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Good, Bad or Ugly - Current and Future styling trends of BMW

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  • tlcmantlcman Posts: 220
    X-3 was a mistake, horrible offroader (due to lack of protection) and bad on road car because of the offroad suspension. HOWEVER, the 7 series was a huge gamble and is starting to pay off, I love the new styling, and off course they are going to tweek the designs, the first time I saw a 6 was driving past teh dealership at night in my 7 and i looked and thought they had an Austin Martin on the lot, but after pulling in to look at it it was the 6! in black, truly an incredible car, took it for a test drive and thought about trading my 7 for it! (but I dont think my insurance would like another 2 door 300+ hp sports coupe in the family) The 5 made me look twice at the rearend, and im not sure what i feel when I see it, but the rest of the car is amazing and the M5 is a truely wonderfull car as tested by Motor trend it sent the Benz back home crying. BMW is always into exlusivity while selling many 3's too keep their market share. They are not for everyone but for the people they are for they are amazing. Oh and about iDrive, its really not that hard once you learn it. yea you have to shuffle through a few pages but its not as hard as everyone is saying, maybe thats just me though.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    you're joking, right?

    The new M5 doesn't even have four piston caliper brakes! what a joke!

    Here is the new M6 in all its shame with lines going all over the place.

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    and here is the new Aston Martin DB9 which has a chassis twice as rigid as the DB7.

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    Here is the DB9 Volante.

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    While their shapes are remotely similar, both being coupes...the Aston-Martin is miles and miles ahead in its rear-end treatment. The BMW is aggressive where the Aston is simply beautifully elegant. The BMW is nice but the Aston is otta here gorgeous.

    The Aston-Martin DB9 is imo the best looking production car in the world today.

    A different behind is in order for the BMW.

    M
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,704
    I'm betting the M5 will stop so quickly, that your dentures will come flying out of your mouth.. I don't car if they use rubber bands and paper clips for brakes, as long as they work correctly...

    This is what happens when you read too many magazines, instead of driving real cars...

    Stats don't make great cars... but, great designers and engineers do..

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  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I agree and BMW has said why they didn't go overboard with pistons on their brakes.

    They stated the tire size and the size of the contact patch of the tire is what determines stopping distance, not the amount of pistons.

    I'm sure too that the M5 will outbrake the E/CLS55 or XJR or any S-series Audi with ease.

    M
  • qromqrom Posts: 1
    Hi all. This is my first time posting. I am new here.

    I think the new 6-series looks good...well, acceptable, anyway. The Aston is a beautiful car, but its design is predictable.

    The rear treatment of the new 6 is not bad and I think BMW should refine it more to make it look like a $70,000 car. As it is now, the rear end looks a bit like that a certain Chrysler car whose name I don't remember.

    I've seen the Aston coupe and it looks much better than the convertible. I've never really cared much for open top cars. Maybe that's why I can't warm up to the 6-series convertible. The 6's drop-top looks too much like something from Detroit.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    Why does Porsche use four piston caliper brakes for many of its cars instead of two pistons caliper brakes?

    The new M5 will just be a rich man's Subaru WRX...fast but it has zero taste and class like the old M5s.

    Since the M5 has side vents but the M6 doesn't, why does the M5 need them?

    The new 5 series looks like a Pontiac.

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  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    the new designs, in this case the 6,7 and z4 might not be conservatively handsome/pretty, but still attractive in some ways. however i still hate the rear ends of the new 3, 5 and z4.
    all the interior designs are real mess, what happened to the good ol cockpit style? at least they can use better plastic at these prices, especially on the x3.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
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    Here is Hartge's modified BMW 6 series. 100 % revolting! Notice the poor panel gaps.

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  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Just wondering...since you appear to hate BMW's why do you bother to post on a BMW message board? Seems kind of pointless no??? I mean, I hate Cadillacs, but I don't go on to that message board. I'm sure anyone good at using Photoshop could make any car look like any other so who really cares?
  • You are just making yourself look like a foolish troll attempting to start a flame war. I'd suggest taking your obviously qualified product development credentials straight to BMW to "fix" them. I'm sure you would inspire their design and engineering teams to hire you on the spot to work your Photoshop mastery. I mean, your obvious talents for thoughtful critique would show them the light according to xkss!

    From an engineering perspective, I believe it would be enlightening for you to share your opinions with the M5 development team... well those engineers responsible for braking systems at a minimum. I'm sure the transcripts from such a session would provide inspired reading to all the folks here.

    BTW, how about offering your design and engineering quals to explain your "knowledgeable" disdain for BMW and the M5 in general?? We need to be impressed when we take in your thoughtful insights.
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    rich545,

    I post here because this is a message forum. I won't stop posting this until BMW makes cars with higher quality than they have now, builds the M5 by hand at the M factory like the first two generations of M5s, stops building suvs, offers a manual transmission for the M5, and...
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    “You are just making yourself look like a foolish troll attempting to start a flame war.”

    Nah. Sounds like just another normal person who is torqued off at the jerky styles and direction coming from BMW.
  • xmf314xmf314 Posts: 154
    I agree. BMW is going through a wacky period.

    I think they will learn their lesson and dump the Bangle design nonsense, greatly simplify the idiotic I-drive, and once again build sensible cars.

    When that happens, I may be in the market for one.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Well, you know what they say about opinions. Anyway, of course you have a right to post here and have your own opinion. I just question what would motivate someone to post about cars they hate rather than cars they like. I'm sure that your postings really mean very little to BWM though in terms of what direction they are going in as a company, but if you feel it's some kind of crusade you're on, by all means, continue. The fact is BMW is no longer the small niche car maker they once were, and they aren't because of the success they have achieved. I ask you this, I have a 2004 545 and it has 9000 miles on it. Now, who has a more qualified opinion on the build quality and overall satisfaction that the car offers? The person who's driven the car for that long or a person that has read about it in a magazine and may have test driven it for about 15 minutes? Like it or not, the true testament of how good a car is is how it's owners feel about it. If you read postings here from people that own the new 5 you'll find that nearly all of them love them.
  • rich545rich545 Posts: 386
    Yep, sure are learning there lesson based on this:

    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/02/01/019432.html
  • 99zero99zero Posts: 3
    BMW sales may be up now, but I don't think they can sustain this in the long run with cartoon bodies on the 5 and 7 series, and the I-drive which forces owners to plow through menus to do simple tasks when they could be paying attention to driving the vehicle.

    As XMF says, BMW is passing through a wacky period.
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Honestly, I can assure that the i-Drive in the new 5 Series is not bad but, in fact, very useful and undisturbing. (I have lived with it for a year now.)

    Jose
  • kyingkying Posts: 61
    I am new in this forum. Here's my 2 cents: I bought a new 2004 530i last May for its look!

    The first time I considered buying a BMW 5 series was in 2001, but I hated the look of the old E39. I love my Audis, but when I saw the new E60 last year, I had to have one. 7000 miles later, I still love it like the day I picked it up from the dealer, and the I-drive is fun too. I must admit, I don't fool around with it when I drive; I preset everything before I get on the road.

    I wonder the people who criticize the I-dirve are the ones who have it, or the ones who just read about it.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Bingo. Right on. The ones that criticize i-drive are the ones that read about it in C&D.
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