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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan



  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    I always thought buying a front-drive "sports car" was silly. If you really care about performance, you should get a car with rear drive.

    Different strokes I guess. The "classic" SE-R was fantastic on the track after a few tweaks, as was the GTI and the Civic SI. The edge went to the SE-R because of the limited slip differential, but all were a lot of fun.

    I guess RWD can be fun if you want to go straight or sideways.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 10,992
    i agree, the keypad is a great convenience, as i prefer to not carry keys around if i don't have to.
    don't have to keep asking the kids, where are the keys?, if i want to get into the car.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    I always thought buying a front-drive "sports car" was silly. If you really care about performance, you should get a car with rear drive.

    How nice for you that you never have to make any choices between competing desires or needs. Many of us, perhaps most of us on the Edmunds boards, "care about performance," but that does not mean that we can always place it above other needs or priorities.

    Midsize sedans are masters of compromise. Relatively few people genuinely fall in love with them. But plenty of us need what they can offer, and would still like some semblance of sportiness in the driving experience. Within that group, the Fusion and Milan offer more of this than, say, a Camry with a rear spoiler. They have sharp steering response and a firmer suspension than most of their competition.

    Perhaps you'd be happier in a sports car forum, Mitch. :)
  • fjownerfjowner Posts: 6
    I have no idea but i can tell you Ford's rims are probally $$$$$$$!! Get some much nicer ones at an after market place.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 10,992
    i agree, try ebay or maybe a dedicated fusion site.
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    sales will be in the 4cyl automatic configuration. The new 3.5 V6 will come in a GT type name plate. With gas prices on the rise I would hope Ford knows not to build too many of the 3.5 versions. I just have this feeling Ford is going to announce the Fusion/Milan is going to also be built in another factory either in the U.S. or Canada.
  • petras2petras2 Posts: 104
    I noticed in the 2010 fusion brochure,you can get a Blaupunkt subwoofer as a dealer add on. Anyone purchase this and if so how's it sound?
  • fjownerfjowner Posts: 6
    Wow. An add on? They should give you two for free for what they charge for that navi. Wonder if the navi plays dvds?
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    I have used mine most of the time, and I'm not even 40 yet. I think it's a great feature, but that's only my opinion.
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    You better forget about 0-60 on midsize sedans since Obama's government put pressure on automakers to get rid of V6s in mass production cars next decade. Buy V6 while it is available - now.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    If you like the excess power, go for it. The I4s are so good these days I can't see ever needing a V6 in a car under 3,500 lbs.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    Need it? No. But here in the Land o'Plenty, if you can have more than you need, you deserve it. Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.

    By the way, the poor are poor because they are morally inferior. God loves the rich.

    Over & out.

  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731

    Yep, that's it. Just "Ha!"

  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    Glad you enjoyed it, grad.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,967
    over the weekend to drive a 2010 Fusion. I forget the trim level, but it had the V-6. This was at the Ford Nationals in Carlisle PA. Now this was just driving around in a closed test course set up in a parking lot, so I wasn't able to really get a feel for how the car would go on any type of long distance. Still, for the few minutes I was in the car, I liked it a lot.

    Is the 2010 Fusion the same size inside as the previous models? I was under the impression that it was really just a facelift and improved drivetrain/interior, but I swear the 2010 felt a little roomier inside. Maybe they gave the front seat more fore/aft travel, a steeper recline, or something like that?

    I normally like bigger cars, and my current daily driver is a 2000 Intrepid base model. I could definitely see a Fusion being a decent replacement for it, when/if the time comes. Naturally I'd want to check it out more in-depth, but I like what I've seen so far. FWIW, I never had a problem with the interior of the previous Fusion. It wasn't mind-dazzling, but it wasn't cheap either. It seemed decent for the price point. But with the new one, I really liked the way the gauge display was set up. It had an expensive look to it, and even seemed a bit futuristic!

    From what little experience I've had with it so far, I like it better than the Malibu/Aura. And compared to the Stratus/Sebring, it's no comparison. I've always been a long-time Mopar fan, but they haven't really built anything that's grabbed me in awhile now, plus they seem to have been really cost-cutting on their interiors. I do like the Charger/300 in spite of the interiors, but want to try something a bit more economical.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,931
    Have you seen the new Taurus? It's bigger and even better than the 2010 Fusion.
  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,967
    Yeah, I've seen the Taurus before at auto shows. They had one or two at this show, but you couldn't drive it. It's definitely a good looking car, and I dare say about as sexy looking as a Taurus has ever been!
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 10,992
    thanks for posting over here.
    ford has stepped up their game across several of their vehicles.
    we have an '04 escape with 200 hp duratec 3.0 v6 and 4 speed trans which has averaged 19.2 mpg over 74k miles. it is not a quiet vehicle to drive.
    my 07 fusion awd with a 221 hp duratec 3.0 v6 and 6 speed trans has averaged 22 mpg over 15k miles.
    my wife is now driving an 09 escape with a 240 hp duratec 3.0 v6 with 6 speed trans.
    after about 2k miles it is averaging 22.5 mpg. much quieter, also.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,238
    I took a look at 2010 Fusion Sport and SEL models this weekend, both AWD. Very nice cars. Haven't seen much from Ford in a long time that impressed me, but this is a great car. The Platinum white is a very nice color too. I'd probably go with the SEL myself, but certainly see a lot to like in the sport. I'm curious to see how they do real-world mpg.
  • carqnacarqna Posts: 1
    Hey all. Test drove Fusions this weekend, and we were really impressed. Kind of fell in love with the Sport. I was wondering though, since it has a different engine than the other Fusions, what we could expect as far as reliability goes? Is the engine in the Sport used anywhere else?

    Looked at the Fusion because of its high reliability marks, and just am wondering whether we'd be negating that by going with the different engine.

    Thanks for your thoughts!
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    The 3.0 Duratec has been around for a very long time, solid engine. The 2.5 is just the 2.3 that has been bored out some and the exhaust/intake changed if I remember reading. The only really "new" engine is the 3.5. My guess there is no real data yet since this engine has only been around for about a year in other vehicles. Get on the net and find out if any TSB's or issues have popped up. The internet is a great place to find real information from real consumers.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    The 3.5L V6 in the Fusion Sport is also used in the Flex, the Edge, and the 2008-09 Taurus, as well as the Lincoln MKZ and MKX. It's based on the Duratec 30, which is the 3.0L V6 used as an option in other Fusions. While the 3.5 version has been available for only two years, the Duratec 30 was first offered as an optional upgrade on the Taurus way back in 1996. So it's a pretty good bet.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Just a bit of (probably useless to you) anecdotal evidence, but my parents who have an '08 Taurus talk about the engine in the Taurus all the time (only Sync is talked about more); the smooth torque and the seamless transmission. Given, they have less than 15,000 miles on the car, which they bought last June, but haven't had any recalls or TSB performed on the car... something that couldn't be said of the other car in their garage, a 2007 Honda which has been afflicted with suspension problems that have them on the third set of tires in two years.

    I drive an Accord myself, and love it, but if something happened to it, a Fusion would be high on my list based on Ford's recent showings of reliability and engineering advancements, very possibly the 3.5. :)
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    yesterday I saw a new black Fusion on the road, and I noticed that chrome piece and the center brake light was ridiculously huge and unnecessary on the trunk lid. And that brake light seemed like an after thought. Just my opinion.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Could one of you answer this question on the Nav unit in the 2010 Fusion. When looking for a place to eat can I click on the POI's and chose restuarants or whatever they call it and then chose type of food or ALL and will it then start giving out a list of places to eat from the nearest to you to farther away or do I also need to know the name of the eating place?
    Also can you use the Nav unit as in making changes etc. while the vehicle is moving or is it like GM and require you to stop first?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,931
    You must stop to enter a destination but you can do everything else while moving. You can call up previously saved addresses from the address book.

    As for restaurants - you can actually just say "I'm hungry" and get a list of restaurants. I believe you can also limit it by the type of restaruant with voice commands as well.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Thanks for the answer
  • petras2petras2 Posts: 104
    I considering a fusion "s" purchase, (like the wheels more than the ones on the se). I don't know if the base radio that comes with it is "satellite ready"..has anyone had a dealer install a satellite receiver to their base "s" model?
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    I was at the dealership having my transmission fluid changed and decided to walk the lot. Came across a 2010 Fusion Hybrid in black. As I was going over the car a sales person came over of course. I told him right away I was having my 06 Fusion serviced and was just curious. He offered a test drive of the Hybrid. I jumped at the chance. Wow, This car was very quiet, very solid, very well engineered. I could not feel when the engine or the electric engine was on, the only way was the dash readout. The interior fit/finish was superb. If I were in the market, this car would easily be at the top of my list for a replacement of my 06 Fusion. This car is going to be in very high demand.
  • kev22kev22 Posts: 2
    Hi =)

    I am planning to buy either a Fusion I-4 SEL fully loaded or a Milan I-4 Premier fully load (both without navigation). Fusion comes out to approx. $26,500 and Milan to approx $27,000. Therefore I am asking, regardless of price, which car is better?

    I have done research and the engines, specs, features, and dimensions are the exact same to precise detail (length, width, etc.), but besides for the looks I cannot find any differences between these cars (virtually). I checked out the fusion at several dealerships and its a very well designed car but I am just curious to whether the Milan is any better being that Mercury is supposed to be a more luxury associated brand. In addition, does anyone who has test drove both cars in I-4 version notice any difference between ride quality of either cars (same engine), just curious...though I'll probably find out myself in a couple of days.

    If someone could help me out with a comment it would be greatly appreciated.

    Also just curious of which car (with same features and all) everyone else thinks is better. The 2010 Fusion or 2010 Milan?
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