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Good, Bad or Ugly - Current and Future styling trends of BMW

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  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    both are nice in their own ways, db9 is conservative while 645 is contemporary
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    I went to the BMW dealer today and sat in a new 645Ci and M3. The M3's interior not only smelled better but also felt more special.
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    true, i agree w/ that, nothing beats the simple and elegant interior of e46 :)
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The E46 is the last good-looking BMW ever made.

    :mad:
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "The E46 is the last good-looking BMW ever made."

    Hmmm, go figure. I loved the look of the E46 when it first came out, and loved the look of my 1999 328i for over three years. By 2002 I thought its looks were beginning to age, so when my lease was up, I didn't replace it with another E46. Now that the new E90 3-Series is out, I have my sights set on a new 330i, which I think is significantly better looking than the E46 it replaced.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    With the exception of the rear, which I think could be more defined the E90 is the best looking 3 ever. Inside and out.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well here it is:

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    Another great BMW design gone imo. While this isn't nearly as bad as the 5 and 7-Series cars were upon their intro, it still isn't the looker the current E46 coupe is. The roofline is the same, but that rear end needs work. The bumper doesn't even seem to fit.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I'm now reading where the above pics are not the real thing. They're good photoshops based on photos of the sedan. What a relief, there is still hope it will look better than these admittedly pretty good photoshops.

    M
  • kyfdx%40Edmundskyfdx%40Edmunds Posts: 25,856
    Really good photoshops...

    I think it needs a little work around the rear wheel-wells... Looks promising.. more aggressive than the sedan..

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Yeah they got me with those. I thought they were real!

    M
  • beamingbeaming Posts: 40
    I've read some of your posts and you seem to know a lot about bmw. Can you explain the numbers to me, i.e. E46, ? The only thing I know is the series number, i.e. 3, 5, 6, 7 X3, x5, Z3, Z4. I just don't know the other letter/number combos?!?!?!! I am new to the world of BMW.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    The "E" numbers are the internal platform designations for the various generations of the various models. Clear as mud?

    For instance, the newly released BMW 3-Series sedan is called the E90, while the sedan that it replaced is called the E46, which replaced the E36 for the 1999 model year. As for the 5-Series, the current model is called the E60 and the model that came before it (prior to 2004) was called the E39.

    I could go on and give you a complete history of the various designations but I think that you get the idea. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • beamingbeaming Posts: 40
    Thanks, it's starting to make sense but let me be sure I understand. Is the current 5-series sedan called E60 regardless of whether it's a 525, 530, or 545? Also, I don't mean to be thick but what do you mean by "internal platform"? And where does "E" come from?
    I know, I know. I'm still at the hand-holding stagae of all of this.... :confuse:
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    The "E" numbers are BMWs internal codes to refer to a specific vehicle platform, so I guess I said it wrong before. Sorry about that. Anyway, the current E60 5-Series is a completely different platform from the ground up than was the previous generation E39 5-Series. The E60 5-Series has been/will be offered with a total of seven engines so far, and the E39 5-Series was offered with a total of seven different engines as well, consider the following:

    E39:
    1997-1998 -- 528i -- 2.8 liter I6 -- 190 hp
    1999-2000 -- 528i -- 2.8 liter I6 -- 193 hp
    2001-2003 -- 525i -- 2.5 liter I6 -- 184 hp
    2001-2003 -- 530i -- 3.0 liter I6 -- 225 hp
    1997-2001 -- 540i -- 4.4 liter V8 -- 282 hp
    2002-2003 -- 540i -- 4.4 liter V8 -- 290 hp
    2000-2003 -- M5 ---- 4.9 liter V8 -- 394 hp

    E60:
    2004-2005 -- 525i -- 2.5 liter I6 -- 184 hp
    2006-2006 -- 525i -- 3.0 liter I6 -- 215 hp (same engine as in the 525xi)
    2004-2005 -- 530i -- 3.0 liter I6 -- 225 hp
    2006-2006 -- 530i -- 3.0 liter I6 -- 255 hp (same engine as in the 530xi)
    2004-2005 -- 540i -- 4.4 liter V8 -- 325 hp
    2006-2006 -- 550i -- 4.8 liter V8 -- 360 hp
    2006-2006 -- M5 --- 5.0 liter V10 -- 507 hp

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • beamingbeaming Posts: 40
    Thank you for the education. :blush:
  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    This is just to underline the influence of Bangle design on other brands. Have you noticed it in the interior of the new M-B S-Series? I rather prefer that of my E60.

    http://www.km77.com/marcas/mercedes/2005/clase-s/gama/med/30.jpg

    Best regards,
    José
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    ive seen the new s-class on papers, lookin too much like a japanese camry (outside, havent seen the interior yet)...ugh...german designs have gone japanese....
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    LOL, because the Japanese have been accused of ripping off BMW styling. Notice the new TL design has the groove that is goes along the line of the door handles. :P
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    The trunk of the new S class is like that of the 1998 Maybach concept.

    1998 Maybach concept

    Check out this ghastly BMW.

    New BMW coming
  • m4d_cowm4d_cow Posts: 1,491
    well the thing is the camry was a 2004 model, and this mercedes isnt even in the dealerships yet...
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