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BMW X3

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    We've had our '07 X3 3.0siA since the end of July '07 and my wife really likes it! She's been piling on the miles working and shuttling out 18 month old son around, so we've been using my '01 Prelude Type SH as our weekend/family vehicle (as long as we don't have too much stuff). I actually got to drive the X3 around town today and forgot how much I really enjoy driving it.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,102
    The 3.0si is so peppy!
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    We've had our '07 X3 3.0siA since the end of July '07 and my wife really likes it!

    My wife still likes her '04, but I think she'd really prefer a 128i or a Mini Cooper S Clubman. Maybe when our son starts driving the X3...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    This time around I wanted to keep our car payments low (even though I know leasing is more expensive long term). At $471.67 per month (0 cap cost reduction, 36 months, 15K per year) our very lightly optioned (but not lightly equipped) '07 X3 is a great deal for a truck that stickered for a little less than $41K.

    I'm a big believer in the fact that cars are very well made and if properly (read: anally) maintained should last between 8 & 10 years.

    When our lease is up, we'll be looking to buy our next vehicle. Maybe a Passat Wagon or A4 2.0T Avant. I'd consider another X3 too.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • bmw4lifebmw4life Posts: 4
    "love the Touch Signalling -- dealer sales didn't even know about it, in fact claimed it did not work on the X3 since it doesn't have iDrive."

    What do you mean by touch signalling? Can you please explain? I have an 08 X3 also, but would like to have the same feature as you.

    I've seen the angel eyes as the daytime running light on the 328 and 335 coupes, also the new X5s. I am wondering why the X3 has the dim yellow light instead. It will be cool to have the daytime running angel eyes.
    :P
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,102
    Touch Signalling: a light tap up or down on the signal stalk and the blinker blinks 3 times. I have had it for years on my Audi and all the 5 series Bimmers we have been loaned always have it -- so I asked for it to be turned on, and they did.

    The angel eyes, too, are on our car and they and the DRL's are now on the moment the key is turned to the ON position.

    We had the auto door lock feature turned on, too.

    There are a bunch of dealer only turn on features (controlled by idrive in other BMW's,) they are detailed in the manual.

    The voice command is listed as "separate manual" -- there is NO separate manual -- it is just there and you can say "help" and it will list the commands it understands.

    Pretty cool, even works with the blackberry my wife is never without.

    "Dial number:

    etc etc etc"
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    ANGEL EYES are the DRLs if you have XENON headlights.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • 928928 Posts: 3
    Is anyone using regular gasoline for your X3? I read the owner's manual , it said premium Gasoline AKi 91 is higly recommended. However, you may also use gasoline with a lower AKI rating, the minimum AKi rating is 87.

    I am using premium gas now, but with gas price keep raising, if I could use regular, it will save me about $30 a month. Any advises? Mine is a 3 year leased car.
  • My service adviser said I could get by with the mid-grade gas, so I stopped using premium a year ago. I bought my X3, so I'm not going to chance putting in the cheapest fuel. I want the car to last awhile - and with no car payment, I can afford the higher gas costs. From what I was told, the car has sensors that detect things relating to the fuel, so I'll continue to use either mid or premium just so that the car operates on its best level.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    I am using premium gas now, but with gas price keep raising, if I could use regular, it will save me about $30 a month. Any advises? Mine is a 3 year leased car.

    Yes. Use premium fuel. That is what the motor was designed for. If you use a cheaper grade the ECU will roll back the timing to adjust and the usual result is a decrease in fuel economy. You probably don't want to hear this either, but using a Top Tier gasoline is also a good idea.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • bmw4lifebmw4life Posts: 4
    Thanks!
    My in-laws has a VW jetta, and it also has the "touch signalling" feature. I was wondering why my bimmer doesn't have it. It's actually cool to have it.
    The angel eyes doesn't turn on unless you turn the switch to half (parking light) or full (xenon head lights), but the DRL is just the high beem lens which emitts yellow lights. I saw the new X5, 5 series, 3 series coupes, and even the 135i has the angel eye (halo rings) as their DRL. So I am wondering if the X3 can be upgraded as well.
    :confuse:
  • bodble2bodble2 Posts: 4,519
    Even the Mini's got touch signalling, so I'm surprised the X3 doesn't. But I actually don't like the touch signalling. I find the whole setup cumbersome when you're going from touch to full signal, and when you cancel sometimes you end up signalling the other direction. I group that feature in with rain-sensing wipers -- gimmicky but more often than not, a pain in the a$$. :(
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,102
    The X3 has touch signalling, it is an option to turn it on or off.
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,102
    It will cost more to use regular than to use the gasoline the thing was designed for -- here in OH, the price is $.20 per gallon higher $3.30 vs $3.50, using regular reduces gas mileage, reduces power, and is not the way to save money.

    Ask the dealer and listen for the words, "false economy."

    If you used 30 gallons per week, $6.00 upcharge, if you use 5 tanks per month then there is your $30. If your mileage AND power drop the equivalent of $30 per month, you be paying the same and having a less peppy car that is retarding the ignition to prevent preignition -- all at the expense of power and gas mileage.
  • daddymandaddyman Posts: 14
    And I am still very unhappy. This thing is the biggest piece of $%^& I have owned in years. And to make matters worse BMW and the Dealer keep trying to shift the blame from one to the other. As soon as I am close to break even this thing is gone. They are now proposing a software update for Sept of 08 for the transmission lag. This is an 07 X3. Two years and they still don't have it right. :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    Death trap?
    LOL!

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    Friday I took the X3 to the dealer(Swope BMW, Louisville) for its first Inspection II. I also had them flush the brake fluid and repair a bit of minor curb rash on the LF wheel(inflicted by my wife). I got a 528xi loaner(nice ride, but too big and soft for my tastes). Once again I was pleasantly surprised by the final cost: $424- and that includes the $42 I spent to provide my own M1 0W-40. Based on the annual mileage, we shouldn't see the dealer again for a year or so. Of course, I'll still change the oil myself at 1/2 of the interval calculated by the SI, but that only amounts to @$50 in parts. Best of all, the X still looks and drives as new.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    from a 400 mile NY to MA road trip where the X3 performed brilliantly. 24.5 mpg according to the car's trip computer I kept it between 65 & 70 mph on cruise control). It swallowed 2 days worth of gear for my wife, myself, & our 20 month old son with ease. It cost $72.50 to fill up the tank with Super Yesterday. We're about to hit the 14,000 miloe mark. Our first service should be coming up soon.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • imgdocimgdoc Posts: 30
    That is a great milage, nyccarguy!!!! My wife is driving it mainly city and the trip computer shows 17.4 miles/gallon. I dont remember checking what the highway milage is, but yours is not bad at all. I hope you are happy despite the expensive Super gasoline. My VW Rabbit gets about the same milage (25-26) with regular gas. Ours is 2006 and the lease is up in 8 months. We still have not decided whether to keep it or turning it in. With the gas prices and all....but it has been a wonderful experience so far. Not a single problem. Still shines like new!!
  • imgdocimgdoc Posts: 30
    I will not use regular again. I tried once and the poor bimmer had such a hard time starting the next morning. I almost gave up. It took about 5-6 times cranking with pausing after each attempt. I did not think it will be that bad. That's the only time this happened so I am pretty sure it is the regular gas.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    from a 400 mile NY to MA road trip where the X3 performed brilliantly. 24.5 mpg according to the car's trip computer I kept it between 65 & 70 mph on cruise control). It swallowed 2 days worth of gear for my wife, myself, & our 20 month old son with ease.

    We just took my wife's 65,000 mile X3 2.5 on a somewhat longer trip and it averaged 24.9(manually calculated; the OBC figure is @5% optimistic) at an average speed of around 80 mph. That number was obtained with two adults, two 13 year old boys, and a cargo hold stuffed full of luggage. It is an extremely pleasant cruiser, but the handling is still sharp enough that I can embarrass more than a few performance cars when the road turns twisty.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • Recently purchased cpo 2006 X3 with 25k miles, salesperson advised 89 (midgrade) octane minimum. "...anything less will burn up the catalytic converter..." was his quote. Eliminating all other variables (performance, fuel economy, economics, recommended vs. required, etc.) - my question is this and only this: Would fulltime use of sub-89 octane do any damage to the catalytic converter? Yes or no.
    I'm most interested because this vehicle is still under factory warranty.
    I will still take all other factors into account when I make my octane decision at the pump. I just don't want to make that decision based on a salesperson's claim without further evidence. If climate makes a difference - this vehicle is driven in Florida. Thanks for your responses.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    if you read the owner's manual it says 91 octane + which is high test.

    What color combo did you get? How much did you pay? What was the asking price?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    Using 89 octane fuel instead of 91 octane will save you something like 15-20 cents per day. Use what BMW's engineers call for-91 octane-and don't worry about it.

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • so nobody has heard if 87 octane burns up the catalytic converter?
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,904
    So with 15,207 miles on the odometer my wife took her Montego Blue '07 X3 3.0si in for its first service. This was only the second time the truck has been back to the dealership since we took delivery on 7/31/07. Besides an oil & filter change, they replaced all 3 wiper blades and topped off her coolant (which was low, causing the idiot light on the dash to illuminate).

    I know the "free" service is built into the price of the car, but it is a really nice thing. Coupled with the long service intervals (if I owned it I would change the oil every 7500, flush the coolant & brake fluid every 2 years, the tranny fluid every 3 years... Just like they used to before "free" maintenance) makes these cars great to lease.

    Now besides the free service, the best part about taking the X3 in to the dealer was the loaner car provided :shades: . My wife was instructed to call me immediately and let me know what the loaner car was. Low and behold it was an '08 335xiA. After dinner I promptly volunteered to install our 21 month old son's car seat (which was to be followed by a short test drive). This car is scary fast. I came away from my extended test drive (from our place in Westchester, NY up to my best friend's place in Norwalk, CT) blown away by the N52's performance. You can pass any car at any time with a quick stab of the gas pedal (half way). On one ramp that goes from an eastbound highway (I-287) to a northbound highway (I-95), I floored the gas pedal while merging and blew past 2 tractor trailers. I looked down and noticed I was going over 100 mph. Like I said, scary. But what a ride!

    There's a saying among car guys: "You can never have too much power." The N52 doesn't have too much power, but it has enough.

    I don't drive like a lunatic. I take twisty roads at a nice clip when they're empty. I usually double the speed of exit ramps. If I'm running late for something and have to get there, I make up for the lost time. Most days I loaf my way home at around 60 mph with the cruise control set (especially now since gas is $4.57 a gallon). a twin turbo 135i or 335i would turn me into a complete hooligan. I'd probably have to see if I could pre-purchase speeding tickets in bulk from Westchester County, New York State, and The City of New York. Just give me a stick and a sport suspension on a 128i or 328i and I'd do just fine.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,781
    My dealer(Swope BMW, Louisville) also provides nice loaners, but-since it's my wife's car- my service advisor gears them to what she likes- hence we've received an X3 3.0 Sport(my son liked the ///M steering wheel and sill guards), an X5 3.0si, and a 528xi. I think I could live with a 328i coupe with a stick and SP, but the same money can get you a very nice E46 M3- maybe even with the Competition Package. My service advisor is also tempting me with his pristine Dakar E36 M3 coupe. If I bought that I'd have more than enough money left over to upgrade the speakers, buy a set of track tires and wheels, and fit the TMS/Conforti Stage II Performance Package. :D

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Posts: 5,102
    The folks who claim to know, would disagree -- you will NOT save any money, per day. You will cost yourself per day, due to the fact that you will use more fuel to achieve the same performance.

    The BMW engine in the X3 is "optimized" for premium.

    It will run sub-optimized (and cost more) if you use regular or mid grade. What we are talking about is a false economy.

    Using gas that is higher in octane than your engine requires is a waste of money. Using gas that is lower in octane than your engine requires makes it cost more to drive than if you used what it has been optimized to run on.
  • "...my question is this and only this: Would fulltime use of sub-89 octane do any damage to the catalytic converter? Yes or no."

    still no info. out there anywhere about catalytic converter damage?

    random comment: my 20+ year old Audi had 4 knock sensors and it optimized itself to run on whatever octane level i chose to put in the tank.
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