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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan

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  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    edited September 2010
    10 Sport, same thing with the folding seat, the Flex does too. Since Mercury is going bye bye, wont be long when you will be able to get great deals on that line.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    edited September 2010
    Since Mercury is going bye bye, wont be long when you will be able to get great deals on that line.

    I doubt it. The market system will not allow the Milan's price to drop below that of a comparably equipped Fusion, since the two are functionally identical. Right now there's only a couple hundred dollars difference in most cases anyway. So don't expect to pick up a Milan Premier for significantly less than a comparable Fusion SEL.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    Mercury has $1500 in dealer cash available now. But they're not going to build a bunch of them so they won't be piled up on dealer lots so I don't expect the deals to get much better except maybe on a few oddball leftovers.
  • I am getting a new company car and must decide between the following 3 vehicles:
    1. 2011 Jetta Sportswagen S
    2. 2011 Ford Fusion SE
    3. 2011 Nissan Altima 2.5S

    I will keep the vehicle for 3 years or around 75K miles. Which would you choose between these 3 cars? Gas mileage isnt a concern. I do have a wife and 2 kids who will be taking a few trips a year in it with me as well as riding around town in it. Thanks for any input.
  • xmechxmech Posts: 90
    Fusion!!! Because I have one. :shades:

    Kidding! (Sort of...) Of course I'd be biased, but the Altima was on my short list when shopping, just the salesmen were SUPER pushy, and that dealership is like the only game in town, so they got checked off the list.

    Volkswagons never made my list due to higher prices and lower reliability from what I read, but I guess price is not that important on your list.

    I'll just say I'm very satisfied with my 2010 Fusion SE. Quiet, roomy. Had to adjust the seat right to be comfortable, though. That was an issue at first, but it's perfect now. The I-4 has plenty enough power, as I don't think my 4 door sedan is a race car. It will get up and go for the passing lane. Like the Sync. I also like that the Fusion is less common on the road than Altimas and Camrys and such.
  • I like everything about VWs except their repair costs and initially higher price. Since neither of those will matter to you, I'd take the opportunity to have the Jetta wagon. Lots of utility and european handling.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    The Fusion as I have the Hybrid plus it is an American Manufacturers car which helps this country. Why should I support another countries economy and schools, they sure don't help us.
  • The Fusion as I have the Hybrid plus it is an American Manufacturers car which helps this country. Why should I support another countries economy and schools, they sure don't help us.

    The people in my state manufacturing Mercedes-Benz SUVs, Honda Odyssey, Pilot, and Ridgeline light-trucks, and Hyundai Sonatas and Santa Fes sure beg to differ. Tax dollars from those incomes benefit me as a taxpayer in the state of Alabama as well

    This belongs in the news and views forum, however, doesn't it?
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    edited September 2010
    Depends on how much your gov. gave up to get them there. Most likely 10 to 20 yrs. in tax givebacks etc. Bottom line many billions will/went back overseas where as if it would have been american car they would have stayed in this country. Of course if something ever happened and there was another big war I'm sure your car companies would step up and build war goods like all the american car companies did during WW1 and 2.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    You do remember that the Fusion is built in Mexico, don't you?
  • acdiiacdii Posts: 753
    You do remember the many thousands of illegal mexicans working in this country sending our money to mexico. This can be argued back and forth til the sun disolves. A larger percentage of the car sales goes back into the US economy. The other 2, GM and chrysler also have plants in other countries, including canada, but the bottom line is the money still stops here. Foriegn car sales, the money stops in the country the car manufacturer calls home.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    I'd say the money ends up in the hands of the stockholders, who are all over the world.
  • This can be argued back and forth til the sun disolves.

    Not here. We have other forums for that. If this keeps up, the hosts will force us to move the conversation anyway. Just sayin'... :shades:
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    edited September 2010
    Exactly, Grad. That was the point I was trying to make to dmathews3, albeit clumsily, by noting that the Fusion is no more "American" than the Camry et al. Making any automotive decision on the basis of where the car is made, or where the parent company is headquartered, no longer makes sense in a global economy, unless it has the potential to disrupt the supply of replacement parts (which aren't necessarily made in the same country where the finished product is assembled).
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I have no facts but from what I've read most of the Big 3 stockowners are in America with a lot of them being your retirement investors. BMW stockowners for example I'm again guessing most are from Ger. or other nearby Europiean countries. I just wonder how much of your stock whether your personal or 401 or other retirement is in BMW or those other car companies in your state? Again, how about American companies who do business with the Big 3.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Stockholders get dividends, employees on the assembly line get paychecks as do the employees working in engineering and design, suppliers get paid for parts and pay their employees and stockholders with some of the money, employees working at dealerships get paychecks too. It's a big world and a complicated economy.

    Since I don't resent folks in other countries having jobs, I do not care where any car I buy is assembled, where the parts come from, or where their headquarters is and I most certainly don't care where the shareholders live.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Maybe your grandkids will be able to find a job in one of those countries when they grow up.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    I have no facts but

    'nuff said.
  • Is this helping determine whether or not the Fusion is an adequate car (it likely is) for the OP's needs?

    NO.

    For the love of all things automotive PLEASE move on. :sick: THIS IS NOT THE PLACE for this conversation.
  • Click me!

    As good as the current Fusion is, this'll only make it better.

    Don't know why it won't be available until '13, seems kinda long just to create a US version of a current car.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,699
    I just posted this in the midsized sedans 2.0 topic:

    They had to merge the development schedules of both vehicles - the U.S. Fusion and the European Mondeo. Even thought it might be a 2013 model it will probably debut around March of 2012 which is only 18 months away.

    This is all part of Ford's global platform campaign - build one vehicle and sell it everywhere just like the Fiesta and the upcoming 2012 Focus due in March.

    Don't expect the new Fusion to look exactly like that. These are Mondeo testing mules. They wouldn't be showing the new body style now. Given what they were able to do with the Fiesta and Focus I expect a similarly stunning design.

    It's also very likely that the next Taurus will be built on this platform (stretched and/or widened). And the new Fusion will likely only offer 4 cylinder engines including at least one ecoboost (direct injection turbo) model.
  • urnewsurnews Posts: 668
    Thanks for the update Allen. Much appreciated.
  • My mom is 77, and doesn't need one presently, but I'm about to do a 3 year lease on a 2011 Ford Fusion, and it just occurred to me:

    WILL A WHEELCHAIR fit in a fusion?

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • Does the NAV on a 2011 Ford Fusion speak street names (e.g. turn right on Chestnut Street as opposed to turn right in 500 feet)?

    Also, is it DVD based or does it get the maps from a persistent internet connection? (I guess it's probably DVD, because if you didn't have internet signal, you wouldn't get maps), But figured I'd ask to be sure.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • What's the ground clearance? Every search I do yields 'N/A'.

    It does seem applicable to an AWD vehicle.

    Thanks,
    Mike
  • xmechxmech Posts: 90
    You realiza AWD doesn't necessarily mean off-road? There are AWD Lambourghinis, and I don't mean the LM002, I'm talking Diablo, Mucielago, Gallardo. So in this case the AWD is for handling, and perhaps for slippery road conditions, but not going over obstacles.
  • Thanks for the reply.

    I wasn't planning on going off road, but will I get stuck in 4 inches of snow?

    Mike
  • Take a test drive that includes putting a wheelchair in it, perhaps. The dealer won't have a problem with it; they want the sale. It's like putting in a car seat or your bag of golf clubs; people buy a car to meet needs, you should test how well it meets the needs before purchase.

    That said, I've watched my grandparents put a full size collapsable wheelchair in the trunk of their 1997 Civic, which is a subcompact car. I'd hope the Fusion could beat that. :)

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  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    edited September 2010
    Consumer Reports' regular evaluations address this question for all tested cars. Based on their findings, a folding wheelchair should not be a problem in the trunk of the Fusion or any other midsize sedan. On the other hand, if there's any question of the ease of maneuvering a wheelchair in and out, it's worth borrowing one and trying it on each car you test-drive.
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