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BMW X3

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  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    Any tips on negotiating or suggestions?

    Go to www.bmwusa.com and do a search for CPO X3s in your area. That should give you a rough idea of whether the price is in the ballpark. FYI, CPO certification adds @$1000 to the price. Make sure that you take an extended test drive, some folks(not me) find the sport suspension calibration a bit too hard-core.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Can you tell me more about this sport suspension? I haven't test drove this vehicle yet. Some car review websites don't seem to recommend the sport suspension, however many BMW owners' reviews say they like it. When would I expect a rough and stiff ride? When I'm driving on a bumpy road? What about normal everday driving?
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    When would I expect a rough and stiff ride? When I'm driving on a bumpy road? What about normal everday driving?

    I had a 2006 X3 3.0 loaner that was equipped with the Sport Package and it felt plenty compliant to me. That said, all but a couple of my BMWs have been equipped with the sport suspension. That's why you need to test drive the car over the types of roads you typically drive- because you alone can make the final call as to whether that suspension calibration is your cup of tea.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    On the surface, that does seem like a very good price for a 2006 X3. Just a couple small points:

    1) If you know the last 8 digits of the VIN, a BMW service advisor should be able to give you service/repair history for that X3.

    2) While I was shopping for a used X3 a few months ago, one dealer (not a BMW dealer) advertised "leather" seats on their 2005 X3 3.0i. Upon closer inspection, I could tell they were leatherette (vinyl) seats, not leather. At first, it's not very easy to tell the difference, because BMW does a good job with their base leatherette seats. I knew these were not leather because I had recently visited a BMW store. If you live in Texas, you probably want to make sure those seats are not black vinyl. They might look fine, but they won't breathe!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    I don't care what BMW NA recommends, I'm having the ATF and the F/R final drive oil in my wife's 60K mile 2004 X3 2.5 changed next week. I'm hoping to drive it past 200K without any major drivetrain repairs.
    Stay tuned... :P

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    I don't blame you. Just curious... How long does BMW NA specify for those oil changes? I would have guessed they recommend these fluid changes at an Inspection II (60K) service, but obviously not. Does BMW NA treat these as lifetime fluids??

    On a previous topic: Any good suggestions on how I can research BMW TSBs? I'd like to point my Service Rep to the proper TSB involving the window/door seals. I'm taking our '04 X3 in this Thursday morning for service, and I'd like to get the intermittant window noise issue resolved before our newly acquired X3 reaches its 4th birthday. Thanks!
  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    I think I can now answer my own question. Looks like the appropriate TSB is SI B 51 28 05, "Window Guide Noise", dated February 2007.

    The next question is whether I first try the Tech Protect product you referenced, or should I first ask BMW Service to perform this TSB now? I will probably ask for the TSB...
  • jrynnjrynn Posts: 162
    In X3's from 2006 and earlier, it is INCREDIBLY easy to tell whether the seats are vinyl or leather. It doesn't take a "close" inspection. There's a "stripe" of very obvious vinyl fabric in the center of both front seats. They're just plain ugly.

    In 2007, BMW solved that aesthetic problem.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    How long does BMW NA specify for those oil changes? I would have guessed they recommend these fluid changes at an Inspection II (60K) service, but obviously not. Does BMW NA treat these as lifetime fluids??

    The ATF is to be changed every 100K. Everything else(final drives and transfer case) have "Lifetime" fills.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    I just picked up the X3 from the dealer and the cost for changing the ATF and transfer case fluid came to $207. Not counting tires(4 Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S- @$400), it means that the truck's maintenance expense for 2007 has amounted to less than $260.
    Just another year of "breathtakingly expensive" servicing costs for my two BMWs... ;)

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Now that I'm out of warranty, thought I'd report on what maintenance issues my car has undergone. The only issue I've had to pay for was a $487 repair for a leaking crank-case valve. The $2100 passenger airbag sensor failure I got covered under "dealership goodwill" I suspect because my sensor has failed twice so far. The failure of the windshield wiper pump I also got covered under "goodwill". I've replaced the Pirelli tires with a new set of the same at 55,000 miles and am looking forward to reaching at least 100,000 miles before trading in the car for a Series 1 or a hardtop convertible. I think I have one of the first X3s produced (with the rough suspension) but it has been a driving delight.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    am looking forward to reaching at least 100,000 miles before trading in the car for a Series 1 or a hardtop convertible.

    I'm planning on keeping mine so that my son can drive it when he obtains his license in @4 years. I'm hoping it will survive until le goes off to college.

    I think I have one of the first X3s produced (with the rough suspension) but it has been a driving delight.

    I agree; I have an early build non-sport and the ride is a bit firm but certainly not uncomfortable. My dealer gave me a new X5 3.0si loaner and I have to say that I was glad to get the X3 back. The X5 was a very nice drive, but my X3 feels more nimble and does a much better job of communicating with the driver.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,979
    your 184hp X3 will make a great car for a young driver. I am a little shocked that your son's first car will be equipped with a slushbox. Are you going to teach him to drive on the Club Sport too I hope?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    your 184hp X3 will make a great car for a young driver.

    That's what I'm thinking; not enough power to get him into trouble, but not a total slug either.

    Are you going to teach him to drive on the Club Sport too I hope?

    Actually, I plan to start his driver training next summer in the Wrangler. It's a pretty easy MT to learn, and he'll have plenty of room to maneuver on the old farm road.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Is BMW no longer making the 2.5-liter engine in the X3? Thanks.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    Is BMW no longer making the 2.5-liter engine in the X3?

    Not for the US; the only available engine is the N52N 3.0 liter.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • cotmccotmc Posts: 1,081
    "My dealer gave me a new X5 3.0si loaner..."

    My dealer was swamped yesterday, and all the BMW loaners were gone. Instead, I was given an Enterprise rental car: a silver Kia Sedona minivan!

    :mad:

    I'll get the X3 back tomorrow morning.
  • I bought one of the original X3's - a 2.5 when they first came out. I had a 528i previously. It was a disaster. The main problem was the noise that came from body flex - creakin' like an old ship as well as the awesomely rough and hoppy ride. I dumped the X3 and got a 330i. My wife wants an X3 - do they have the body flex and hoopy ride fixed?. Thnx
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    My wife wants an X3 - do they have the body flex and hoopy ride fixed?

    Nothing to fix; our X3 has a 3/04 build date and at 56K it does not exhibit either problem. Perhaps you got a bad one.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    and am looking forward to reaching at least 100,000 miles before trading in the car for a Series 1 or a hardtop convertible.

    I didn't think I would find a car I would like better than my 2004 X3, which by the way was a 2.5. But, I am really enjoying my 2008 hardtop convertible 6 speed manual. Only regret is getting 228 instead of 335. It'll do very nicely, but that extra turbo boost in the 335 is real nice. You also have to accept, you can't carry around as much stuff.

    2015 Mercedes-Benz E400 , 2013 Audi A4, 2013 VW Passat

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    But, I am really enjoying my 2008 hardtop convertible 6 speed manual.

    I drove the 328i 6 speed at the US Press launch and I actually liked it just about as well as the 335i. They are both fabulous cars.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 12,788
    I agree they are both fabulous cars. My wife has a 4 door 335xi and although it is more fun driving the Cabriolet, I like the exhaust sound from her car (British sports car from the 60's) and the power boost, and the gear shifting is smoother with the extra horses.

    One big improvement over the X3 is 30 miles per gallon vs. 25.

    But, Like I say, the X3 is a great vehicle...I rent a lot of different cars and I always enjoyed getting back into the X3. However, if you don't need the extra room inside or 4 doors, and like the idea of a convertible, then at least try a Cabriolet 328 or 335!

    One more thing. I had to take my son-in-law to the airport in his Suburban. Who buys those things? The steering is loose and all over the road, the steering wheel is so thin it looks like it was made for a Kia, the shift lever mounted on the steering column looks and feels like it was made from a piece of pipe, and the door handles - which are hidden under the arm rests, look like they were made from the same piece of pipe. The dash and instruments are hard to read and find, and it looks like the parts came out of a parts drawer - no sense for style or integrity. It sure felt good to be back in my bimmer!

    2015 Mercedes-Benz E400 , 2013 Audi A4, 2013 VW Passat

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    It sure felt good to be back in my bimmer!

    They certainly spoil you. I recently bought a Mazdaspeed3 to play around with, and while build quality and reliability has been very good, it just doesn't feel as solid as a BMW.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,979
    This afternoon I performed my first repair on my wife's '07 X3. A few weeks ago she was backing out of a patient's driveway and didn't notice the stone wall behind her. Luckily she only cracked the right rear tail light & didn't do any body damage (or get hurt herself).

    I got the part number thanks to a poster on bimmerfest and called a few local dealers. The closest dealership to my apartment is Westchester BMW (a BMW NA owned store) gave me a price of $95. He said he had one in stock and I could pick it up. I asked if they give discounts to BMWCCA members and he said they did. I had my wife go pick up the part (I was at work yesterday). She brought our BMWCCA membership card and got the part for $78 + tax (about $84). The dealership where we bought the truck from wanted $120+ tax for the same part.

    Replacing the tail light assembly was a very easy DIY job. All you need is a 10mm socket to loosen the nuts on the inside of the truck about a quarter turn. The nuts then come out by twisting by hand. The new taillight assemble even comes with bulbs!

    I definitely feel like I accomplished something today.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    I definitely feel like I accomplished something today.

    Good job! No doubt we will hear from some pitiful soul who took his X3 to a profit-hungry dealer and got charged $500 for the same work... Common sense, CCA membership, a little research and a willingness to do a bit of DIY service goes a very long way toward making a BMW inexpensive to own.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,979
    Thanks for the vote of confidence!

    I've never actually worked on cars before. I always take them in for service & repairs.

    Little by little I am learning that some things aren't that difficult. Last summer I got a flat tire. I called AAA & they said they'd be an hour. I didn't want to wait and I figured if worse came to worse, the AAA guy would help me if I ran into ttrouble. So I swaped off the tire and put the dougnut on before I knew it.

    It just takes a little patience.

    Once we sell our condo (hopefully by the the end of next January) and buy a house, I plan on buying a really cheap car ($2K to $3K) to play with and learn how to fix and do maintenance. Maybe a high mileage E36 or E30 :shades:

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • jrynnjrynn Posts: 162
    My wife wants an X3 - do they have the body flex and hoopy ride fixed?. Thnx

    Ummm. Why don't you take one out for a test drive on your local roads? Perhaps your definition of "hoopy" is different than other posters.

    Me? I'm plenty happy (not "hoopy") with the way my 2006 X3 rides. It's as close to a sports sedan as any SAV/SUV I've ever had the pleasure to drive. But, c'mon. It's still an SAV/SUV, and along with the ability to haul two adults, two kids in carseats, and two medium size dogs in the cargo area, there is a trade-off in handling compared to, say, a 3-series sedan.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    I plan on buying a really cheap car ($2K to $3K) to play with and learn how to fix and do maintenance. Maybe a high mileage E36 or E30

    Let me know when you are ready; I love spending other people's money- particularly on cars, motorcycles, and home theater... :D

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,979
    I'll definitely consult you when the time comes! I've always said my minimum BMW requirements are a stick and Sports Package. But with so many aftermarket suspensions, I could just get one with a stick!

    I've been meaning to ask you, why'd you change your name?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,850
    I've been meaning to ask you, why'd you change your name?

    Send a message to my CarSpace page.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

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