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BMW 1-Series

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  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Hpowders, your 5er wasn't so loved when it first came out! No one was waiting months to pay full price.

    So, stay real for goodness sake.

    TM
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,245
    I understand your disappointment. Really. The 335i SP 'verte is for you!

    Until the CS becomes a reality!

    Regards,
    OW

    P.S. Such an eye for beauty can not be put asunder!
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Is it not true that people are paying full price for the 1 because BMW is using the same strategy it used (and is still using) for the MINI --- by restricting supply?
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Sounds good! ;)
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Well, before I began posting here recently, creating this nice spurt of lively posts, this thread was how shall I say.... becoming extinct.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Sorry for this digression good people, but I must answer TM's post.

    You are right. The new 5'er when it came out in 2004,was almost universally loathed-people did not know what to make of its bold, new, aggressive and sexy styling. Surely, a radical change from "same old" conservative BMW. Since the introduction, people have gradually come to their senses and come to terms with the new design and consequently sales/leases of the new Bangle 5 have been healthy. The 5 must have had an external refresh lately, because the 2008's seem a bit more stylish than the 2004 version, if indeed that is actually possible.

    As for people waiting months to pay MSRP for the 1 Series and not for the Bangle 5 Series: It is you who must "stay real"!
    BMW wasn't deliberately limiting supply of the 5 series back in 2004 as it is currently with the 1. If they wanted to, BMW could limit supply on the 3 and the 5 and command close to M$RP.

    Don't you think lines would be forming to pay M$RP for the 335i Coupe if BMW deliberately made it scarce here?
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    Yes, I think this thread has recently gotten active due to you, in part. Go back to the beginning and see the injection from yours truly... LOL.

    As far as limiting supply goes, I can't say with any factual certainty that the same thing would happen with the other models. Maybe so.

    We do know for a fact, however, that the 1-Series, which is what this thread is about, is a great performing fun car that is widely accepted and praised by the vast majority of enthusiasts and critics.

    TM
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,245
    ...and it's prettier than the 5'er!

    Regards,
    OW
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    "...and its prettier than the 5'er!"

    Aside from my wife's not being permitted to use incomparable sugar from Cuban cane fields in her rum cake, nothing wounds me more! :cry:
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Yes. When the thread opened, you and some others had a healthy dialog on the 1.

    Soon the posts began to dwindle to a lull, as the initial euphoria died down when the realization set in that the 1 could have been so much better; that it didn't live up to the hype that it would be a re-incarnation of the BMW 2002; that it was actually closer to the revered 3 Series (which isn't a bad thing) and that waiting lists were being artificially perpetrated by BMW through limiting supply of the 1 Series to the US.

    To lift this dying thread out of its funk, your writer, by placing the 1 Series in its proper context minus the exaggerated hype, has instigated active discussion again.

    Remember folks, that any BMW is superior in driving performance to its competition. No manufacturer has created a 3 or a 5 killer. They won't be able to create a 1 killer either. When I criticize the 1, it is because I believe it could have been so much better. Even so, I admit the 135i Coupe is an exhilarating drive.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,245
    Just kidding. The 5'er is real nice. Handles extremely well for it's category. It's the choice for coast to coast travel in high comfort and style!

    Regards,
    OW
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,245
    Now you're talkin'! Look for the tii. It will get better.

    Regards,
    OW
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    "The 5'er is real nice."

    It must have had a styling refresh recently. I could see some folks not liking the original Bangle 5, but the recent versions are really quite a bit nicer looking; stunning in gray.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    BMW should maintain decent supply on the 1.

    BMWCCA should be allowed to coordinate for BMW 1 buyers/leasers, a $500 rebate from BMWNA.

    When one considers the ability to bargain down from M$RP for the 335i Coupe plus getting the $500 rebate, the differential between 135i and 335i isn't that much. I figure $3000-$3500.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I was at one of my favorite places to view upscale vehicles yesterday-the Tampa airport indoor short-term parking garage. I drove through many aisles-lot's of BMW's-3's, a couple of M3's and 5's, an Infiniti M 45; various Lexus' and MB's. No BMW 1's yet. Haven't seen any on the road yet either. Scarce.

    On the way to the airport, a 2008 Honda Accord EX V6 kept tailing me. I was going 85-86 mph. I finally "helped" create an opening for him and let him think he got by me on his own. He's probably posting over on the Accord forum about how he absolutely "smoked" a 545i on the highway. :)
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    LOL... You sly dog. I understand

    Yes, there are a few proud drivers out there that also think they have edged out the mighty Carrera S... at least until the next one they meet, which might very well be less generous and shatter their misplaced euphoria! ;)

    However, the lowly entry-level 135i might send a few inflated egos on their way with their tail between their legs... Hopefully with a passenger in their car to make their humiliation even worse.

    TM
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    About 5k have been sold so far. They aren't like the ubiquitous 3 series (which is given away with your 5th latte at Starbucks). Or even the more mass-produced Mini (40k units a year).

    How many of the new bodied TTs do you see in a day? I've seen 2 of the latest TTs. I've seen about 10 1s on the road. But again, BMWs are so common in So Cal one would think they come with insanely propped up leases. Oh wait, they do.
  • tagmantagman Malibu, CaliforniaPosts: 8,441
    LOL. True, to a point.

    But, no artificial lease on the 1er!... Yet.

    TM
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    If I ever see you coming down the interstate in your 911, I would politely move over out of respect.

    By the way, since you are fortunate enough to possess both, which vehicle provides more visceral thrills: the 135i or the 911? ( A good question I guess if you are applying to be a diplomat).

    LOL!! I had no passenger with me when I let the Accord go by me, so I didn't have any "'splainin' " to do. I've had enough close encounters this year with the authorities, to have wizened up and not get into a 90 mph speed war on the interstate. Anybody driving the highway with any car knowledge at all should be aware of what the 545i is capable of. Yet every day I'm out there, I get challenged. Reminds me of those old western movies where the young gunslingers just have to come from far and wide to challenge the famous, experienced sharpshooter. The cemetery becomes full of them.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,245
    I sat in a 2008 M5 and the quality is first rate. I never drove one but how could it not be extremely competent and satisfying. The M3 impressed me the same.

    I look forward to the tii....

    Regards,
    OW
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