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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan

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  • rj123456rj123456 Posts: 128
    Btw, is the mirror easy to replace as a DIY? Does anyone have instructions or gotchas to share?

    Thanks in advance!
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    I replaced my mirror on my Olds Intrigue. Very easy to do. Most cars are similar. The key is finding the location of the screws, normally 2 or 3. One is normally "hidden" on the inside latch. Then it is a matter of using a screwdriver or knife to pry the door panel from the frame. Once the panel is off, unplug the electrical connector and unscrew the mirror. Then do it in reverse to install the new mirror. it will tkae you 15 minutes, start to finish. Again the key is finding the screws to undo the door panel.

    Good luck.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    It's supposed to get a styling update and available stability control.
    Maybe the 3.5 V6 will be available.

    I wonder if it will get this new Ford design element?

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  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    The 3.5 will be available but it's not clear whether the refresh will appear next year or the year after. Probably won't know for sure until LA or Detroit Auto Show.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Igor (the author of that article)and I have conflicting inside sources. Mine said it was delayed and his source got scared and clammed up. That why I said we really don't know yet if it will appear next year or not.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    What a great article. I own an 06 SEL V6 loaded with every option for that year. I feel cheated!! :cry: . Not really, I know how the market goes. Glad to see Ford is actually improving on something good. I look forward to my next Fusion in 2010/11. I'm going to go for the 2.5 4cyl with about 180-200HP in AWD SEL platform. I hope they do debut these changes very soon. Fall of 08 would be good ;)
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,012
    A reporter seeks to talk with owners of the 2007 or 2008 Ford Fusion or Mercury Milan who are also parents of young children. If you are interested in commenting on your experience, please reply to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Thursday, November 15, 2007 and include your city and state of residence as well as the age of your child/ren.

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  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Well, I have reached 23,000 miles on my 06 SEL V6 Fusion. Recently took a road trip and with my speed averaging 75MPH I achieved 29.8 MPG. Not bad I'm happy with that. No problems to report. Car is solid and has no rattles or squeaks. My average MPG is 24.7 around town with mixed Freeway/surface street driving. Cheers! :shades:
  • Hello all...

    What I'm looking forward to is the debut of the rumored Fusion coupe, which I believe is slated for 2009. Maybe there will be a Milan coupe also. This I'm NOT sure about. It would be interesting, speaking for myself, to finally see a Fusion/Milan coupe with AWD and the upcoming improvement of ESC. WOW!

    BTW does anyone have any idea if the new SYNC will eventually become Ford's answer to GM's OnStar, in time? I've read of such rumors elsewhere, but if this is true I seriously would consider a Ford in my future.

    Peace!<-AladdinSane-<- :shades:
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    IMHO these rumors are 98% likely to be nothing more than rumors. As long as you can buy a Mustang for $20,000 give or take, there really isn't much of a case for Ford making a Fusion Coupe. Especially since you can option up a Focus coupe to just over $20k.

    Now a FWD Mercury Coupe called a Cougar based on Fusion/Milan mechanicals that would be a GOOD IDEA.

    Mark
  • Maybe, Mark...There was a photo of said experimental coupe in an issue of Car & Driver or Motor Trend ( I forget which) about a year ago. The mag stated that such a coupe was in the works. I say was because with Ford going through it's financial turmoil at present it's hard to figure if this coupe will ever see light of day. For now who can say.

    As far as SYNC becoming Ford's OnStar type system in time I can see such a progression taking place, but it all depends on whether Ford is up to the task financially to follow through with it.

    The Mustang? Speaking for myself that isn't in the cards for a purchase.

    The redesigned Focus coupe? Maybe I would consider buying it, but I find its look unremarkable, IMHO.

    Peace!<- :shades: <-AladdinSane-
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    According to inside sources there is no Fusion coupe in the near future.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    posted artist rendition of a 2 door coupe version of the Fusion to possibly debut in 2009. With a coupe from Honda/Toyota and Nissan, I believe the writing is on the wall, Ford will build one.
    Road trip of 600miles in my Fusion V6 netted me MPG of 29.7 cruising at 70MPH! I am very happy with the MPG of this car. :)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    That was just some magazine's wishful thinking. I wouldn't count on it anytime soon - there's too many other things that need to be done first.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    The redesigned Focus coupe? Maybe I would consider buying it, but I find its look unremarkable, IMHO.

    I think Ford is dropping the ball on the Focus, just like it did with the Taurus. The Focus was a top-notch product when introduced in the U.S. as a 2000 model (we own a 2000 station wagon with 93,000+ miles on it in addition to a 2007 SEL AWD Fusion). But Ford has languished on improvements to the Focus. This a shame. The 2008s don't do a thing for me.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Boz - there is hope. The 2008 was just a stopgap to hold the Focus over until the new Focus can be engineered on a new global platform with the Euro Focus (plus Mazda and Volvo). Mulally has also told the engineers to figure out a way to make money on it. Right now Ford loses up to $3K on every Focus they make and for some reason they were resigned to that fact up until Mulally told them to go fix it. Just another reason Mulally is worth several times his paycheck.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    Boz - there is hope. The 2008 was just a stopgap to hold the Focus over until the new Focus can be engineered on a new global platform ...

    I certainly hope your assessment is correct Allen. I guess we all just have to give Mulally a fair chance to turn things around. FoMoCo desperately needs a big hit in the marketplace.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Unfortunately when you screw up something as basic as a car's platform (and by screw up I mean having multiple similar platforms globally, not that there's anything inherently wrong with the current Focus platform) it takes years to fix it, especially when you have to converge development cycles of multiple independent products.

    Obviously the 2008 Focus was "in the can" as they say well before Mulally got on board and also before Fields was fully up to speed and in charge.

    You also have to remember that the Focus is in a bad situation until the new B car arrives (another global platform faux pas). Until then the Focus has to be the low cost price leader on the dealer's lot. Once the B car arrives the Focus can better go after the Civic and Corolla head to head instead of having to battle both the Civic/Corolla and the Fit/Yaris.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    You also have to remember that the Focus is in a bad situation until the new B car arrives ...

    Are you saying that Ford is planning on an entry-level car below the Focus? I wasn't aware of this being in the works. Tell me more.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Mulally has also told the engineers to figure out a way to make money on it. Right now Ford loses up to $3K on every Focus they make and for some reason they were resigned to that fact up until Mulally told them to go fix it. Just another reason Mulally is worth several times his paycheck.

    Why...because he is ordering someone else to make the impossible happen?

    Mulally to engineers: "You...yes, you over there...make this car profitable". Mullaly then thinks "Well, my job here is done...now, what problem should I solve next with my amazing management genius..."

    If the market is such that there is a $3000 gap, good luck cutting that much out of the car or getting folks to pay that much more for it.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Yes - Ford will be selling a U.S. version of the new European Fiesta. They unveiled the Verve concept a few weeks ago:

    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/ford-verve-concept/392410/

    Fields and Mulally decided to wait for this new platform instead of trying to rebadge an existing platform that wouldn't be so suitable.

    This will go head to head with the Fit/Yaris/etc.

    Until Mulally dictated global platform sharing it was very difficult to make a business case for such a car.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Why...because he is ordering someone else to make the impossible happen?

    Who said it was impossible? I'm sure Honda and Toyota make money on the Civic and Corolla. Mulally is simply challenging not only engineering but also product marketing to identify what it would take to make the Focus profitable instead of just sitting back and saying that's the best we can do.

    I see 4 obvious things right away:

    Platform sharing. Using one platform for Europe and the U.S. should save a lot. The current C170 U.S. Focus platform is one of a kind and can't be cost effective.

    Having a B car to slot in at the lower price points, freeing up the Focus to go after higher price points and more profitable options and models.

    Right sizing production capacity (matching consumer demand) which would eliminate the huge rebates that have been necessary in the past.

    The new UAW contract which according to Ford cuts most of the manufacturing cost gap with the imports.

    The problem is nobody at Ford management was even attempting to close that $3K cost gap - they just said "that's the way it is". And that's not acceptable to Mulally.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    The market is willing to pay much higher prices for Civic or Corolla. They also have lower costs.

    Perhaps that was the way it was because of the UAW contracts...didn't they have to pay them whether they built cars or not? So perhaps they did not have the ability to "right size" production capacity???

    I believe that the last global Ford car was the Contour...this global platform thing does not sound like anything new to me. Wasn't the old platform kept for the Focus because, given that most Americans will not pay premium prices for small cars, the new european focus would have cost too much in the US?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    Yes, the previous contract paid the factory workers whether they worked or not - that's been overhauled now with limits. But health care was a far bigger problem, and that was also taken care of with the VEBA.

    Ford's previous "global car" idea was different than global platform sharing. I don't remember all the details but I've heard experts say that it's not the same idea.

    While it's true the current Focus and Fusion are cheaper than their Euro counterparts, the fact is the reason they don't share a platform is because previous CEOs never forced Ford of Europe, Ford of Australia and Ford of North America divisions to work together. They were allowed to operate like independent companies. They had separate meetings with the CEO and never shared financial details with each other. That's the first thing Mulally fixed when he walked in the door.

    Australia will take the lead on the new RWD platform for Aus and U.S. Europe has the lead on small/fwd cars and the U.S. has the lead on trucks and SUVs.

    The engineers still have to execute and the dealers have to sell the vehicles, but all of the things that were getting in their way have been removed. We'll have to wait a few years to see if it really pays off, but I'm optimistic.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Does seem kind of silly to have had divisions of the same corporation acting as if they were independant entities.

    Oh...this is a Fusion forum (I'd been thinking it was a Focus forum for some reason)....so who has the lead for the next midsize platform..or is that included in your "small/fwd" category?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    It's included - Ford of Europe has the lead for the next gen Fusion/Mondeo/Mazda6 platform. You'll still get market specific sheet metal, features, tuning, etc. just like Ford did with the Fusion and Mazda6.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    It's included - Ford of Europe has the lead for the next gen Fusion/Mondeo/Mazda6 platform. You'll still get market specific sheet metal, features, tuning, etc. just like Ford did with the Fusion and Mazda6.

    Allen,
    Sounds like a solid business plan to me. Also thanks for the link, and info, on the Verve. Odd name, I guess it rhymes with "curve." It will be really interesting to see how close the final product matches up with the concept.

    Any idea of the time frame involved for the next generation of the Fusion (Mondeo/Mazda6)? When will all of these mid-sizers get the same platform?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,688
    I don't think you'll see the new global platform Fusion until the 2012 MY. That's 3 years after the rumored 09 refresh due out next year.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Look at the Edge and the Mazda CX-9.

    Most people have no idea that these 2 CUVs are related under the skin. Most of Ford's experience with platform sharing hasn't gone so well. :(

    Example of Bad platform sharing. Ford Contour and Ford Mondeo. The Mondeo was a hit in Europe. In the US that sized car needed to sell for thousands less than the Contour did. The similar sized Ford Temp was selling for under 15k at the time.

    Lincoln LS and Jag S type. The Interior of the Lincoln had to be gutted to little better than Taurus standards to work on this Platform which was way way 2 expensive for a US Lincoln. Further the Jag sourced 3.9L V8 was totally inadequate for a car in the LS V8 price range.

    Another example. Volvo XC-90/V70 and the 500/Taurus. The car that Ford called the 500 was always planed as a Taurus replacement. The problem was that Ford could never get enough cost savings to get the 500 down into the Taurus price range. This is a really good platform used on vehicles it never should have been. The MKS will show just how good this platform can be. Further Irony? Volvo is moving away from this platform to one that is far less expensive that was devoloped off of the Mazda3/Ford Euro Focus platform.

    Mark.
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