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Nissan and Toyota's luxury brands (Infiniti and Lexus) on the other hand typically treat their customers like gold.
My thinking is maybe you could expect the same when you buy a Saab branded Impreza? I have no idea where Saab ranks as far as how their dealerships treat their customers. One would hope, considering the cost of entry to obtain a Saab, they would be up there however I will admit I haven't done much research into this.
For some this may not be an issue but for many others (like myself) it would be.
Other than that though, I must say, I saw the picture of the Saab 9-2X and thought "Okay it's my car up until the front fender . . ." They did some to the styling to make it look nicer and more upscale but they should've done a bit more . . . Subaru did a good job making the interior look nicer however. The Forester dash kit fit in very well. ;-)
It's a first attempt though and not a bad one in my opinion as it does look more upscale than a Subaru branded Impreza. I would say that if Saab offers a longer warranty on the car than Subaru does (which they appear to) AND if Saab dealerships do in fact treat their customers about as well as Infiniti does (A great warranty means nothing if the manufacturer refuses to stand behind the vehicle after all) I would definitely give this version of the Impreza some consideration over the Subaru version.
longer warranty
free maintainance
better customer service
more upscale manufacturer image (important to some)
upscale interior
better sculpted front fascia
Subaru trumps:
much lower entry price
the "original"
no "Snaab" appeal
Japanese quality/reputation
Even if the Saab has all the same mechanics...I know lots of folks who would never buy a Saab based on horror stories about high part costs and poor reliability. I think the stories are a bit overblown in many cases, but I do have my own tragic "Sob" story: $6,000 in repairs and another $2,500 to go for a car with 57k miles in under 2 years of ownership is not a way to endear customers to a long-term ownership strategy. My lemon was one of the unlucky ones, for sure...but once-bitten, twice shy. Sad too, since I have always loved Saabs, the way they drive, the way they look, the interior designs (fighter jet cockpit anyone?), the personality, the exclusivity...it was all possitives for me, but that $9,000 turn around in a short 18 months on my used Saab always turned my fingers cold when I would start thinking about buying another one.
A "Saab" WRX would be an interesting option for me. I like the way the WRX drives, but am not as fond of the interior, the styling, or the Subaru image (which is improving, but still a bit down market)...
I don't buy purely on image, but for $25k, I want to feel good about my car in every way, not just when I am in the driver's seat ripping onto the highways...Most of my miles are driven under 40 mph, so I do want a car that looks good, has a nice stereo, and can get out of its own way.
Saab 9-2X...I am intrigued.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
There will be a learning curve.
Heck, those mechanics will have to service GM trucks, too! Forget about specialization, they'll need to learn just about everything.
-juice
I know there are aftermarket offerings to get these items on the Scoob, but it's so much easier to get them factory.
Saab dealers tend to do a lot more coddling, too.
Subaru has always sold the WRX to boy-racers, I like 'em a little more comfy. But still fast, in a bmw, or lexus, or old-saab kind of way.
-juice
9-2?
http://194.18.30.201/92x/
-juice
At 28K what does it compete with:
Audi A4 Avant - Way more than 28K
BMW 325ix Wagon - Way more than 28K
Jag X Type - More than 28K
Infiniti G35 - Way more than 28K
MB - C230/C320 4matic - Way more than 28K
Subaru WRX - Fully optioned + dealer mods 28K
Volvo S50 - More than 28K
VW Passat Wagon - More than 28K
They should have made the Aero standard with two-tone leather and OnStar to make it truly upscale. I think it will sell well regardless.
The V50 pricing has yet to be announced. But it probably won't be much more than the S40.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The Volvo wagon is named V50, you probably just made a typo, I'm sure you knew that. It was at NAIAS also.
The S40 was open, so I sat inside, the back seat is tiny, felt smaller than the WRX. I was in the back seat and the guy in front used the power seats to slide back and I actually got stuck! Had to wiggle my shoe out from behind the seat.
Headroom was also lacking, my head rubbed big time.
The V50 was locked and closed, but it looked much better in terms of headroom. Cargo space is more than the WRX also, but I'd rather sit in the back seat of a WRX or Saab 9-2x.
-juice
In the UK the Impreza Turbo has a large cult following and the prices are comparatively higher than they are in the states, placing the WRX smack dab in the same price range as the Saab 9-3. The fact that the 9-2x would need to be priced lower than the 9-3, and thus lower than it's corporate cousin the WRX, could make Subaru very upset. It would be bad business to have a more "premium" brand name selling a copy of your most known model at a lower price.
-juice
The sales rep said the Linear would start around 20K and the Aero around 25 - He thought a loaded Aero would go for around 27-28K. At that price I would seriously consider the 9-2x. I would never consider it a Saab, I would just think of it as a really nice WRX wagon.
Bob
Looked good like at NAIAS. Could not get in that or the Volvo V50.
Did get in the Volvo S40 and it is *cramped* back there. No leg room at all, in fact I got stuck when some guy in the front seat powered his seat back, my shoe got stuck!
The WRX sedan is roomier. But the V50 does seem to have better space than the S40. I think the V50 will have more cargo room than the 9-2x but less passenger room.
-juice
The 9-2x is really more of a hatchback than a wagon.
-juice
Guess it'll slot in right below the A4 1.8T and V50.
-juice
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
-juice
LOL no joke!
I wouldn't quite call it mini. Maybe Premium Compact Sport class. Or if that's too long then just Premium Compact. Less of an oxymoron.