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  • libertycatlibertycat Posts: 593
    You have hit the nail on the head. They are PERFECT competitors. They both are VERY small SUVs. The FX is smaller than all of its current competitors.
  • miamicrv1miamicrv1 Posts: 66
    I think the dimensions are almost identical to the CRV. I for one find that a plus since the defacto standard of 188 inches more or less is 10 more than I need.

    But more importantly. BMW is not building the vehicle. It's being built by a firm in Austria. Frankly, I'd never buy anything made by BMW's South Carolina facilty. So this may be a plus to. Any opinions on likely build quality and reliability issues.
  • vsromanvsroman Posts: 95
    Trevor Hofmann, the reviewer on who wrote the X3 article emailed me to say that the FX35/45 are much more comparable to the X5. He says that the overall size and weight are closer to the X5. He had interesting thoughts on performance..."the FX35 would obliterate both the X3 and X5 3.0 in acceleration tests." Another interesting quote..."there isn't an SUV made that can match the FX in the corners, Porsche Cayenne included." This comes from a guy who LOVES the X3 and X5.

    For me, it just seems that the X3's price will not match the size and performance of the FX35. A well-equipped FX35 for 38K and the comparable X3 3.0 for 45K...I don't think so...

    For those of you who have not looked at the FX35, you must see if first hand...the pictures do not do it justice.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    x3-nice interior

    however the x5 has no cargo space, i can't see the x3 having that either.
  • nobeenobee Posts: 194
    Libertycat, I agree, the bodycladding on the XC70 is just okay, but having sat in both the V70 and the XC70, I just felt a bit more comfortable in the XC.

    Anyway, even though I'm excited about the X3's debut I'm a bit gunshy about purchasing a first yr model..Take the X5 for example. Seems like a lot of buyers had some growing pains with the 1st yr model. I guess time will tell...lets hope for the best!

  • libertycatlibertycat Posts: 593
    The Honda CR-V is a mini or compact SUV.
  • ariellearielle Posts: 9
    Any bets as to how the X3 will fare on fuel economy? Will the 2.5liter engine do better than 21 mpg on the highway? When will this model reach dealers?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I sure hope that it doesn't cost me $40K. I think that the 2.5i version should start at about $32K. I've seen 325Xi Sport Wagons well equipped for about $36,500, so that's how much the X3 should be, maybe a thousand more for the special shocks.
    Thank GOD there's no iDrive.
  • x3lrvrx3lrvr Posts: 2
    I think the price will be a huge determining factor to see wether or not the X3 will sink or swim . Although it is a BMW, it will be compared with the vehicles in the same class, and if you are a BMW nut as I am, I would be more one sided to the X3 more than anything , but if BMW would like to get a piece of this market to the average consumer , they need to make it affordable .
  • partyboye1partyboye1 Posts: 16
    Did anyone notice the uncanny resemblance of the x3's ergonomics and the nissan sentra's? If you didn't, look at pictures of both and right back.
  • ariellearielle Posts: 9
    The height of the X3 is 66". Does anyone know what the ground clearance will be? Does it sound as if it will provide a high enough vantage point?
  • I think that 167.4 cm translates to more than 71" doesn't it? Taking my trusty ruler to the picture on the following link, I got about 12" which is of course ridiculous.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I hope that it won't cost $38K even. At that price- just run to the Acura dealer and buy an MDX. BMW will sell some, for those who like premium compact. I'm one of those people who like premium compact, but if it's going to cost me $38K, why should I buy it?
  • I'm interested in whether anyone cares that BMW is having the X3 made in Austria by Magna, the company that also makes Saab convertibles and the Jeep Grand Cherokee for Europe. The X3 design was done by BMW, but it will be the first BMW that won't be made in a BMW plant.

    I'm a reporter at a major newspaper. Write me at -- happy to swaps IDs once we connect.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    It's going to be very easy to tell. When these vehicles are produced the plant code will be on them. There is a list of plant codes for BMW manufacturing facilities.
  • bmwgurubmwguru Posts: 51
    It's more accurate to say it is the first mass produced BMW not built in a BMW plant. The M1 was made for BMW by Italdesign.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    looks fairly handsome in the blue color. No iDrive. This may be the last BMW without iDrive. (sources say the next 3-Series will have a decontented version of iDrive) (The 1-Series isn't expected to have iDrive, so that may be the last before BMW goes iDrive crazy in every car they make and they'll screw up. Look at the 7-Series)
  • mkarpmkarp Posts: 22
    I have heard the x3 will be available "early" in 04, does anyone know what that means? January? or April? or later?
    Is it me or does some of the photo's resemble the forester a little?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should be on showroom floors by March at the latest. Some will pop up Feb or Jan. It does look like a raised Forester.
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