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Acura TSX Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • abcinvabcinv Posts: 6
    I contacted four dealers through email and calls after I knew who the internet managers were. Ed Voyles, Nalley, Baranco and Sutton Acura. Sutton never called me back with a price at all! Baranco had the lowest INITIAL offer but would not budge at all. But that was fine, I had Nalley Acura and Ed Voyles competing from there on out. Both of these internet managers were great to work with. Try to keep in mind it was the last weekend of the month and raining. That combined with the knowledge I gathered from this site, there was no way I could go wrong. It got real crazy at the end for me. I don't have nerves of steel and was ready for it to end. Let me know if you want names, OFFLINE of course...
  • jet1234jet1234 Posts: 16
    If you don't mind me asking, what was your out-the-door price? Did you shop around other dealerships in the NoVA area?
  • Acura Carland in Duluth Ga is a Precision Team Dealer--great prices and customer service- I had a good experience
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    Going by the usual 20% depreciation in the first year there's no way you should pay more than 22K for that car. I'm sure that person wouldn't get more than 20K on a trade in.
    In another 2 months the car will be officially 2 MYs old (even though it could physically be even more than 2 years old) - even more depreciation.

    Next spring when the first TSXs sold start coming off 3 year leases the current unusually high resale prices will come down to more reasonable levels.
  • jg88jg88 Posts: 59
    For an '04 TSX that would sell new ('05) for 25,500, my top offer would be $21,700. (That would be the max I would offer.) Since the gov't is giving us 40 cents a mile for tax purposes, on a car that has 9500 miles, 9500 x $0.4 = $3800. Reducing a new car price of $25,500 by $3,800 comes to $21,700. Or as Biker4 writes, no way to go over 22K. Matter of fact, when the '06's come out, it lowers the '04's even more.

    Personally, I may be looking for an '04 TSX auto in Red or Meteor with less than 15000 miles on it in Oct-Dec timeframe and expect to pay somewhere in the neighborhood of $19.5K or less. Otherwise, I'll look for a new '05 around then for dealer cost. Am losing my company car so am going to be getting into the market and so far, the TSX is the front runner.
  • laineylainey Posts: 62
    A little confused. Could you clarify the 40 cent a mile comment? Thought the tax breaks were on "Green" cars only. Or is this something to do with your employer? I'm curious because I am gearing up to start dealing on a CPO soon. :confuse:
  • laineylainey Posts: 62
    How many recent Acura buyers have had dealers try to pull this on you??

    Get this...Goodson Acura in Irving Texas is trying to tell me that this $599 on my quote is valid! I assume that all cars leave the factory with VIN etching. And even if they don't, Police departments will do it for free. I told them no other Acura place has added this. The message on my machine tried to indicate that they all would. They must think I'm an idiot. As far as I can tell, this is some scam about "registering" your etched I.D.# or VIN for a "cash award over what your ins. co. pays if not returned in 30-days if stolen" theft insurance or some garbage like that. Whatever. Should I deal with this via email now while I'm in the quote gathering process, or at the paper signing stage if they end up with the lowest pre-tax/fee price? I might have to pull out the big guns if they continue...A car dealer relative. ;)

    With a market as big as Texas, and with at least a dozen other Acura places within a couple of hours driving or and hour and a half max on a $75 flight, they need to give up the con. I'll go where the best deal is.
  • Thanks to all for the replies. I wonder why the prices quoted by KBB and Edmunds are so darn high? Are people really paying that much? The numbers quoted by you (jg88) and biker4 seem more in line with what they should be...kinda makes you wonder where they get their numbers. What do ya think...acura conspiracy? ;) Keep the used car prices high so you will buy new ones.
  • kream85kream85 Posts: 2
    Yeah, i did but if u buy the car in MD you save .17% sales tax also, oTD was 26,250 but i got the exterior,undercoating and rustproofing for na additional 700.
  • I am trying to decide between an Accord 4dr 3.0 EX w/leather/XM and a TSX (The Accord sold in Europe and Japan. Looks is the only difference and this is somewhat important but there is no difference in performance, reliability and safety. There is an important consideration for the Accord since it is assembled in the US and thus one would help to keep jobs here. In addition, there is the uncontestable historical fact on the side of the Accord. Consumer reports rate the Accord EX (v4 or v6) over the TSX.
    I have obtained the following quotes for the Accord:
    Accord 4dr 3.0 EX w/leather (v4)--21,682
    Accord 4dr 3.0 EX w/leather/XM(v6)--23,923.

    The EX v4 was more than 6,000 shipper than the TSX (26,800). Is "the looks" worth 6K of hype?

    I have seen post on this forum of people driving the TSX out of the lot for 25,800. So your quote, like mine, is inflated. We must stop the hype about the TSX and drop its price down.
  • delmar1delmar1 Posts: 744
    I believe he was referring to the standard govermental mileage reimbursement rates...which corporations generally use for employees submitting expense reimbursement requests.

    BTW....the exact rate is $0.405.
  • drewbadrewba Posts: 154
    Based on your listed prices, the difference is actually just over 5,000 not 6,000. Anyway, there are also many differences between the TSX and 4 cylinder Accord EX w/leather other than just looks. The ones that comes to mind are:

    -40 HP
    -Vehicle stability assist
    -An extra 1 year/14,000 miles of warranty
    -HID headlights
    -Sportshift (manumatic)
    -More powerful stereo (allegedly 360 watts vs. 120 watts)
    -Power passenger seat
    -Homelink (integrated garage door opener)

    On top of all those, the TSX does look way better IMHO. I drove the Accord and it was a nice car, but after driving the TSX, everything about it felt like a step up. As to if the looks, feel and additional features are worth the $5,000 gap, that is a very personal decision. When I bought my TSX, the gap was about $4,000 and I thought the difference was worth it.

    Assuming that $26,800 quote is before TTL, it does sound a bit high, but you have to remember supply and demand. Cars sell for less in some areas of the country (California comes to mind). Other people are quoting out-the-door prices from areas with little or no sales tax, which isn't necessarily a valid comparison point for other states.
  • ronabironabi Posts: 39
    Go to Vandergriff in Arlington. I don't think you'll have that trouble. The main thing to watch there is negotiation on a trade-in and attempts to sell add-on services (but not a hard sell, just decline) when you have made a deal and get to the financial guy. Make your first contact with the Internet Manager. I bought an 05 non-nav w auto there in December for invoice and they included tint and wheel locks for no added charge.

    Good luck.
  • jg88jg88 Posts: 59
    I was using the standard Gov't reimbursement rates as the multiplier for mileage on a used car. If it's good enough for the IRS, it's good enough for me. One might argue that it depends on the car, but to me, the TSX is an averge priced car so the logic of appying the 40 cents a mile rate should be OK. Also, as a buyer, I will apply as many reasons as I can to "help" the seller lower the price. As a seller, I would use Edmunds and KBB all day long to try to inflate the price as much as possible.

    Maybe you can all tell that I have no qualms about buying a used Acura -- have done so in the past. Bought a '96 RL in '99, sold it in '04 after having put over 100,000 miles on it and figure I saved over a third to a almost a half of buying a new RL in '99. To me, the Acura Certified program was a great experience. Most of the loss in car value occurs in the 1st 3 years and stabilizes from years 3 to 6/7, then drops after years 7/8 again (depending on mileage). Since I'm in the 4th phase of my second mid-life crisis, something sporty and shiny seems pretty good to me -- a red TSX, or maybe the meteor color. The Meteor Silver seems to have a very nice bluish tint to it.

    BTW, as much as I like the v6 accord, which is lot; and having driven one -- it is not as much fun as the TSX nor is does it have as many goodies. Also, a one-year old TSX will have almost the same warranty coverage as a new Accord and can be had for about the same price as the v6 w/ leather so maybe there is an alternative to the cost discrepancy. If the price is fairly equal, then buy the car you prefer based strictly on merit.
  • rbevz67rbevz67 Posts: 69
    also:

    17 vs 16 inch wheels

    perf leather vs. non-perf
  • al63017al63017 Posts: 149
    Accord vs TSX--faced same decision. my best price on ex accord 4cyl w leather was 22,5k TSX was 25.9k but that ended up including the wheel locks, floor mats, splash guards. So I looked at a one year old accord and one year old TSX on kbb and found the depreciation on the Accord to be at the time the 2004 Accord was 18.9k trade in and the TSX was 22.5k. I like both cars but the difference in price seemed to be maintained at trade in time and the TSX had a few more options, longer warranty, 4 yr. 50,000 oil changes every 5000 miles and loaner car if in for service that takes longer than 2 hours. Both are great cars--like the TSX a bunch, the Accord seems a little bigger inside but will buy Honda product again some time down the road or Toyota or Nissan had great success with all three.

    The little things that helped me is I never see a TSX, love the look, and it just is a more sporty car from my perspective. These get to be personal decisions and either car will be great.
  • al63017al63017 Posts: 149
    Accord vs TSX--faced same decision. my best price on ex accord 4cyl w leather was 22,5k TSX was 25.9k but that ended up including the wheel locks, floor mats, splash guards. So I looked at a one year old accord and one year old TSX on kbb and found the depreciation on the Accord to be more---- that from just a business decision the TSX was my choice. At the time the 2004 Accord was 18.9k trade in and the TSX was 22.5k. I like both cars but the difference in price seemed to be maintained at trade in time and the TSX had a few more options, longer warranty, 4 yr. 50,000 oil changes every 5000 miles and loaner car if in for service that takes longer than 2 hours. Both are great cars--like the TSX a bunch, the Accord seems a little bigger inside but will buy Honda product again some time down the road or Toyota or Nissan had great success with all three.

    The little things that helped me is I never see a TSX, love the look, and it just is a more sporty car from my perspective. These get to be personal decisions and either car will be great.
  • jet1234jet1234 Posts: 16
    kream85, wow, that's a great price OTD. thanks for the info! I'm looking to get a TSX non-nav in about a month.
  • biker4biker4 Posts: 746
    I think it's a short term quirk - popular car with few used ones that's been out just 2 years.

    The residual on the TSX is not higher than most cars in the segement - I think around 60% at 36 mo. - meaning that the $26K TSX will be worth $15600 at lease end - next spring.
  • You are likely correct biker4. I guess we will have to wait and see how the market shakes out once the 06 arrives and the 04's start coming off of 3 year leases. I wonder how many TSX's are leased and how many of them will hit the market. I think it will take a high number of them hitting the market at once to drive the used prices down to more reasonable numbers.
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