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BMW X3

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  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Heated mirrors aren't an option, because the heating elements in the mirrors are on 100% of the time the engine is running. Even on 100 degree/90% humidity days.
  • Thanks. Where can I get this P21 wheel cleaner? At any auto parts store? and what brand is it, etc.. details please.

    Also, since it is the brake dust, I'm assuming there is nothing wrong with the brakes and this is just the side effect, as you say, of having such responsive brakes..
  • I been a BMW owner for many years; 3/ 521 and two 325. I traded my 2001/ 521 for 2005 X-3 so I would have more room to help me at my vacation home.
    Nice car, good ride but after 5 months I'm disappointed in what I have for my $35,000.
    It's the little things that should be there....No garage door opener; have to push button to open passenger's doors; security key doesn't work downtown Chicago, only manual open/lock; radio static downtown so bad have to turn off; roof vent made of cloth and wind noise way too loud;cupholders so flimsy that one replaced already;no back rear area heat vents;and there never is a gas station that it doesn't want to stop for a drink!
    I think for this kind of $$ there are accepted standard features that BMW has chose not to include and what I listed is cheap. My only alternative is to move away to Japan for something better.
    BMW your about to lose a longtime customer.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    Any auto parts store... Wear rubber gloves.. Nothing wrong with your brakes, take a look at any late-model BMW... they all have it.. BMW uses soft pads and soft rotors.. Creates a lot of dust, but they really hook up.

    P21s is the brand name..

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  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    You can also swap out your brake pads to ones that grip just as well, but not nearly as much brake dust. I use the PBR/Axxis brakes on my 3 series, and there is 99.5% less dust and grip just as well. I would think with this being a 3 series based vehicle you could use the same brakes, but you'd probably want to talk with one who knows the parts better than me.

    -Paul
  • al35al35 Posts: 1
    Hi, I'm getting around 10 mpg driving in NYC with a light foot and around 23 mpg on a highway using 93 gas and having auto trans.
    Does anyone have similar mpg in similar driving conditions? Or its something wrong with a car (2000 miles)?
    Thanks.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Methinks NOT!

    Most come on only when the rear window defogger/defrost is on.
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    Actually, I was at the dealership yesterday. The 2005 X3s do not have heated mirrors in the standard package or the cold weather package......looks like someone missed it.

    I checked and did not see any heated mirror buttons on the light-switch panel nor did I see the heated mirror sign which generally appears on the mirror.

    I'm sure they would advertise this added feature....guess snow is around the corner...will find out soon enough!
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    23 MPG!!!!! WOW! How many miles do you have on your truck?

    I have 2600 miles and get between 16 (city) and 19 (highway) on my 2.5 - with BP Ultimate 93.

    What brand gas are you using?
  • guestguest Posts: 774
    I use 93 also, whats killing me is a city driving where I'm getting around 10mpg.
    Did you try reset your gas consumtion meter when you actually driving on a highway?
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    I noticed that many people are paying near full price for all parts and accesories....I joined the BMW CCA when I bought my truck and it is the best $40 I have spent. You get an awesome magazine (Roundel) every month, plus most (if not all!) dealers offer 20% discount on parts and 15% discount on labor.

    I have already saved over a 100 bucks on my accessory purchases, supplies and labor. Plus you are eligible for a cash reward ($500 - $1500) for buying a new or CPO BMW (if you are a CCA member in good standing for 12 months)

    After discounts - the Ipod connector is for $120 + $51 (for .75 hours of Labor @ $85 per hour). Savings of about $43 for a $215 job

    http://www.bmwcca.org/index_flash.shtml
    http://bmwcca.org/services/svcfset.shtml
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    Actually, I reset the odometer every time I fill gas. So I just calculate the mileage driven divided by the quantity of gas that I just filled. Seems to be the most accurate.

    The trip computer calculates over a longer period of time and since I am within the first 3500 miles, I believe my mileage is still improving. Once in a while I will reset the MPG on the trip computer.
  • 10 MPG is crazy! I put 93 octance gas and in mix of highway/city get about 19 MPG, but I am in my first 3500 miles also so hopefully it will get better...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    In NYC traffic? Not surprising... Most people don't really do pure city driving, so it is hard for them to compare..

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    Are not part of any package.. They are standard.. They don't have a button, because they work automatically.. They don't come on with the rear window defooggers (many other makes use this system). I'm not sure if they are on 100% of the time (doubtful), but I do think they work off of the outside temperature sensor, and come on at certain temperatures (guessing).

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • How often should the air be checked... Does that Tire gauge button tell you when you are low on air, or just a flat tire notification? I never understood that function or the function of that Red Light thingie attached to the bottom of the rear view mirror.
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    Fondly called the "Clown-Nose", it houses a LED that flashes when the car alarm is armed. Atleast in the case of the X3, I have it programmed to flash (when locked!) even though I do not have an alarm. Is a good visual deterrent.

    For cars without the auto-dimming rear view mirror, it also functions as the dimming lever. Just twist it!
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    2002 3 series owners manual page 48. Check it out. I'm sure the X3 works similiarly.
  • Just got an '05 X3 3.0 auto. With around 600 miles so far i'm getting aroung 14mpg. This is by the old fashioned method, not the on-board computer. Otherwise the car is great.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    I'll take your word for it... what does it say? On all the time?

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Quote the manual - interpet as desired.

     

    Electric defrosting* Both mirrors are automatically heated when you turn the ignition key to position 2.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    That pretty much says it all...

     

    Thanks!!

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  • I have been stationed in Germany for a total of 7 years now, and the X3 i have purchased will be my 3th BMW (and first new one). I currently have a 95 325i which i have owned for 5 years . I have opened it up on the autobahn to 130mph for periods of time, but never dared ready trying it out on the corners really hard, cause i dont want to lose the back end and crash and total the thing. Has anyone put the X3 into the corners hard? To see how it really handles? I have a second question but will post another message to keep the conversations separate.
  • I have seen may posts on this board complaining about the price of this option and that option. or settling for what's on the lot, even though they would like more options.

     

    This will be my first new car purchase, and i am getting the works, loaded and waiting for it to be built. If you are going to drop $35,000+ for a "BMW" or any vehicle for that matter, why are people complaining about a such and such dollars for this and that option, all to save $10 dollars a month on a car payment????? Or this thing is not getting the gas mileage on the "tin"

     

    This is what I think when to break the $30-$35 threshold for a base priced vehicle, these are not things to dither about. If you think you can be up in this class of vehicle then "GO FOR IT" it is worth every penny. I will be very happy that I got every option I wanted when i take delivery. No second guessing or trying to add stuff i regret i did not want to pay for at the start.

    If you can't afford to tank up well I better get a Honda CVX, and if you want the cruise, well stick with the bow tie (chevy) get the cruise and save yourself $15K.

     

    28 Jan is my Xmas day for my dream "SAV", WOW what a long time to wait.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Maybe a form of standing around jawing near the heat and the cracker barrel.

     

    It's a harmless game we play between the car sales people and ourselves.
  • kohinahikohinahi Posts: 103
    Found it.....for the X3. Good to have a searcheable electronic copy of the manual....available free from BMW Ownerlink.

    Hard copy manual - Pg.29, paragraph 2

    Electronic manual - Pg.32, paragraph 4

     

     Electric heaters

    Both mirrors are heated automatically in

    ignition key position 2.
  • jrynnjrynn Posts: 162
    In 2004, BMW held an X3 "performance" driving event in various cities around the US. When it came through Washington, DC, they set up a short (3/4 to 1 mile) road course in the FedEx Field parking lot. Not super challenging, but enough S's, sweeping lefts, and hairpins to offer variety. They'd load three drivers and one instructor in each X3 and basically send people out to lap as fast as they could.

     

    BMW (and I'd guess their insurance company) had a lot of faith that the X3 wouldn't (couldn't) roll, even when cornered hard enough to wear out tires every 50 - 200 miles (depending on the outside temp.)

     

    The point made in the pre-drive brief was that the X3 CG is VERY low compared to most SUVs.

     

    Does it handle curves as well as a three series sedan? No. Does it handle curves better than most other sedans? Yes.
  • designmandesignman Posts: 2,129
    Among the critics what gets lost or not noticed to begin with is the X3's handling ability. Many people want cushy luxury utes. Harsh ride? Stay away. Bring on the sport drivers who need a little utility. No iDrive, spartan interior? Works for me. I think this is the one new-age bimmer that really hits the target. All beef, no fat.

     

    I always take reviews with a grain of salt and let my own driving impressions guide me but the Edmunds first-drive review by D. John Booth mirrors my thoughts almost exactly:

     

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/bmw/x3/100374220/roadtestarticle.- html?articleId=100732&tid=edmunds.e.roadtests.content...BMW*
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Agreed. If you're target perception is the RX330, the X3 is not that. But if you want the handling and precision of the 3 series in a small suv package - it's a winner.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,582
    that I could see in my short time with the X3 (service loaner).. is the steering ratio isn't nearly as quick as my 325i.. Any handling deficiencies seemed more attributable to the standard higher-profile all-season tires than to a higher CG.

     

    It was a very confidence inspiring drive... Granted, it won't handle like a 3-series, but it gives you the same road feel and control.. Just have to turn the wheel more to get the same level of turn-in.

     

    regards,

    kyfdx

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