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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan



  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    The opposite situation would be more likely, I think...a company with a poor reliability record offering a long warranty, that is what Hyundai did. Right now, I'd think Toyota would be more likely than Ford to feel a longer warranty could help them sell more cars. I think GM would be a better candidate to do this than Ford. If either of those companies did it then Ford might feel they had to match them.

    The only recent changes for full warranties that I am aware of have been the other direction, both Mazda and VW went to 3/36 (they formerly had 4/48).
  • frida2frida2 Posts: 1
    I drove a Honda Civic for 8 years and adored it until I totalled it in March. Never thought I'd buy a Ford, but I must admit I love my 08 Fusion SEL V6 more than my Honda. I have 50,000 miles on it. I get amazing mileage on long distance trips and one of my favorite features is the SYNC system. My only complaint is a noise my mechanic can't figure out that occurs when I hit bumps. Thinks it's the suspension but can't find a problem unless I start spending money and replacing parts to track it down. Would buy another one in a heartbeat. :)
  • xmechxmech Posts: 90
    I guess you've looked into the cracked subframe issue? I think there was a TSB or something out about that.
  • podpod Posts: 176
    edited August 2010
    Many find the inclination of the new headrests difficult to adjust to. Some have even decided against a ford product based on this issue. One solution (which, it must be stressed, obviates the protective function of the original headrests) is to pinch the two retaining caps at the seat top, remove the headrest altogether and then put it back into the same holes but in reversed direction. This tilts it way back and out of the way. Incidentally it greatly improves rear visibility (if, like me, you are the type who actually looks through the rear window when backing). Try it. You may like it. The downside? If you are in a rapid decceleration head-on accident and you survive the forward pitch into the air bag, you may snap your head off on the rebound. I don't remember seeing that many loose heads on the road in years ago when older cars did not offer such "protective" headrests. Like most solutions there are tradeoffs.
  • desgnrdesgnr Posts: 19
    What i do is Tilt the seat back & i have plenty of headroom
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,931
    It's not just Ford - all new vehicles have to meet the new requirements and most seem to be just as bad as the Ford implementation.

    The new Explorer says that it offers a 4-way adjustable headrest which can only mean the ability to adjust the angle. This should solve the problem once it makes it into the other new vehicles.
  • podpod Posts: 176
    I don't think the issue for most critics of the headrests is headroom (i.e. vertical clearance between your head and the headliner). I am six feet tall and have no issue there even with the moonroof. It is the forward tilt of the headrest which forces your back into an exaggerated forward curve that actually prohibits full contact between your back and the seatback. My back complained after an hour in the car and I never have had back issues.
    In the reversed headrest position you can achieve full contact with the seatback and, at the same time, achieve a vertical seating posture. I prefer a straightback chair whether in a car or at home; in the car I feel more responsive and with better sightlines when I am sitting with the back almost vertical. Different strokes for different folks.
    I may even fashion a beanbag or memory foam pillow to velcro on the reversed headrest so that my head can sense some support with the new headrest position. I don't understand how these new headrests are safer than ones whose forward edge is aligned vertically with the seatback rather than protruding forward and requiring the "C" shaped spine. Volvo used to advertise about active head restraints but these are clearly passive. They don't move at all when loaded. I know that Ford and others are required to provide these by the automobile safety board but I don't get the benefit compared to ones that would be slightly more vertical.
    By the way the Milan is a great value and quiet ride. I don't hold the headrest issue against Ford but I am glad that the fix is quite simple.
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    Many find the inclination of the new headrests difficult to adjust to.

    It is not actually a "head rest." It is a head restraint.

    It is designed that way so as to maximize resistance to an acceleration-extension injury to the cervical spine in a rear-end accident. This is actually a salutary feature.

    You will get used to it. More and more manufacturers are adopting it.
  • skibry1skibry1 Posts: 174
    For one to achieve maxium protection is to have support at least to the top of ones
    ear.Does spinning the headrest still provide optimum protection??
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    edited August 2010
    The horizontal distance from your head to the restraint is a factor too.

  • koho955koho955 Posts: 97
    After test driving everything in it's class such as the Honda, the Camry.......I chose the 2010 fusion SEL. It was by far the quietest and best driving of them all. I now have 9,000 miles and I do have a few complaints. The seats/headrests are very uncomfortable for most short or long drives. There is no handle above the drivers door but there is one on the other 3?????
    The car is fast (I have the V6) once moving and drives wonderfully on the highway but stop and go driving is brutal. The transmission shifts horrible in stop and go driving.
    This is my first American car ever and I am 50. For my $350 lease payment (0 down, 15K miles per year, 39 months) the car is pretty darn nice especially compared to the Camry and the Accord V6's!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,931
    Check with the dealer - there is a TSB for the transmission.

    You don't need a handle for the driver - you should have both hands on the wheel.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    I have 2010 Fusion SE V6. I bought a tapered cushion for the seat and it works. I do not have any problem with the transmission. I do not like electrical assist steering.
    Otherwise the car is great for the price.
  • koho955koho955 Posts: 97
    Pretty sad that you had to run out and buy a cushion for your new car seats!
  • prigglypriggly Posts: 642
    Spinning the head restraint reduces the protection somewhat.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    It is sad but it was an easy fix. More worrisome was a transmission recall and a loose battery terminal for the car fresh from the factory.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    edited August 2010
    sounds like seat comfort was not a factor in buying the vehicle.
    could have been the same thing with any other brand, depending on their priorities.
    the transmission issue is not a recall. recalls are safety related.
    the TSB is a customer satisfaction issue.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    the loose battery connection is a dealer issue. trust me, i had the same thing happen to me.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    Why "the loose battery connection is a dealer issue"? The battery is installed at the factory, isn't it?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    i have bought quite few new cars. the battery is usually disconnected and reconnected during the new vehicle preparation process.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    Thank you, explorerx4,
    I did not know that the cars come to the dealership with disconnected battery. If you have a Fusion, what is your opinion of the car?
  • desgnrdesgnr Posts: 19
    2010 Mercury Milan Tuxedo Black Metallic
    I got a rough scratch on the front bumper coming off a high curb.
    Is there anyway i can repair this myself ?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    The battery is connected when delivered from the factory, but is disconnected and hopefully reconnected prior to delivery.
    My fusion is an 07 SEL AWD model. I call it my poor man's Subaru. :) It's pretty solid and smooth, but you can see the penny pinching in places.
    Have averaged a bit over 22 mpg over 30k miles.
    I just got it back after letting one of my kids drive it all summer.
  • lehrer1lehrer1 Posts: 54
    Thank you.
    Mine is 2010 Fusion SE V6 3.0L and I am happy with it.
    It is strange and expensive to produce two similar engines 3.5L and 3.0L at the same time from the view point of manufacturing.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,931
    The 3.0L has been around for a long time and the 3.5 is going into lots of other products. I think it was kept around until the smaller ecoboost engines arrive (like the new 2.0L which produces similar power with better fuel economy).
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 11,000
    i think it is sort of a capacity issue. the 3.0 is also used in the escape.
    there may only be so many 3.5's that can be produced.
    btw, we have an 04 escape with basically the 3.0 as my '07 fusion.
    we also have an '09 escape with the same 3.0 in your fusion.
    the '04 escape has averaged 19.2 mpg's over 81k miles and the '09 is averaging 21.8 over 18k. the '09 has 40 more horsepower.and also has the 6 speed transmission.
  • newowner10newowner10 Posts: 227
    I had the same thing happen. There is a turrtle wax that is tinted black and comes with a wax stick that looks like lipstick. It is good for the lower area on the front.,1,4,5
  • podpod Posts: 176
    Last two fills show 33.3 mpg which is an improvement from the initial 31.9 mpg. Mixed driving, 20% highway;70% suburban; 10% city. The refuel warning seems to come on at a little over 15 gallons fuel used. Since the tank capacity is 17.3 it would appear that Ford has built in a very generous buffer supply at about 2 gallons.
    Car is quiet and smooth and I don't notice significant power difference from prior V6 but I have not put it to heavy acceleration maneuvers yet since the engine is still under 2K miles. The MPG gauge is pretty accurate and seems to indicate that at 65-70mph on highway the mpg will aproximate 35 mpg. Since the Ford manual discourages calculating MPG until there are 1-3K miles I expect these numbers to improve as the car loosens up.
    A Theory: The people that get the highest MPG performance from their car without hypermiling are the same one who get 80,000 miles before a brake job is necessary. It is amazing to me how many people use the brake often for no obvious reason except that they don't look more than one car ahead and are surprised by every change in their immediate visual field. Obviously the less you use the brake the less you will need to accelerate to keep in flow and the better your MPG. You save money on both ends: better fuel economy and fewer brake jobs over the course of years.
  • xmechxmech Posts: 90
    The refuel warning seems to come on at a little over 15 gallons fuel used. Since the tank capacity is 17.3 it would appear that Ford has built in a very generous buffer supply at about 2 gallons.

    This is my only complaint about my Fusion. What good is that extra 2-3 gallons of fuel if you dare not use it? I'd rather it told the truth. Still, it has plenty of range, I've gone 430 miles once and only filled 14.5 gallons. I just think it's a waste if capable of more.

    Anyone want to try and see how many more miles you can really go after it says 0 miles to go? :P
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    I see a lot of people having to frequently use their brakes on the freeway because they are tailgating the car in front of them. Because they leave so little room they have to brake frequently, they can not just coast for a moment to adjust to slight changes in speed by the car they are behind.

    But I think going 80,000 miles on front brakes is also dependent on where you drive. To go that far you would probably need to do a lot of freeway driving (without tailgating and riding your brakes).
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