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  • delrickdelrick Posts: 105
    (anybody else think the search function here is useless? although the search terms box says search in this discussion, the actual search actually goes thru the entire site and I always have to stop it after several minutes of finding nothing.)

    I was looking for this post to thank jimbob533 for the pointer to 51 07 04.

    Took delivery on an 05 X3 a couple of weeks ago and thought it was falling apart.

    On anything but a glass smooth road surface, it rattled and creaked like a buckboard.

    Ran across jims post and when I was able to get into the dealers, after the 4th holiday, I suggested that those issues might be contributing to the problem.

    When I picked up the car, the service notice indicated that all they had done was apply bulletin 51 07 04.

    The difference is amazing.

    No rattles or squeaks...period.

    thanks for the heads up....
  • bargamon1bargamon1 Posts: 110
    Hey mark, lurking here at your suggesting!

    question to those with Sport option: Is the ride as bad as advertised? I have read a few reviews and most was very good except that the sport x3 was very bad ride quality. Car and Driver mentioned it as one of the silliest vehicles in years, and the worst riding BMW ever! Not to take it all with a grain of salt, but those are pretty harsh words!

    While I can appreciate a sport ride as being harsher than its more tame counterpart, is it that severe?
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    although the search terms box says search in this discussion, the actual search actually goes thru the entire site and I always have to stop it after several minutes of finding nothing.

    No, the actual search is confined to just this discussion even though the message reports it's "searching over two million items." I just did a search using the word "creaking" and it took a few seconds displaying results only from this discussion.

    The "Advanced Search" option will let you narrow down your search.

    tidester, host
  • rob34rob34 Posts: 42
    I just picked my 3.0 with sport yesterday. I asked the dealership if they checked the tire pressure and they said yes. Wrong. I checked it right away and all tires were at like 44 PSI. The manual says 32 front, 35 rear. I lowered the tire pressure to those levels and it rides great. I don't find my car to be rough at all, even over bumps. It's exactly as it should be. All, check your tire pressures, and if you still think it rides to harshly, perhaps you should get a town car or something.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,049
    My wife and I are NOT experts in ride quality. But we've had dozens of German cars over the past 30 years. We currently have three in our garage right now -- the X3 we have is a 3.0 Sport, Premium, Cold and a bunch of other options to crank this little puppy darn near into the Luxury Performance Sedan class of vehicles.

    I can tell you that the 2003 TT coupe rides rougher and is fairly noisy.

    My wife's 6spd manual X3 with the all season 18" wheels and tires that come with the sport package "normally" is very quiet, controlled over all kinds of surfaces and rides very well. It is somewhat firm. But, having said that, so is my new Audi A6 which has 245 x 40 x 18" tires and the NON sport suspension.

    The ride quality of the X3 is, IMHO, a product of 2 things (well, maybe 3) -- the wheelbase and the stiffness of the X3's chassis (#3 could be spring rate, but of the three, I vote for the wheelbase and chassis stiffness as the main contributors.)

    On a washboard road (and there are darn few of them) the ride is more choppy than on normally smooth roads (and there aren't too many of these either), but that would be true of almost any car unless it had a very long wheelbase and an active suspension.

    You may or may not like a firm suspension -- the X3 is a BMW, a car based on the 3 series Bimmer.

    In its normal guise, the X3 rides, IMHO, worse than the one with the sport package. I think it may be a combination of the seats, the upgrades that go with the Premium part of the deal, the minimal road noise and the precise turn in that goes with the Servotronic option.

    Yes, the early early reviews of the 2004 X3 proclaimed it was too harsh -- but by May 2004 BMW had implemented an upgrade or change or whatever you want to call it that addressed the rock hard, near brittle feel of the first 6 month's worth of cars to come off the assembly line.

    It is, based on our experience -- with THE largest volume BMW in Ohio -- difficult to find many examples of the X3 equipped with the combination of packages and options that seems to put this car in its absolute best light.

    We have test driven X3 3.0's standard and sport (with both stick and auto), X3 2.5's with stick and auto but not with sport. We have driven cars with and without the Premium package and with and without the upgraded sound system, etc etc etc.

    The BMW X3, with the above as a backdrop, is very sensitive to how it is configured. It is an absolute chameleon car/SAV.

    I would go so far as to say this car can be luxurious/comfortable, sporty and utilitarian -- and you can make it be all three at the same time. In our experience with what is normally for sale at a dealer, the normal course is to "pick two" -- usually the one that seems to have been omitted from in-stock inventory is luxurious/comfortable.

    That's our story and we're stickin' to it! :shades:
  • bargamon1bargamon1 Posts: 110
    IN many ways you describe our beloved Allroad!

    I will add it to my list.

    Did you ever consider the FX35 or the lack of a manual throw it out of contention?

    Its not as refined, but its an unusual ride a few years ahead of its time.

    Any expectatoins for 0-60 with new 255 hp engine? Should at leaset be sub 7 seconds!
  • bargamon1bargamon1 Posts: 110
    Does anyone really love the big sunroof??
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,049
    Count us as fans of the sunroof!
  • mjpollackmjpollack Posts: 1
    I would be happy with it, except that it has been incredibly problematic ever since I got the car (2004 X3 2.5i). It has leaked repeatedly, and the repair ATTEMPTS have always left something else wrong with it. It leaked, then it gurgled, then it rattled, then it leaked again, now it rattles again and the wind deflector binds. I have been fairly discouraged by the whole thing.... I don't expect that it is over either. In one year, the car has been in for repair about 12 times.

    There are things that I like about it, but I can guarantee that when my lease is over, I will no longer be an X3 driver.
  • robertvrobertv Posts: 33
    I'm "iffy" on the sunroof. Yes it's huge and has several different positions you can put it in but I think it's more for the back seat people to enjoy. The sunroof seems to start pretty far back. Further back than my previous 2 vehicles that had sunroofs. I guess this is due to the aggressively sloped windshield. Add to this the fact that I am a pretty short guy (oh woe is me) and have to sit closer to the dash the sunroof almost starts right above my head. Well... not quite but it sure seems that way. For me, it's hard to notice when it's open unless the sun is shining directly on me. So I don't get to enjoy it as much as most people would.

    That being said I would still get the sunroof if I had to purchase it all over again. It's one of the things that sets is apart from the competition. I have had zero problems with my X3 so far but I've only had it for 5 weeks. I'm hoping it stays that way.
  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,335
    I really like my sunroof and it is the first thing everyone notices when they get into my X3. (I agree with Robertv that it would be nice if it started closer to the windshield).
    If I had the kind of problems some of you have experienced then I would certainly feel different about it.
    I have only 9,000 miles in 10 months and I love driving my X3. I can't imagine another car that offers the safety, fun of driving, unique styling, comfort, reasonable gas mileage, engineering, and all at a fairly reasonable price (if you put the same options on an Explorer or Cherokee). Happy driving!

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Never cared much for sunroofs/moonroofs, big or small. Potential problems with leaks, rattles, etc as others have pointed out. :sick: And IMO they actually make the interior hotter. A pet peeve of mine is how many manufacturer force you to buy the thing by grouping it into an option package. :mad: Rented a Mustang convertible on the weekend just for fun. And IMO, if you really want open-air motoring, a convertible is the way to go. :shades:
  • yetialanyetialan Posts: 13
    For those of you that travel with children in your X3 I have a couple quick questions. I am looking to sign a 39 month lease and I am expecting our 1st child soon. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    1) With a car seat in the back from ages 1-3 is their room on either side of the car seat for two adults to sit comfortably (assuming the baby seat is in the middle rear seat)?

    2) Does a stroller and baby stuff all fit in the back of the X3 from your experiences if the wife and I go away for a weekend (I know this depends on how much you pack but wanted opinions)?

    3) Any other comments

    I am also looking at M class, Jeep and X5 (X5 really does not seem that much bigger than X3 dimensions both interior and exterior!)


  • bargamon1bargamon1 Posts: 110
    Bag width wise in the back??
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,049
    In May a 39 month lease was MORE per month than a 36 month lease. Maybe things are different now.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,968
    Special 39 month leases this month... on the X3 and X5...

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • driver100driver100 Burlington, ON 7 mo/Tampa FL 5 moPosts: 11,335
    About 3 reviews I have read say the X3 is slightly smaller than the X5 externally, but is actually larger internally. Hope that helps a bit. Questions 1 to 3 I don't know, but people who have sat in the back of my X3 say it's very comfortable.

    2012 535ix 2013 Audi A4 2013 Passat

  • provoloneprovolone Posts: 3
    We were in exactly the same situation in April '04 and haven't regretted one day our decision to purchase the X3. To answer your questions:
    1. There is room on both sides for adults to sit when using the infant rear facing and the toddler front facing car seat. We used a Graco and now have a Britax. BTW baby in the middle is the safest position.

    2. Big Graco stroller fits. We have enough room in the back to pack for a weekend, a week however requires us to put the Thule box on top. Suggestion is to bring your stroller to the dealer and try it out.

    3. Rock solid engine, sturdy safe family of three vehicle. Drive an X3 and you will eliminate the Jeep from contention immediately.
  • bargamon1bargamon1 Posts: 110
    any infomation about engine upgrade? Trim? etc?
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