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Chrysler Pacifica Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • mig1mig1mig1mig1 Posts: 6
    Been shopping for the past month or so to replace an 98 ML320 with over 100K on it and on its last legs.

    Narrowed the choices down to the Pacifica, XC-90, ML-320, and Pilot.

    I just left the Dealer here in Los Angeles, and after test driving a Black FWD loaded with everything BUT Nav, Heated Seats, Full Sized Spare/Chromes, and U Connect, the salesman tells me that he can give me 6K off of MSRP Sticker. Salesman tells me that this particular car has 45 miles on it, and because it's been driven on test drives and the like it can be sold at as a DEMO so it qualifies for such aggressive discounting by the factory. Salesman claims that only a few cars on the lot qualify for this special program. We priced out another comparably equipped car in a different color and it was more than 4K out the door after taxes.

    The sticker on the "demo" model was around 36,500, after tax, prep and license, my cost out the door was just over 33K. I came home tonight and in the mail found an offer for a Chrysler Visa Card with a $500.00 value upon purchase or lease of a Pacifica.

    My question is.........is this a good deal? This car has gone from NO INCENTIVES to 6K off sticker in less than 30 days. Anyone know why? It's so cheap that it makes me wonder if there's some type of deeper problem that is making the manufacturer want to unload them.

    The Pacifica isn't the first choice, that would be the XC-90, but at nearly 10K less comparably equipped, it seems hard to justify going that direction.

    Is the FWD car the reason they are trying to move this car? Is the AWD really worth additional expense?

    What am I missing here? This literally seems to good to be true. Is it, or can I get an even BETTER deal by holding the line on price and hammering them harder.

    I have to make a decision by Friday evening!!!
    H E L P!!!!!
  • boiler1boiler1 Posts: 56
    Yes, I think you have a good deal. About three weeks ago I made a similar deal and have had no buyers remorse. I too considered the Pilot, XC90 as well as Lincoln Aviator ($8,000 off MSRP!) and Infinity FX35 but decided on the Pacifica. You will have a well built, feature laden vehicle for less money that will still turn heads.

    I think Chrysler just produced too many loaded versions initially with high dollar stickers that spooked their traditional customer. My guess is that as people catch on and recognize the relative value, these deals will be harder to come by. Good luck. :-)
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    I would say good deal is Invoice (check on here at Edmunds for dealer invoice) plus any rebates. that should be where you need to start at. anything over that is good. By the way, this is the first UCONNECT that I have heard installed. Was it installed? or put in afterwards by the dealer (did the button for the UConnect mounted in the rear view mirror) or was it a separate cluster mounted to the dash ????
  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 199
    Mig1, you've got yourself a great deal. I don't think you'll miss any of the options that you're not getting (chrome wheels would be nice, though, especially with a black Pacifica). Clueless: mig1 said his Pacifica will not come with U-Connect.
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    thanks for the clarification (guess I was being abit clueless ..hehehheee) ... actually love the Uconnect in my Pacifica but would have liked it even more if it was the installed option version. guess I have to wait until I trade it on a 2008 Pacifica ;)

    I saw the posting and was excited that the Uconnect is finally shipping on Pacificas. there are some benefits to the factory installed vs the dealer installed UConnect...
  • LohengrinLohengrin Posts: 84
    I just brought home a Pacifica total price after tax et al, came to $30,820.00, the original MSRP on the sticker was 35,550.00 The only incentive I got was the $6,000 off because of it being a demo...but no one drove it and there's only 37 miles on it when I took it home. I thought I was the slyest person on the planet...but it looks like I'm not the only one. I hope the car is as good as it told to be.
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    welcome to the owners group.... if I may ask what was the Dealer Invoice on your vehicle ? you can find it by going here and pricing out the vehicle with the options on it....
  • mig1mig1mig1mig1 Posts: 6
    Took the plunge this weekend on the "demo" program. Bought a nearly fully loaded Black Metallic Pacifica with everything EXCEPT Nav, Heated Seats, U Connect and a couple of other "minor" options that I can't remember.

    I checked with a couple of other dealers regarding the free Nav program that others have mentioned here--no one could tell me how you get eligible for the free nav unit, but another dealer told me that the free nav certs that were mailed to some were not good on cars put in the dealer "demo" program.

    Can anyone substantiate that. Also the dealer wouldn't give me the 1000 loyalty incentive on the demo car. Has anyone had any luck getting that with a dealer, or straight from Chrysler.

    Some initial impressions.......Car feels extremely safe, and is a pleasure to drive. Kids really enjoy the rear seat entertainment system. Overall quality seems just ok. Traded down from Mercedes to this car and the quality of materials even in a car as expensive as this one was (about $35K out the door including extended warranty) seems a bit questionable. The headliner doesn't fit taught against the interior roof line, the plastic door sils keep popping up, and there's no drivers seat rear map pocket for the 2nd row passenger to put books/paper/magazines in. It may not be fair to try and see good gas mileage, but I drove around 60 miles, filled the car up with around 5 gallons......could 12 miles to the gallon be correct? Please tell me that my mileage will improve.

    Heading over to the dealer this week to pick up the mats, bumper scuff guard and rear cargo mat that were out of stock but part of the deal.

    Not sure I'm in love with this car all the way.....much of it will depend on how attentive Chrysler will be with the minor service issues that I'll be hitting them with this week.

    Anyone out there have similar experience?
  • ms_mayorms_mayor Posts: 113
    Could it be that the headliner and door sill problems you're having are due to the 'demo' status of the car? The fit and finish of mine is excellent; no complaints.

    As for gas mileage, I really think you need to give it a little more time. 60 miles is not really enough to make a judgement. Over the course of three full tanks of gas, I am averaging 17.3 mpg over mostly local driving.

    Good luck with your purchase...I hope you enjoy it.
  • pssimonpssimon Posts: 143
    Congratulations on your purchase. I don't think you will be sorry. At about 450 miles on the car, I am getting about 20 on the highway. I expect that to go up some. I, too, have no complaints regarding fit and finish. So far, my only complaint with the entire vehicle is that the front passenger mechanical door lock button does not work. The door still locks with the electronic lock, so it is still secure. Otherwise, I'm a happy camper. I think you will be too!
  • cluelesspacluelesspa Posts: 648
    I am getting 20 highway and 15.5 on avg for city/back road driving... I would have thought with this more Car Like vehicle it would get better mileage. I got 23 highway and 19 backroads on my Highlander .. so disappointed in the gas mileage on this thing. If it had more HP at this gas mileage maybe would be more acceptable. as far as headliner issues. I think its probably due to the sunroof. I dont have a sunroof and it fits pretty good.

    yes the quality is more of the american type of materials. not the same fit and finish as an Acura or Lexus (both of which I have owned) ... like look at the rear hatch and there is a rubber strip glued on to keep the water from running in... it sometimes doesnt stick well.... I guess it is weird no pocket on driver seat. I guess they feel you will use the hooks for plastic grocery bags and it wouldnt be able to with a pocket on the back...

    Question what was the Invoice and how much did you end up paying BEFORE Taxes/Title ect. (as that varies from state to state)
  • My dealer here is now trying to unload the first four Pacificas they received back in April under a "demo" program as others have mentioned previously. Weekend ad was for $7,000 off MSRP. This definitely puts it around $3,500 under invoice based on a fully loaded type model. Example, Inferno Red fully loaded MSRP $41,400 going for $34,400. These units have been hardly driven, In fact the red one has been up on a ramp in front of the dealership, in the showroom and not even "on the lot" to be able to be test driven. I agree with a previous post that the demo units all probably have very little miles on them. I sure wish we had waited to buy our Pacifica but am thus far extremely happy with its performance and functionality for our family. I too wish it had another seat pocket behind the driver's seat. There are grocery hooks on the passenger side seat with the pocket. I at first thought they had forgotten to assemble my car correctly. LOL. Happy shopping, who knows by the end of summer if the units that they received in April are still on the lots they may be at $10,000 off MSRP. In my estimation its been going up from June at $5,000 off, to $6,000 in July and now this past weekend to $7,000.
  • rcf8000rcf8000 Posts: 619
    I looked at a Pacifica right after they first came out, and one of the rear sil plates had popped off. I tried to put it back on, but couldn't. Must be a design or production problem. Needless to say, that didn't enhance my perception of the quality of the car. I'm not sure it had ever been driven at all.
  • mig1mig1mig1mig1 Posts: 6
    My dealer told me that they too had a couple of Pacificas that were 7K off MSRP. He said that the other cars in the "demo" plan that were 7K off were in colors that were difficult to move. Seems as thought the greens and reds are not as easy to sell as the Blacks, Browns, Blues, and Silvers.

    The demo model that we purchased had only 63 miles on it, over half of which that we had put on the car in the several test drives we had given the car over the course of the week of purchase.

    The headliner that isn't fitting correctly shouldn't be a demo issue, or a sunroof issue. There's a bit of wrinkling over the second row of seats right in front of the rear seat entertainment screen. I will make a note of that with the dealer....I have no idea of what to expect as I have no prior experience with Chrysler. I do know this....that Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, etc wouldn't flinch about fixing a problem like this. That will be my standard as to how I evaluate Chrysler service.

    The rear door step sill that keeps popping off is the same story.

    I agree with everyone on this board about removing the license plate frames that advertise the dealer. That was the first thing I did when I got the car home.

    Is it just me, or am I the only one who thinks its completely LAME to not have a drivers seat rear seat map pocket. If for no other reason to have both rear passenger's seats have the same level of amenities to them. This is exactly the kind of design flaw that makes me nervous about this car.

    At least I got the extended warranty. I hope I dont have to use it.
  • ms_mayorms_mayor Posts: 113
    I don't know, call me odd, but having only one side with a rear seat pocket is no big deal. It's one less spot my kids can hide junk in. I didn't even realize there was only one pocket until after I bought it. I figured as long as each kid had their own seat, their own headset and a cupholder the backseat was well-equipped.
  • pssimonpssimon Posts: 143
    I had noticed the pocket missing behind the driver seat, but thought nothing of it as well. I, the driver. sure aren't going to be the one using it. For storage, I have what is available on the door. I'm not going to reach all the way around my seat to grab something blindly. I have to side with ms_mayor by also saying no pocket means one less place for my kids to stow trash and junk.

    As to fit and finish, I have ZERO complaints about my car. Well, ok, not zero, but really, really close! The front passenger door lock doesn't work. The electrical lock still works so the car isn't perpetually open. They'll fix it in a few weeks so no big deal.

    Other than the lock, everything is tight and squeakless, just the way I'd expect.
  • aveghteaveghte Posts: 68
    I built a FWD Pacifica with the DVD Entertainment system, upgraded stereo system, leather seats, full-size spare tire and power lift gate and came up with a MSRP of around $34500. When I attempted to estimate lease payments on the Chrysler Financial web site, the residual was displayed as $6400 whether the term of the lease was 36, 39 or 48 months. Is this an error? Does anybody know what residuals are for these vehicles? Since this is a new model year, they may be low, but this is ridiculous! I was getting monthly lease payments of over $800!

    Also does anybody think there will be changes for the 2005 model year like a 5 speed transmission that will make it worthwhile to wait a year to purchase this vehicle? I guess the good deals are available now and that it is uncertain what the future will hold, but I would like to see a new model year for Chrysler to work the bugs out before I commit to purchasing or leasing this vehicle.
  • boiler1boiler1 Posts: 56
    You should expect to see a residual of 53% of MSRP for a 36 month, 15,000 mile per year lease from Chrysler Financial as long as the car has 500 or fewer miles on the odo. Money factor should be about .0026 (6.25%). Most likely will have an acquisition fee of $550, security deposit of about one months payment and the first payment due at contract signing. If you roll these into the lease the acquisition fee goes up so it's better to just write the check up front.
  • aveghteaveghte Posts: 68
    I probably would lease for 36 months or 48 months with 12K miles per year.

    By the way, does anybody know who is eligible to receive the $1000 lease loyalty credit? I heard that previous owners of Jeeps or Chrysler vehicles or competitive vehicles are eligible.
  • b25nutb25nut Templeton, CAPosts: 199
    My guess is that Chrysler did not put a map pocket on the driver's seat because if the seat is in the Easy Entry mode and a pocket was loaded with stuff, you could end up crushing a second row passenger's legs when you turn the key off and the driver's seat slides all the way back. I think they thought of everything.
  • twoof1twoof1 Posts: 308
    The current money factor and residual for a 36 month lease on the Pacifica are as follows:
    Money factor: .00165 (3.96%)with top tier credit
    36 month residual: 53%
    These numbers are good through the end of July.
    Anyone is eligible for the $1,000.00 lease credit until 7/30/03. You do not have to be a current Chrysler owner (you need to read the small type on their website)
  • boiler1boiler1 Posts: 56
    Were those lease parameters available in June?
  • twoof1twoof1 Posts: 308
    Yes the same lease parameters applied in June and were carried over to July with no changes
  • rmhenry1rmhenry1 Posts: 4
    Wow! I hope I didn't get the best Pacifica deal, or everyone will hate me. I got mine 10 days ago and sticker was 36,250 but got it for 6000 off MSRP! Everything except navigation and sun roof. I have been thrilled with it thus far. About the only disappointment is gas mileage is below listed MPG - we got 16.4 MPG on the first tank (mostly around town), but was hoping for more. Also, acceleration could be better. Handles like a charm. No regrets.
  • foxgofoxgo Posts: 27
    I spoke to the dealership yesterday, as I am closing in on choosing the Pacifica FWD over the Volvo V70 wagon (now that my wife saw one up close in our neighborhood yesterday, and loved it!). A couple of strange things:

    a) In the posts on these boards regarding demos, everyone seems to have said that the demos available have very little mileage on them. When I inquired of my dealership, I was told that demos can have up to 5,000 miles, and that their demos are not used for test-drives, but rather by sales managers who drive them to and from work, thus putting on a few thousand miles! I would be willing to buy a demo with 100 miles, but not to buy one that has 3,000-4,000 miles!

    b) I hope that Chrysler will consider extending some of their offers that all expire on July 31st. I cannot get my act together by next week to sign a deal, yet my voucher for the free NAV system, along with the promos for $1,000 lease loyalty/nonloyalty all expire by 7/31/03. When it is time to sign, I will see what the story is. I would hope that Chrysler (and/or the dealership) will not let me walk over an expired NAV system voucher...they are still hot to get close to their 5,000 cars/month goal, I hope!

    c) The dealership (which also owns another Chrysler dealership a few towns away) has some conflicting ads in the newspaper. They both are advertising a FWD Pacidica, MSRP $31,230, 36-month, $1699 due at signing, but one is for $339/month lease and the other is for $359/month lease. I need to call their bluff, because if all things are equal, I want to know why they are leasing the same car, advertisied in the same newspaper, for such a big difference!

    Also, since I am leaning towards the FWD Pacifica, I would like to have some feedback from anyone who has one. I like AWD, but I am hoping that the combination of having ABS brakes, traction control, and how heavy the vehicle is, that AWD would not be necessary! Any comments?
  • ms_mayorms_mayor Posts: 113
    I have the FWD version, foxgo. I live in central NJ.

    The AWD simply didn't seem practical for a number of reasons. First, its not all-time AWD...my understanding is the AWD kicks in only when needed. For me here in NJ, that might only be on a snowy day in the winter when normally I'd be safely cocooned at home eating cheese doodles and watching the snow fall.

    Second, I've owned FWD before and found it to be more than adequate in snowy conditions. The FWD combined with traction control is more than sufficient for my normal driving habits (stay-at-home mom and taxi driver for my kids).

    I felt that saving approx. 200lbs in curb weight and almost $1800 was a good deal in taking FWD over AWD.

    Hope that helps.
  • fish29fish29 Posts: 1
    I have an invoice for $36,000 fully loaded (heated seats, nav, dvd). Any ideas what Chrysler will not take? Can I offer $30,000 and be confident? Sounds like there are alot going for 5-7K off MSRP. My MSRP was $39,000.
  • foxgofoxgo Posts: 27
    Thanks for the vote of confidence on the FWD! I was originally interested in only the AWD, until I saw the price difference. Here is another question for you, since you have the FWD:

    My wife's major issue in getting a new car is regarding whether or not it will roll backwards when stopped on a hill at a light. Her VW does NOT roll backwards, but my car (Ford Escape AWD) and many other types of cars do as well. I was recently told by a Volvo dealer that it is related to the mechanics of AWD, and that FWD vehicles will not roll back.

    Does your FWD Pacifica roll backwards in this situation? My wife will not drive a car that has that rolling-back feeling, there are lots of hills in our area (Westchester, NY) and she gets scared driving a car that will roll backwards when stopped on an incline.

    (I test-drove the AWD Pacifica myself recently, and it DOES roll backwards.)
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  • ms_mayorms_mayor Posts: 113
    Gee, to be quite honest, I never really paid attention to that at all. I'm guessing that it means it doesn't roll forward, because I would imagine I'd be aware of having to constantly (a) keep the brake on while starting to accelerate on a hill and (b) keeping a close watch on traffic to my rear to make sure no one stops too close.

    Of course, where I live (central NJ) there's not a lot of hilly driving. Mostly flat.

    I'll have to pay attention to that in three weeks when we take our trip to the Poconos...lots of hilly driving there.

    I really think your wife will like the car. I get up every day wondering where I can drive it, and grin everytime I get in. Chrysler couldn't have made it more perfect for me if they'd called me up and asked for my input when it was designed.
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