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  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Regarding your comment that BMW knows how to fit tall drivers:

    I am 6'2"- mostly legs. I practically got laughed off the Luxury Lounge thread by the active anti-BMW faction there when I posted that I test drove the 2008 328i sedan and the 2008 EX-L Accord sedan and discovered to my surprise that even though the Accord was supposed to offer more driver's seat leg room, I found the 328i MUCH roomier for my legs with quite a bit more seat travel in the 328i.

    BMW always knows how to accommodate folks like us.

    I have also tried Acura, Infiniti and Lexus vehicles. Only the BMW's fit me like a glove.

    This week I have to go try a 128i coupe. My 545i lease is up in July.
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    I went to the Denver Auto Show over the weekend and sat in a 135i. I'm 5'11" with a 30" inseam on my pants, but normally I have to have the seat all the way back in its travel to be comfortable.

    The power seats in the car I sat in were working, so I moved the seat all the way back. Found, to my surprise, that I had to bring it forward in order to reach the pedals.

    Nice!
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    With a 30 inch inseam you need seats all the way back? I have a 30 inch inseam (I'm 5-7). Sounds like you're sitting too far away from the pedals. With the clutch depressed to the floor your knee should still be bent. If you leg is straight with a clutch or brake depressed to the floor you're too far away from the pedals and you're liable to break your leg in a head-on collision.

    http://www.turnfast.com/tech_driving/driving_seating.shtml
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    I don't currently drive a stick shift ... my daily driver is a Saturn L-series, and the wife has a Saturn VUE.

    The last time I drove a stick shift regularly was in a Ford Focus, and I didn't need the seat all the way back for that in order to have my left leg at a comfortable angle when the clutch was fully depressed.

    My point was that there is more room in the front seat of the 1-series than I would have thought, given the overall size of the car.
  • amybangamybang Posts: 1
    I've test driven a few 128s now. It's rapidly becoming a matter of "when", not "if" for me. I did a "lifestyle" test yesterday and brought along my roll-aboard suitcase and my iPod to see whether it really works for me. With the top down, my suitcase went in and out better than in an overhead bin on the plane, and I could probably fit a 2nd one in there. And the iPod was fully accessible through the radio, all my play lists and everything.

    I did the same tests with the A4 convertible and the EOS yesterday. The iPod interface is laughable on both of those, actually maddening. Sure, they'll play your iPod, but you really can't control what it plays, because it doesn't show you track titles or playlists. With 6000+ songs on my iPod, I'd have been royally pissed had I bought either of those and paid for the iPod connector without trying it.

    As for storage, the A4 could handle the suitcase with the top down. I could get the suitcase in the EOS with the top up, and it fits with the top down, but I couldn't get it in or out that way.

    And those practical matters aside, the 128 just has me grinning like a fool when I drive it. The others haven't done that.
  • Am a lifelong BMW owner, took a test drive -- honey, they shrunk the 3 series. What a great, sophisticated, heavy, reasonably priced little car... but somebody forgot to laugh when the set the thing up. It's dull.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,689
    The only people that believe that "2002" nonsense are the PR folks who came up with it.

    Its a heavier E30.

    What I mean is, the interior volume seems almost an exact match of my wife's E30, while the vehicle has gained weight, mostly due to increased crash protection measures since 1987.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,689
    I am 6'2"- mostly legs. I practically got laughed off the Luxury Lounge thread by the active anti-BMW faction there when I posted that I test drove the 2008 328i sedan and the 2008 EX-L Accord sedan and discovered to my surprise that even though the Accord was supposed to offer more driver's seat leg room, I found the 328i MUCH roomier for my legs with quite a bit more seat travel in the 328i.

    Well, you are not alone. I currently drive an Accord EX-L. Although mine is an '06. Even the 1-series offers me a better seating position and more legroom. I have the Accord set almost to its extreme limits. The front of the seat is completey up, the back completely down, and the travel is roughly 1/4" from the furthest setting. When I sat in the 1-series, i had at least 1" further to go back in travel, while still having the front fully up and back fully down. And, on top of that, the steering wheel falls easier to hand in the 1 with the above setting. My arms are more stretched out in my Accord.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,754
    Its a heavier E30.

    I agree, a friend of mine owns an E30 convertible and the 128i 'vert is nearly the same size, inside and out.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Hmmm---since we're discussing "fitting" i'm 5'11 and have a 30' inseam, and the headroom on the 1 coupe is just barely marginal. My hair brushes the roof--i sit very vertically. The convertible has more headroom ( yes, with the top up. ;) )
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 8,005
    While BMWs highly paid marketing folks are comparing the 1 series to the 2002, most of us are in agreement that it isn't. I know a few are comparing the 1er to the E30. My favorite BMWs, the car that started my complete infatuation with the marquee, the E36 coupe stacks up against the 1 series. Comparing a 135i to a 328is gives you this to chew on: The 135i is 1.5" wider, 2.8" shorter, 231 lbs heavier, and has a 1.6" shorter wheelbase than an E36 328is.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • leeshuckleeshuck Posts: 73
    I drove a 135i and 128i with auto trans recently. There seems to be a hesitation off idle. I'm used to driving a 6-speed manual, so maybe I could adjust my throttle tip in. I don't recall this hesitation in the 335i with auto though.

    I've been trying to find an auto I like - so far the DSG that Audi offers seems to have the best shifting performance.

    The exterior styling that may grow on me, but they're definitely not beautiful at first sight.

    I'm driving a MINI Cooper S JCW GP now and was surprised at how compliant the ride in the 135i is with the low profile run flats.

    The door handle comes out far enough to hit my knee if I don't keep my legs straight (seems more cramped than the MINI).

    Maybe I'll revisit them in a few months with the 6 speed manual; I didn't find either to be compelling enough to make we want to buy now.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Well, for what it's worth, I'm 6'1", and 215lbs. I took delivery a couple of weeks ago of a new 135i coupe. The seat has so many adjustments and the steering telescopes as well as tilts. Getting comfy in the 1er's driver's seat is easy enough, and will accommodate most of us very well.

    BTW, the 135i is absolutely fantastic! My Porsche is parked for a while! ;)

    TagMan
  • leeshuckleeshuck Posts: 73
    Did you get the auto or manual trans? If auto, how do you like it?
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Manual. And it is a smooth shifter.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I'm just wondering who on this thread owns a 1-Series vehicle at this point. Or do any of you have one on order perhaps? Or are some of you just interested in the vehicle?

    Let's share this info with each other, and then let's start talking about the car!!
    It's an awesome vehicle! :)

    Mine is an '08 Jet Black 135i, 6-speed, fairly loaded.

    TM
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, in that case. :shades:

    Coupe or convertible?
  • dad23dad23 Posts: 430
    How about some pictures??? :)
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Thanks!

    Coupe. I actually had both on order, but in the end I chose the coupe because I already own a convertible and the rear seat room (which is already on the tight side) is quite a bit better in the coupe. Plus it is quieter and just a wee bit faster. But, that said, the 1er makes for a gorgeous convertible, IMO.

    TM
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Another forum I visit frequently asked the same thing, and I offered to take some pics later in the Spring when I buy a camera. For now, I am ashamed to admit I only have my mobile. Sadly, I have only taken one picture. I will post it since you ask, but please don't nail me for the poor quality. I'll post more in the future, as I promised.

    image

    TM
  • leeshuckleeshuck Posts: 73
    I'm just interested at this point. My dealer didn't have a manual trans to drive, and as I reported in an earlier post, I wasn't sure about the auto. My last bimmer was a 2004 M3 Convertible which was a great car.

    How much did you pay for yours - purchase or lease?

    I'd probably want to lease and will wait for a more favorable lease rate before doing that.

    Lee
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Absolutely gorgeous. No apologies necessary. Congrats!
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Purchase. Near msrp, as it was their very first 1-Series ordered and delivered, and the only manual tranny out of their entire first shipment. To offset the near msrp price, which dealership management insisted upon, the sales agent cooperated with me to increase the trade-in value. So, overall, I was very pleased.

    I agree with you that a lease might not be favorable at this time.

    Your '04 M3 Cabrio sounds very nice!

    TM
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,754
    I saw a black 135i Coupe like yours at a dealership and decided Black is the color to get for the coupe, gives it a sleek, purposeful look. For some reason the preferred color at 1addicts.com is Alpine White which IMO makes it looks like a toaster.

    I'm thinking Montego Blue, Monaco Blue or Crimson Red for a 'Vert.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    I have noticed the AW preference over there, but I doubt that it will ultimately reflect the real-life situation.

    I agree with your 'vert color choices. A 'vert usually needs to be a little sportier. I had ordered the "vert (that I didn't take) in Crimson Red, but at this point I also tend to think the Montego Blue would be awesome! Which interior and trim are you thinking to go with that?

    TM
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Thanks Brian!! :)
    TM
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,754
    Which interior and trim are you thinking to go with that?

    Funny you should ask, I think I'd get Tan or Black with the Red but I might get the black/red combo. The bmwusa's configurator doesn't show any tan available but I know I've seen photos of it.

    With either Blue I'm thinking of the black/red interior but I liked the Lemon/black combo I saw which (surprised me cuz it doesn't show in the online configurator.)

    BMW's color names are very misleading, what they call Lemon is really a very light beige, more the color of a lemon ice (Slushee for you NEers) than an actual lemon.
    What they call Tahitian Green is Blue/green or Teal and Cashmere Silver isn't silver, it's Champagne (very light tan metallic). :confuse:

    What color is yours inside?

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Mine is Black w/ black Boston Leather. It's really not as dark and evil as it sounds. It's more of a dark charcoal with the aluminum trim and the headliner is sort of a cozy shade of silver/gray which further brightens up the interior. The nice thing about it I like is that the dash components are all the same/similar colors.

    That's one nice thing about the Savannah Beige interior. It's a beautiful beige that is applied to the seat insert and door insert. That leaves the dash and center stack as one solid color black, which is what I prefer. It's not necessarily on the configurator, but is available from the dealer when ordering... at least it was when I placed my order. In hind sight, I might have ordered that Sanannah Beige interior, but at the time I ordered the car, it wasn't explained to me that it was just the seats and door inserts... there wasn't enough information available yet to know for sure. But, regardless, I'm very pleased with the outcome and have no regrets.

    TM
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,754
    Savannah Beige is another confusing name IMO. Isn't that more like a tan? A tan/black combo would be really cool w red.

    Yet another misnomer is what they call "Taupe" Leather is what most people would call light grey. Where I came from Taupe is a mix of grey and brown. ;)

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    The website colors can be very confusing... both exterior and interior. And, of course, they can't display on a monitor accurately. But some of the colors are way off to begin with. When I saw Sedona Red in person at the car show, I was shocked at how different (and horrible, IMO) it looked in person. And, for some reason, the configurator isn't complete. Also, as you pointed out, the names of the colors don't always really associate well with the actual colors.

    I agree the tan/black combo would be terrific with red. It might also work well with the Montego Blue.

    TM
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