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Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan

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  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    The 3.0 Duratec has been around for a very long time, solid engine. The 2.5 is just the 2.3 that has been bored out some and the exhaust/intake changed if I remember reading. The only really "new" engine is the 3.5. My guess there is no real data yet since this engine has only been around for about a year in other vehicles. Get on the net and find out if any TSB's or issues have popped up. The internet is a great place to find real information from real consumers.
  • stephen987stephen987 Posts: 1,994
    The 3.5L V6 in the Fusion Sport is also used in the Flex, the Edge, and the 2008-09 Taurus, as well as the Lincoln MKZ and MKX. It's based on the Duratec 30, which is the 3.0L V6 used as an option in other Fusions. While the 3.5 version has been available for only two years, the Duratec 30 was first offered as an optional upgrade on the Taurus way back in 1996. So it's a pretty good bet.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Just a bit of (probably useless to you) anecdotal evidence, but my parents who have an '08 Taurus talk about the engine in the Taurus all the time (only Sync is talked about more); the smooth torque and the seamless transmission. Given, they have less than 15,000 miles on the car, which they bought last June, but haven't had any recalls or TSB performed on the car... something that couldn't be said of the other car in their garage, a 2007 Honda which has been afflicted with suspension problems that have them on the third set of tires in two years.

    I drive an Accord myself, and love it, but if something happened to it, a Fusion would be high on my list based on Ford's recent showings of reliability and engineering advancements, very possibly the 3.5. :)
  • alman08alman08 Posts: 282
    yesterday I saw a new black Fusion on the road, and I noticed that chrome piece and the center brake light was ridiculously huge and unnecessary on the trunk lid. And that brake light seemed like an after thought. Just my opinion.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Could one of you answer this question on the Nav unit in the 2010 Fusion. When looking for a place to eat can I click on the POI's and chose restuarants or whatever they call it and then chose type of food or ALL and will it then start giving out a list of places to eat from the nearest to you to farther away or do I also need to know the name of the eating place?
    Also can you use the Nav unit as in making changes etc. while the vehicle is moving or is it like GM and require you to stop first?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    You must stop to enter a destination but you can do everything else while moving. You can call up previously saved addresses from the address book.

    As for restaurants - you can actually just say "I'm hungry" and get a list of restaurants. I believe you can also limit it by the type of restaruant with voice commands as well.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Thanks for the answer
  • petras2petras2 Posts: 104
    I considering a fusion "s" purchase, (like the wheels more than the ones on the se). I don't know if the base radio that comes with it is "satellite ready"..has anyone had a dealer install a satellite receiver to their base "s" model?
  • cannon3cannon3 Posts: 296
    I was at the dealership having my transmission fluid changed and decided to walk the lot. Came across a 2010 Fusion Hybrid in black. As I was going over the car a sales person came over of course. I told him right away I was having my 06 Fusion serviced and was just curious. He offered a test drive of the Hybrid. I jumped at the chance. Wow, This car was very quiet, very solid, very well engineered. I could not feel when the engine or the electric engine was on, the only way was the dash readout. The interior fit/finish was superb. If I were in the market, this car would easily be at the top of my list for a replacement of my 06 Fusion. This car is going to be in very high demand.
  • kev22kev22 Posts: 2
    Hi =)

    I am planning to buy either a Fusion I-4 SEL fully loaded or a Milan I-4 Premier fully load (both without navigation). Fusion comes out to approx. $26,500 and Milan to approx $27,000. Therefore I am asking, regardless of price, which car is better?

    I have done research and the engines, specs, features, and dimensions are the exact same to precise detail (length, width, etc.), but besides for the looks I cannot find any differences between these cars (virtually). I checked out the fusion at several dealerships and its a very well designed car but I am just curious to whether the Milan is any better being that Mercury is supposed to be a more luxury associated brand. In addition, does anyone who has test drove both cars in I-4 version notice any difference between ride quality of either cars (same engine), just curious...though I'll probably find out myself in a couple of days.

    If someone could help me out with a comment it would be greatly appreciated.

    Also just curious of which car (with same features and all) everyone else thinks is better. The 2010 Fusion or 2010 Milan?
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    They are built on the same assembley line by the same people and the only difference is in the inside trim and the front end pieces like grill etc. and the rear end tail light treatment. For all reasons they should be the same as far as quality etc. Only reason for picking one over the other would be price ((deal if different dealer, dealer service) and which model you like the best.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    Between the Fusion and Milan, I'd consider the Milan to have a slightly more luxury feel and style, and IIRC, option packages are arranged differently between them, but basically, that's it.

    Unfortunately, this leads to one of the fundamental problems of Mercury: struggling for it's own identity between the bread-and-butter Ford division, and the upscale Lincoln division. IMO, they should have taken a few models from the Euro line and sold them as Mercury-branded cars from Day One. I'd sure be interested in the Mondeo or the European Focus, and I'm sure that others would be as well.
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,225
    You might also consider resale value. I haven't done the math but I was thinking a few years ago the Mercury versions took a bigger hit at resale time. If you can't come up with a real distinguishing difference....I don't see any reason to pay $500 extra and then lose that plus more at trade-in time.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    I'd sure be interested in the Mondeo or the European Focus, and I'm sure that others would be as well.

    But that's exactly what they're doing for Ford. The Euro focus is already on it's way and the next gen Fusion and Mondeo will be built on the same global platform. The Euro Fiesta is also coming next year with few changes from the Euro version. You don't need a U.S. and Euro Focus, Fiesta or Fusion/Mondeo - that's too expensive and unnecessary.

    Mercury will either die a slow death or it will get unique vehicles not sold by Ford or Lincoln. And that won't be decided for a few more years. Depends on how quickly they get Ford first and then Lincoln back on their feet and how the market trends.
  • mz6greyghostmz6greyghost Posts: 1,230
    But that's exactly what they're doing for Ford. The Euro focus is already on it's way and the next gen Fusion and Mondeo will be built on the same global platform. The Euro Fiesta is also coming next year with few changes from the Euro version. You don't need a U.S. and Euro Focus, Fiesta or Fusion/Mondeo - that's too expensive and unnecessary.

    I'm aware of the future products, but my issue is why Ford didn't do this 5+ years ago, to at least establish an identity that Mercury has not had for longer than that. I also agree on the platform sharing, something that Ford should have done years ago as well.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    Ford has been talking about dumping Mercury for what ten years or so even at one point Lincoln too or instead so until they finally decide if Mercury says for the long haul I don't think you will see anything happen. Now that GM is downsizing maybe Mercury will finally become its own brand. Me personally I think the Fusion is head or heals better looking then the Milan. The Milan looks bland and boring where the Fusion in the front looks more like a baby CTS/STS.
  • kev22kev22 Posts: 2
    Thank You for the information and feedback

    This clears up any anxiety I had of choosing one car over the other, and I will most likely go with the fusion as my next car.

    Thank You again, much appreciated =)
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,622
    why Ford didn't do this 5+ years ago

    Actually they did it in 1985. It was called the Merkur Scorpio. Massive failure.

    5 years ago Mulally wasn't running the company - THAT is the difference. And he's not trying to just import European vehicles - that won't work. Using global platforms to reduce costs will allow Mercury to have unique vehicles that are different than Ford but can be sold at a profit even at low volumes.

    For the past 15-20 years Mercury has simply been a way to give Lincoln dealers more high volume ford products to sell. That won't be the case going forward.
  • savethelandsavetheland Posts: 671
    I had Taurus but chose Mercury Sable as the replacement because it had more upscale look and better interior materials. If not Mercury I would buy something other than Ford because I did not like Ford's mundane design at all.

    But now Ford get upscale with new Taurus. Mercury Sable is squeezed out by Taurus and MKS. But I think Ford makes mistake by devaluing Lincoln further. MKS should be new Mercury Sable and should cost less and Lincoln should be designed as a real luxury car, like RWD and not based on Taurus.

    I mean they spent fortunes on Jaguar and LR, so whats the problem? They can spend billions on Jaguar that does not sell and now that Jaguar is not there anymore they cannot design competitivee Lincoln? Do they have pride in own history and heritage or they are ready to waste money on brand that happens to be European and temporary owned but if it is original American brand it is simply has to die?
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Posts: 4,116
    why Ford didn't do this 5+ years ago

    Actually they did it in 1985. It was called the Merkur Scorpio. Massive failure.


    Actually, it was the '60s Ford Cortina, then the 60's-70's Mercury Capri, then the 70's-80 Fiesta, then the "world car Escort," then the Mekur XR4ti (which could spank a BMW 318 of the same era), then the previously mentioned Merkur Scorpio. That was followed by better attempts like the ConTique (which was a failure from a commercial standpoint, but the 24v V6 with a good 5 speed was a great ride), leading up to the Focus.

    Now it looks like the Fiesta, Focus, Fusion/Mondeo are coming and the 2 vans. Oh and in Europe they have the psuedo-wagon-sport-utility things (c-class or s-class or something). Maybe we will get a minivan out of it.
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