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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan

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  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    If I'm comparing 2 cars of course I'll use the EPA estimates. If you prefer to use other totally unscientific sources then be my guest.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    You can see the un-fudged EPA numbers if you wish to. It makes no real difference when you are comparing one car to another as the fudging is applied equally to all vehicles.

    If you want to look at "real world numbers", here are some:

    http://fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=mpgData&vehicleID=23563&browser=true&de- tails=on

    Let us know what you learn from studying these numbers that range from 13-37 mpg.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,452
    that is 1 source.
    here is another: fusion fuel mileage

    i learned you are coming around to my way of thinking, which is check multiple sources. ;)
  • Thank you so much for actually posting Ford Fusion related content and a link to a discussion group that actually discusses Ford Fusions!
  • Does anyone know when the 2010 supposed to hit the showrooms? Did anyone see the 2010 Fusion on Ebay? If you go to ebaymotors and plug in Ford Fusion, 2010 - 2010, then click on Completed Listings it shows up as having expired without being sold on February 16. The dealer selling it is Lone Star Ford of Houston.
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    I've been talking to dealers in the Minneapolis area for an early order of a 2010 Sangria Red SEL with Moon and Tune Package. The word I've heard is 2 to 4 weeks for arrivals to showrooms. Dealers have cars on order and said they can change their original order to fit my desires. The best price I've been quoted so far is: $24101.00. I hope to use that number with the dealers I talk to this weekend.
  • The ebay item is back again for the 2010 Hybrid: eBay item:Ford : Fusion (#200311872282). This time it appears to have somewhat serious bids. (28K with buy it now price of 33K).

    I'm assuming the one you are buying is not the Hybrid. Does it have leather seats?
    Do you know how your price compares to MSRP?
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    The one I'm looking at is a non Hybrid. I'm ordering black leather, 2.5L I-4, 6 speed transmission. Check www.fordvehicles.com cars, future cars and 2010 Fusion+Hybrid to see standard features for each model. The SEL is a nicely equipped car for the $$. I figured the MSRP for the SEL, Moon and Tune Order Code 301A is $26225.00 and using Edmunds TMV, dealer invoice is $24074.00.
  • Tim156,

    I live in the northern Twin Ciites area. Can you share which Ford dealers are giving you the best price quote for the 2010 Fusion?

    I was also told a non-hybrid Fusion should be arriving in the showroom during the first or second week of March.

    Kevin512
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    I got an e-mail quote from Anderson Ford in North Branch for $24101.00. Whether or not that will hold when I go to the dealership we'll see. I'm visiting three tomorrow, I'll keep you informed.
  • So Ford has their pricing up on their site for the 2010. They also finally posted V6 fuel economy and it shows the same fuel economy for both the 3 and 3.5 V6 and it's not that competitive. There is a note on the 3.0 saying to look at the fuel economy guide for exact details, but I am not finding this referenced location anywhere on the site. Any information or direction would be most appreciated.

    Thanks
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    "Fuel Economy Guide" is published by EPA

    http://fueleconomy.gov/
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    Kinda hard to comment if you don't post the numbers. I couldn't find them.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    Unfortunately fueleconomy.gov doesn't seem to list any 2010 models yet, unless they're hidden.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    The pricing info is under Future Vehicles, and I'm not sure how I got there, but here's the direct link to the "build and price" page for the 2010 Fusion:

    Build & Price 2010 Fusion
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    The footnote is only about E85

    ** Fuel economy when operating on E85 will yield different values
    than gasoline. See Fuel Economy Guide for more information.


    EPA says: FFVs operating on E85 usually experience a 20-30% drop in miles per gallon due to ethanol’s lower energy content.

    http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml

    Why is there such a big difference in mpg between the different 4 cyl trim levels? With auto there is about 10% lower hwy mpg for the SE and SEL compared to S :confuse: .

    6-speed automatic (S) 23 mpg city/34 hwy.
    6-speed manual (S) 22 mpg city/31 hwy.
    6-speed automatic (SE, SEL) 22 mpg city/31 hwy.
    6-speed manual (SE) 22 mpg city/29 hwy.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    My guess would be tires, weight and gearing.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    it shows the same fuel economy for both the 3 and 3.5 V6 and it's not that competitive.

    I don't know what you're comparing it to, but it looks competitive to me. Not great, but not terrible. 1 mpg city and 1-2 mpg hwy is pretty close.

    Fusion V6 18/27
    Camry V6 19/28
    Accord V6 19/29
  • tim156tim156 Posts: 308
    Kevin512
    I went to two dealers today. Freeway Ford quoted for a Sport Blue Metallic, SEL, FWD, 6 speed auto, Moon & Tune and remote start, $24300.98. Apple Valley Ford matched those numbers. I didn't get in trade what I was hoping for my 2007 Freestyle with 14200 miles but I like the price for the Fusion. One salesman took me to the reps house to see a fully loaded Sport. All I can say is WOW, this is one beautiful car! It's a horse apiece who I go with, so I'm going to try to get molded splash guards added for no charge and flip a coin.
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