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  • The X3 until 2006 MY was sometimes criticized for being a bit crude, a bit down market, bla bla bla.

    The 2006 is dressed somewhat better for success, with the painted bumpers, etc.

    The dashboard material seems fine, but it looks less expensive than the dash in the X5.

    Now, having said all this, and saying that we did end up with a 2005 X3 3.0 in black gloss (which effectively hides the fact that the bumpers are unpainted), that we believe is handsome and configured as we have ours, is dressed for success both inside and out.

    Every one of the cars that are ON THE LOT are usually not very well equipped and they are not as satisfying as they can be made to be:

    We did the following:

    X3 3.0 (the manual transmission is THE ONLY one to get, the steptronic is old technology and is only a 5 speed -- performance and mileage will suffer)

    Jet Black Gloss exterior w/Terracotta Montana Leather Sport Seats

    Cold Weather

    Premium Sound system
    BiXenon headlights
    Satellite Radio (Sirius)
    Satellite Navigation
    Built in (in the armrest) BMW Sony T637 Bluetooth phone
    Servotronic (A MUST HAVE and $250.00)
    BMW Brake dust shields
    F+R Parktronic, Tirepressure monitoring system

    The bottom line MSRP ~ $47,000. No money down, $581 mo lease @15K miles per year for 3 years.

    The car is quiet, comfortable, sporty, has a decent sound system and the nav system and bluetooth work great.

    It could not be had with a heated steering wheel as configured and oddly BMW doesn't offer rear heated seats. The sunroof is very large and with the servotronic and sport package the car handles, well, like a car.

    With the 6spd manual and the 3.0 engine, it is adequately+ powered, with the automatic, the thing is a slug relegated to that "transmission hunting" behavior so reminiscent of the Oldsmobile Bravada 4 speed.

    This car would be fantastic, not that it isn't already close as is, with the 255HP 6 and the new SMG or perhaps 6speed steptronic.

    They almost seem to give them away from a leasing perspective, too.

    Terracotta is an acquired taste, but this car when all shined up, can go to work and to a black tie affair with its head up high. :shades:
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    Actually the X3 is smaller on the exterior than an X5, however it is actually larger on the inside. I am not sure how the MDX will be in the snow, but I know the X3 is about as good as it gets. The all wheel X-system is almost impossible to make it skid, even if you try to do it. It is pretty good at getting out of deep snow as well, however I think my former Jeep that could lock the 4 wheel drive in place might have been better in deep snow...maybe someone knows the answer to that problem. Any reviews I have read say the MDX is pretty ordinary, and actually you can save a few $1,000's by going with a Pilot that is almost the same vehicle.
    The X3 gets excellent reviews and one said it was the best car M3 to SUV of them all, might even be better than the car from which it is derived. Good luck in choosing.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,666
    I did that with a rear door. The only way I could get the button to come up was to do it with the remote. Seems you tried that. Seems to be a "real problem".

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    Try taking something solid (like a screwdriver), and flipping the latch (the part on the edge of the door that you can't see when its closed) back the other direction..

    I'd say your latch is basically "closed", so that there is no way for it to slide past the solid bar on the "B" pillar... You need to "open" the latch up..

    Hope this helps... I'm not very mechanically inclined..

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  • Thanks for your inputs.

    I called the BMW service this morning and had it unlocked. All that I had to do was, unlock the door using remote. Then, pull the door handle, hold it with one hand and using a screwdriver, open the latch on the door. It was simple, but had to wait for the right person.

    In case, anyone in this situation, you know what to do.
  • Hi! I am getting a new 2006X3. I am considering the bmw assist in order to have bluetooth. I am also considering the navigation system. Does anyone have any opinions on these? Because I am leasing this car, it was suggested to me to purchase a seperate navigation system and a seperate bluetooth accessory. Which way should I go--built in or seperate.
    P.S. Any opinions on the ipod input?
    Thank You
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    IMO, the BMW Assist is very expensive just to get bluetooth connectivity. If you can make do with just a bluetooth headphone, that may be the way to go. But then again, if you're leasing, it may amount to no more than $15- 20 bucks a month.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Does the 18" wheel with the Sport Pack also come with wider tires?
  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    BMW Assist as a stand-alone option is $750 or is included in the Premium Package. If you were planning on getting that package anyway, then it's a non-issue.

    As for navigation, it's an $1800 option. Not a great nav system, as it's controlled by the right radio knob. Certainly an aftermarket nav would be less expensive and/or touch-screen.... but it wouldn't have the nice fit and finish as the built-in nav, either.

    The ipod input is installed through the glove compartment and is wired up through the back of your radio. Note that it is not compatible with the Nav system, the premium sound system, Sirius, nor a CD changer.
  • What do you not like about the navigation system?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    Interestingly enough, they aren't wider, just lower profile...

    235/55-17 on 17 X 8 wheels...

    235/50-18 on 18 X 8 wheels...

    There may be a staggered wheel option with summer-only tires... There was on last year's model... but, that isn't standard with the sport package..

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  • bdr127bdr127 Posts: 950
    What do you not like about the navigation system?

    As I said in my previous post, the fact that all the nav controls are done through the right-side radio knob. It just feels a little clumsy or something. The screen is not really crisp like in the BMW cars, either. Despite iDrive, I actually like the BMW car version of the nav much better.

    If you get a chance to see/use one in person, that would definitely be your best bet.
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Thanks! I've seen lots of X3 with the standard wheels/tires, and was hoping there is an option for bigger, meatier paws, 'cause I think the standard setup looks a touch wimpy. On the X5, the optional wheel/tire combos, whether stand-alone, or part of a sport package, really transform the looks of the vehicle.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    The BMWUSA website also shows optional 19" wheels/tires...

    F 8.5 X 19 235/45-19
    R 9 X 19 255/40-19

    Price: $3550

    I think this is priced as an accessory, meaning you get to keep your standard wheels/tires (handy for winter).

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  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    These are for the X3? Wow, they will no doubt transform the X3 visually! But I wonder how the ultra-low profile will affect the ride, which isn't plush to begin with.

    Also, I wonder why the need for different sizes for F & R? Even though the x-drive is rear-biased, I don't see the power-split, nor the overall hp, to be sufficient to over-power the rear tires.
  • First off, the Premium package takes care of the Assist expense item and includes upgrades that, for once, actually seem to make this package a bargain.

    Assist in full on mode is free for one year. Beyond that, according to my BMW dealer, you can use Assist on a per call basis. Again, a no brainer.

    The 18" wheels and tires that are part of the sport package are better looking than the standard wheels and with the lower profile and the sport suspension the turn in and control of the vehicle is enhanced. More car like.

    We have have 6 cars with Nav systems -- the X3 system is well integrated, easy to program and has amazing detail and points of interest in its database.

    My new Audi A6 has a somewhat more crisp screen, but the BMW screen is easy to use and the system is actually easier, by a tiny bit, to program than the A6's. The voice commands, integration with the left instrument cluster "pod" too are wonderful.

    Don't leave home without it. We integrated the accessory to plant the phone into the armrest, upgraded the sound system and with the sport multi function steering wheel, everything works great.

    It needs voice activation for the phone at least, but the ability to load the phone's address book into the nav screen for easy scrolling ALMOST makes this a non-issue (I would still take voice dialing, now that I know how good it can be in the Audi implementation.)

    The aftermarket units work. They look like aftermarket units. If this is OK with you, well, that is OK with me. I like the integration and ease of use of a completely designed together system.

    The screen is color, it won't play DVD's and there is NO CD changer (but you can get one) -- add the upgraded sound + sirius sat radio and this X3 is darn near a luxury sport activity vehicle, not just a mere SAV.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    It's all about the bling... The staggered tires do nothing but give it a more aggressive look...

    What will it do to the ride? Well... it won't make it any better..

    What you should be asking? How long will those 19" tires last, and how much will it cost to replace them...

    Answer? Not long... and a lot.. ;)

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  • I suspect the standard all season tires on the sport option will be good for at least 36,000 miles. My buddy has an X5 with the same tires and he has over 42,000 miles and the tires appear to me to have about 1/3 of their life left to go.

    The tires are H rated, A/S Michelin's profile is 50, the ride may be somewhat firmer with 50 series tires, but somehow I suspect the harshness some folks talk about in this instance has to do with the stiffer spring rates in the sport package.

    We like the firmness, so this has, thus far, never been an issue. The X3 is quite comfortable especially with the Premium and Sport package combination. Great adjustability, too (speaking of the seats, that is.)

    We have never taken this car off road -- I don't think that is its forte, but it is a great road car -- as noted, I only SOMETIMES wish for the 255HP engine now in the new 3 and 5 sedans (both for the power boost and the better mileage.)

    Not wanting two X3's in our garage would be one of the only reasons for me to NOT consider an X3 when my current 2005 Audi A6 lease is up.

    With the two cars in our garage (now that the TT is gone), I seldom find myself having a preference as to which car we take -- both the A6 and the X3 are capable and comfortable.

    The upgraded sound system has in me a new fan -- my wife put a copy of Brothers in Arms in the CD player the other day and we were both blown away by this system's abilities to produce sizzling highs and gutteral lows (I said "wow, and this is THE FACTORY system upgrade,") color us impressed.

    I have never been "anti BMW" but his dude has made me a fan.
  • Hey everyone.. Been out of the forum chatter for a while now since my wife has been driving the x3, i haven't had much to talk about except the darn gas mileage dropping below 19 MPG due to stop/go driving of my wife and just her crazy driving ways. LOL.

    Anyways, took the car for servicing after 15K miles - according to service meter that was when it was time to take it. I guess they did an oil change, did some minor body repair work for Free and washed the car nice and clean.

    Was surprised when service counselor said tires need to be rotated only every 20K miles. Seems like BMW service is in the alternate world vs. most cars (oil change 5 k miles, etc), but I dind't question it.

    When i turn on ignition now, it obviously shows the next interval for service but it also says "INSPECTION" in upper right hand corner - what does this mean praytell?

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