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  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    edited April 2013
    I just bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and Verizon JetPack data service. I am using the Note with Wifi at home and went to the OEM Nav app. It gives a bunch of warnings about trusting it and an acceptance by user. I tried the voice on several places around here and it responded correctly to each voice command. It also had the best routing. I am hoping it will be a valuable tool on our next road trip.

    PS
    The built-in GPS was spot on to the room in the house. Using Google maps.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    I'm ambi-mouserous. :)

    Glad to see (I think) MB and Garmin hooking up. Hopefully that'll mean more and cheaper updates for built-in navigation systems and cheaper upfront costs too.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Cool tablet, congrats.

    I kinda want a Galaxy Note 3 as a phone. Fits in my pocket but near-tablet sized screen.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think it's a win-win tie up. M-B has some of the best screens, Garmin has the simplest interface (an area where M-B could improve).

    Garmin gets map updates quarterly, too. Can't beat that.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    Yeah, but mine are free "lifetime" map updates. Doubt that updates will be free in-dash. Would be nice though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Maybe for the warranty period. Maybe.

    Will there be an SD slot for updates? Or maybe via the car's telematics, though map database are HUGE so that would eat up your whole data allowance.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    edited April 2013
    Oh, good point about eating up the data bandwidth. But I can just imagine the posts now for the alternative - my kid stuck a nickel in the SD slot. :shades:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    edited April 2013
    Or a harder in-car nav screen surface - most seem kind of porous, and difficult to clean.

    MB Comand will give you a list to scroll once you input a couple letters. Not as easy as direct entry, but you don't have to use the mouse/wheel to enter an entire destination. I usually know where I am going anyway, so accuracy and image quality trumps that for me. The car also has an SD slot, so an update like you mention would be possible, in theory.

    I have yet to see a voice control unit that is really accurate, especially with more than a few words spoken.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I wonder if the issue is glare? So they have to be matte, so there's no reflection in the car. The iPad has a lot of glare.

    Yeah, most GPS use predictive text, and that helps, until you have many streets with similar names.

    The tech is evolving very fast, you have to wonder what we'll see 5 years or so from now. I'm holding out for teleportation. :shades:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    Or really good 3D maps, anyway. And more integrated screens.

    Glare is no doubt an issue.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Audi probably leads in that regard, but honestly I wonder if it's a case of TMI - too much information?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,914
    I don't like their popup screens. But I remember the detail is good.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    I was hoping the Note 8.0 would be out by the time I go on a trip. I think this will work good for whichever of us is navigating. Using the Verizon Jetpack you can have up to 10 computers at a time. Probably won't need but the one. The Costco package I got is $50 per month for 5 gb of data. Hopefully that will be enough. The Jet pack & $35 hookup was free. The GPS is way faster than the Magellan getting on to the sats. The turn by turn voice is very pleasant. And the voice recognition seems very good. I will give a report when we are out on the road.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    edited April 2013
    I've been keeping track this year with BitMeter OS. Ony used .500 MB today; usually I'm around a gig a day. That's net radio and surfing, but rarely look at any video or download files. Still hard for me to justify the hotspot gizmos although the one month no commitment AT&T plans for iPads could work. Verizon has the best coverage though.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    the one month no commitment AT&T plans for iPads could work. Verizon has the best coverage though.

    There are some resellers offering month to month unlimited data. The fine print is they slow you way down at some point. And I don't know if any are available on the Verizon 4G LTE network. Can you buy an unlocked iPad and get M2M from Verizon from another seller? Verizon wants about $460 for the iPad mini with only 16GB. If you get max memory it jumps to $660. The full blown iPad full size with Retina is right at a grand.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    edited April 2013
    Crazy prices eh? Don't know enough to speculate on jailbreaking or plans. Republic is attractive but you can't hotspot it. Mr. Money Moustache has a pretty good recent summary of options; he's testing Airvoice.

    Only thing worse are the 2 year locked in subscriptions.

    Well, actually one thing worse is having to pay your dealer $350 for some updated maps and POIs for your in-dash nav, especially when the update is out of date. :sick:
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    Toyota sent me an offer of $450 for the last update done on my model of NAV. It was dated 2009. The one that came with my 2007 Sequoia is dated 2005. Just looking at the Toyota website I see they are offering a 2012 updated DVD for my Sequoia discounted to $162. I may do that as the one I have is nearly useless.

    Only thing worse are the 2 year locked in subscriptions.

    I agree and am having second thoughts on the one I signed. I have 14 days to get out without being tied up for life. Verizon will not sell month to month with the Jetpack type service. And now they are charging $50 for 4 GB. My Costco plan is $50 for 5GB per month. $1200 for two years of go anywhere Internet. Is it worth it? I don't think so. $2400 for 2 years of smartphone access is twice as silly. Americans have too much money.
  • gagricegagrice San DiegoPosts: 28,679
    That is a good article on MNVOs. I think it is time to switch my wife's AT&T phone to a prepaid service. She does not use it enough to justify the SR rate of $29.95 plus a bunch of taxes.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    edited April 2013
    We just have a flip phone and prepaid service with Page Plus. $10 every three months and the minutes never expire, so long as you recharge the minutes quarterly.

    Got good use out of it a couple of days ago calling for a tow when the minivan died on us, but it's pretty limited for anything other than calls or texts.

    I can usually find wifi except when we camp in those primitive campgrounds we like. But you usually can't get cell service in those spots either so a hotspot wouldn't help.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I remember the maps on my very first Garmin were nearly useless. There was a dramatic improvement around 2008 or so. I think they were v6, v7, then switched to the year at that point, v2008.

    Now it's quarterly, so v2012.30 would be Q3 of 2012, though they come out a bit earlier than that.

    Back in 2005 the maps were awful.
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