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  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,936
    Here's the link (I tweaked the discussion some):

    BMW X3 vs Subaru Forester/XT vs Infiniti FX 35

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  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    jjman - fwiw I agree with you. However, in the world of Edmunds one can cross shop any car with any other car. If you want to go strictly by the published performance numbers you can go one way. But I don't know anybody who buys a car based on 0-60.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    Many do... just look at those who buy the cars for street drag racing.

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    eric - I submit they are in the minority. I should never say never, as someone, somewhere is always the exception. I have to add in my world, people are fairly conversative and won't for example, cross shop an Excursion with an Sti. But I'm sure someone, somewhere will come up with the case of why these two vehicles should be compared side-by-side.
  • clpurnellclpurnell Posts: 1,087
    The thing about the VQ is I don't have to rev it to redline to get the acceleration I want. It has gobs of torque through the entire powerband that I seldom go over 4500 rpm. Either way my mileage is going about 80-90mph on the hwy. That is effortless in the fx and still pulls 21 mpg+.

    Overtime I guess along with the BMW fanatiscim comes subaru fanatiscism too. I will see you all on the VS thread.
  • I am planning to order a x3 2.5L next week in NJ.
    The MSRP with options(moon roof & steptronic) comes to $33,620. When I last spoke to the salesman, he told he would only be able to take about 500$ off and the wait time is 2 months.

    It would be great if someone can tell how much are they are paying and what is the wait time.

    Thank you.
  • jjmanjjman Posts: 77
    sorry lakshman i think you are one of the few so you may have more info then the rest
  • vsromanvsroman Posts: 95
    interest in the 3.0, however, my dealer tells me that orders for the 2.5 far exceed the 3.0. I can't wait to here some feedback once folks start picking up their 2.5s.
  • jjmanjjman Posts: 77
    so far lakshman is one of the few interested in the 2.5 thats why his experience will help others though we can't help him. Personally I believe the 2.5 is too weak but then I have been driving nothing but 4cylinder cars so I thirst for a little power to brighten up my day. >:-|
  • vsromanvsroman Posts: 95
    I am surprised so many people are ordering the 2.5 w/o a test drive. I think many people are going to be :( about a 9.3 0-60. And it's not just 0-60, it's overall get up and go, whether passing on the highway, etc. I hope I am wrong about the 2.5's performance, because it's the 2.5 that is much more fairly priced. The 2.5 price compares directly with the FX35 price.

    If the better perfoming X3 3.0 was = in price to the FX35, I'd buy the X3. Since there is a 6K difference, I'm not so sure.
  • jjmanjjman Posts: 77
    just look at all those suvs that get 8.8-9.5 secs 0-60 times. Touareg, explorer, expedition, excursion, etc.... doesn't seem to matter to majority of the suv buyers. Most seem to just want the utility and the macho image.
  • saugataksaugatak Posts: 488
    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that there is not going to be too much 2.5 feedback for 2 reasons:

    1. car enthusiasts dominate these boards and none of those types are considering the 2.5 and

    2. who wants to post how they got passed by every toyota corolla on the freeway?
  • ulepulep Posts: 63
    I agree that the 2.5 might be a little too weak for the might take away the fun of driving an x3...but not all 4 cylinders are weak,i have one, and it's almost as fast as the m3..that's almost.
  • If the X-3 is such a great vehicle and you all seem to be praising it.Then why are there 6 new X-3's on the dealer's lot waiting for immediate delivery. They have been there since Monday.
    3/3.0 Blue & 3/3.0 Black
  • jjmanjjman Posts: 77
    they are either waiting for delivery to customers or are just for test driving. Especially since the x3 isn't for sale until Feb
  • vsromanvsroman Posts: 95
    "If the X-3 is such a great vehicle and you all seem to be praising it"

    Stated after several posts criticizing the 2.5 engine, not to mention the many negative interior quality posts, etc.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    There are two interiors, one is my taste the other is not. There is nothing wrong with the wood trim interior, it has the same quality as my 3-series, which is perfectly acceptable for my tastes, IMO.

    The 3L engine is more than adequate, not sure about the 2.5. Dealer said a number of customers already ordered the X3 with delivery the end of February. They almost had one more...
  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    you: Personally I believe the 2.5 is too weak but then I have been driving nothing but 4cylinder cars so I thirst for a little power to brighten up my day.

    me: my advice - buy a $30K 2.5 and take the $5K - $10K you save over the 3.0, and go buy a used performance car. Maybe you'll need to throw in a few more thousand. A 300ZX, Mazda RX-7, Camaro, Supra? A slightly more powerful SUV is not a substitute for a performance car. Buy the SUV for utility.
  • I tend to agree with one of the earlier posts (Saugatak?) I thought the 3.0s responsiveness was very good but not spectacular, so at 4000 lbs the 2.5 engine will be too weak. The whole point of buying a BMW is the performance aspect of it.

    But as I said earlier, the dealers I've talked to have been selling many more 2.5s.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    "The whole point of buying a BMW is the performance aspect of it."

    Performance is more than 0-60. I took the 3L on two test drives and found the performance to be exceedingly acceptable. It may not win every street race, but then again no vehicle will. For those who care about gas mileage I would believe it has the right balance between performance and mileage, at least for the 3L. The X3 3L is also not as spunky as my 3L. But then again the FX35 won't have the same numbers as the G35 due to the additional weight.
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