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BMW 1-Series

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  • mr42hhmr42hh Posts: 9
    Thanks :)
    When I test drove a 120d while trying to find out if I'd like a bit more power than the 118, it was a coupe. My girlfriend said it looked like an old peoples' car, she loves the hatchback though.
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    The coupe wouldn't be very useful, because I have to travel with lots of tools and parts boxes. Any gas engine would be downright impossible economically.
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  • jlbljlbl Posts: 1,333
    Congrats for your new car.

    Last winter my wife and I drove along two weeks a diesel 118d on a 1,500-mile tour from the Pyrenees to the Alps and back. The car behaved fantastically, even being as she was full loaded (back seats folded) with heavy luggage. On snow, she was even more efficient than some SUV riding ahead of us :) —or was it that the other driver was unable to manage the SUV?

    And the consume was really frugal ;) .

    Enjoy the black little greyhound!

    Regards,
    Jose
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Beautiful car indeed! I'm envious of the fuel-economy and practicality.

    TM
  • podpod Posts: 176
    I have yet to see a 1 series BMW on the road. I live in RI and travel on interstate 95 often. None in the malls, none on 95, none anywhere.
    Has the series been successful in meeting its projections? I think it is a very appealing package but I am single and have had a few BMWs in the past and liked them (although they were expensive to maintain--now not a consideration for the first years). I tend to keep my cars for at least 8 years.

    I would like to hear from some knowledgeable person that sales are going along as planned if that is the case.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Through June BMW has sold 6000+ 1 series cars. They aimed to sell 10k 1 series car in 2008. Everybody believes they will hit that easily. 6 more months of 2008 and no hint that things are slowing for the 1.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    I had a chance to drive a 135 convertible a few days ago. What a fantastic little car. Goes like a shot, comfortable, excellent handling. Best way to describe it is like a slightly less edgy and more comfortable e46 m3.

    *really* want one now. ;)
  • jrynnjrynn Posts: 162
    1-Series sales in the US were 6101 through June 30 according to the company's news releases.

    But it's worth noting that 3-series sales at @60,000 YTD are down 13% from 2007 and BMW's overall passenger CAR sales are down @8%. YTD. (And that doesn't factor in the nearly 20% drop in SAV (X3/X5) sales).

    I wouldn't assume that your dealer is feeling like (s)he's holding all the cards in negotiations just because the 1 is new and "hot" Your dealer still has to move metal to pay the rent/utilities.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    right here on edmunds. They give the 128i a great review.

    Full Test BMW 128i

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    I drove a 128i ragtop w/slushbox during Drive for the Cure.It didn't feel all that slow, although I would have to have a stick if I were to own one. The deal-breaker for me is the cramped rear seat. I might as well buy an M Coupe or a CPO Cayman.
    OT: The vehicle that really surprised me was the X6 35i- it was very quick and handled much better than such a big and heavy truck has a right to. Pointless but fun.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,438
    I might as well buy an M Coupe or a CPO Cayman.

    ??
    But then you could get a 128i coupe for only $30k.
    If you find a CPO Cayman for $30k, please let me know. I think I may be able to talk the wife into that one.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    I test drove a 128i with the Steptronic a few months ago. Nice package, but, like roadburner, I'd get the stick shift as well.

    If I kept the options to a minimum, I think a new one would retail for $30-32K. When the time comes for me - in a few years - to get a new ride, perhaps a CPO might fit the bill at, hopefully, $20-23K.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    I'm not so concerned about the price point as I am the lack of a comfortable rear seat. If I'm considering a car with only an "occasional" rear seat I might as well expand my search two some track-worthy two seaters.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    I've driven bothe iterations of the E90 (328 & 335) Xi with slushboxes. I'm not going to bore everyone again by gushing over the bottomless power (especially compared to my '01 Prelude's 156 lb -ft of torque @ 5250 RPM) of the 335xi. I have a good time whenever I get to drive my Mom's 328xiA. I'd definitely take a 128i with a stick. It'd be a tossup between a 128i & a MINI Cooper S.

    BTW, my Prelude hit 100,000 miles last week! :P

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  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    My kids fit in back during my 128i test drive recently.

    When I compared that to the 135i I tested 1 month later, I was astounded. That car makes my 330xi feel like a lead sled!

    Regards,
    OW
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    It'd be a tossup between a 128i & a MINI Cooper S.

    Funny, I sometimes have the same thought, though I'm partial to the Mini Clubman. Which, of course, the wife absolutely hates.

    Rear seat space isn't that important to me, as I'm usually alone or with the wife. We have her car if there are more than 2 of us.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,438
    I'm getting confused.

    So then why not the 135i?
    Or do you figure a used M coupe is still better?
    A Cayman doesn't have a back seat at all.
    And I'm assuming you mean an M3 coupe. If the Z4M, that doesn't have a back seat, either.

    personally, I think a 335 is a better buy than a used M3.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,579
    Or do you figure a used M coupe is still better?

    Yep.

    Cayman doesn't have a back seat at all.
    And I'm assuming you mean an M3 coupe. If the Z4M, that doesn't have a back seat, either.


    My point is that I might as well have a car with no back seat as opposed to one with a cramped back seat.

    personally, I think a 335 is a better buy than a used M3

    To each his own. In my opinion the E46 M3 provides a much more visceral driving experience. And the jury is still out regarding the longevity of the N54- especially when subjected to frequent HPDE use.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    I'll take an "occassional" backseat over no backseat, as long as styling doesn't suffer.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    My daily driver (and occasional family hauler) is my beloved 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH. To say the back seat of my car is small is an understatement. I've got a BRITAX MARATHON forward facing car seat belted in on the passenger side rear. I've even managed to transport a few people in the back seat for short distances. I feel like if you have younger kids the back seat room is not too much of an issue.

    The MINI or the 1 series should have back seat room that exceeds my Prelude's.

    I don't like the rear doors on the MINI CLUBMAN with the big split down the middle.

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Actually, you barely notice the split. And one big advantage of the clubman's rear door - no b pillar blocking access to the babyseat.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,243
    It's not the split that bothers me... IMO, it actually looks better from the passenger side...

    It's the driver's side view that I don't like... that big long expanse of body between the wheels... too out of proportion..

    Just my $0.02,
    kyfdx

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Yeah, a 2nd door on the driver's side would have been a better option than that odd long window...
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,438
    My point is that I might as well have a car with no back seat as opposed to one with a cramped back seat.

    Well, hell, if you are not in need of a backseat, then the 1-series is not the car for you. I totally agree, there are others out there I would choose first. But then those aren't really up for comparison to the 1. Only those with a backseat.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Well, hell, if you are not in need of a backseat, then the 1-series is not the car for you. I totally agree, there are others out there I would choose first. But then those aren't really up for comparison to the 1. Only those with a backseat.

    If I didn't need the backseat, I'd still have chosen the 1er. It's simply a terrific package. But I do indeed use the back seat. It's definately useful and with just the right tweak between front and rear, it becomes very quite functional and passenger-friendly. It's so freakin' simple to move the front seats forward just a bit... still keeping the front passengers quite comfy, and yet at the same time providing the rear pasengers with adequate legroom for short to moderate trips.

    I've done it a number of times already, and everyone says they are quite comfortable, but, of course they wouldn't want to be in the back seat for hours. And, that really is the truth about the back seats. They are absolutely adequate with the right amount of tweak. They are a terrific bonus, to a great car that I would still have purchased anyway!! I love the stellar performance and fun factor of the 135i, and my occassional rear passengers get to enjoy it also!!... especially with the top down. :shades:

    Perfect, for me.

    Now, OTOH, my Porsche 911's rear seats are truly pitiful, by comparison.

    TM
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,663
    I was talking about the 2 rear doors in back of the MINI Clubman, not the suicide door on the side.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 29,243
    Ahhh... I like the look of that... but, not the practicality..

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    "...but, not the practicality.."

    They are easier to close, though, than the hatch.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    To each his own. I find them less functional, heavier and a big styling nuisance. It'd be nice if Mini allowed for a hatch option on the clubby.

    What's with the weird 1 v. Clubby comparo? Then they only compared driving. Day to day living, the Clubman for anyone with a baby the Club would be the choice. Even runs to the store and such the Club offers space the 1 cannot match. I have placed 9 boxes in my little Cooper. A clubman could probably fit at least 3 or 4 more.

    The 1's a better driver's car but until BMW sells the right 1 series here (5 door hatch) the 1's not gonna be my first choice.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,380
    Hi BGDC! What about the tii? Wasn't that coming to US soon in 1 - 2 years?

    That would be a nice ride for you!

    Regards,
    OW
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    I really want a 4 or 5 door. While I settle for a 1 coupe in a few years, the 4 or 5 door would be ideal.

    The other day I parked by an e30 and just sighed looking at it. So perfectly proportioned. That car, with 2008 tech = heaven.
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