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Chevrolet Cobalt

About time, Chevy, LOL! I hope the quality is better in this and it moves up from subcompact to compact. Otherwise, it will still be a little bare-bones car like the Cavalier/Sunfire.
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  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    http://autonet.ca/AutonetStories/Stories.cfm?StoryID=8752

    I see the car going up market for sure. The new Korean Chevys will be taking care of the KIA / Hyundia low end starting next year. I thought the Pontiac version was a gonner for sure but I guess GM now wants to keep an entry level Pontiac.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Hopefully a GM car that attempts to meet the japanese competition civic/corolla head on in most attributes rather than more basic transportation but cheaper. This is what I was hoping for in the midsizers too. Will be nice to see how it turns out.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 4,215
    Since I am seeing ads for brand new Cavaliers in the $8-9k range, I think the only place it can go is upmarket.
  • libertycatlibertycat Posts: 593
    between Malibu and Aveo. Comparable to an Aerio, Elantra, etc.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    You can get a Cavalier or Sunfire sedan up here with air and auto for C$12998 (about U$9200).

    Great basic transport if you are short on dough.

    Cobalt will definitely go up market, it has to if the Korean imports come in.
  • wsag26wsag26 Posts: 124

    I personally think that Chevrolet could really make a hit with the Chevrolet Cobalt, which debuts at the 2004 North American International Auto show along with the Corvette. I think Chevrolet should use the Pursuit name and dump Cobalt and Sunfire at the same time. Then go ahead and keep the Sunfire name for Pontiac. It's kept good for years!

    Anyway, I looked at the sneak drawing Edmunds got from Chevrolet and saw what could've been the Aveo! The Aveo isn't hot at all and it's unexpected due date & just the whole vehicle itself blew us off. When I looked at the Aveo, my jaw dropped and drool started pouring out of my mouth because it was ugly.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I see ads for Cavaliers with an Automatic and Air Conditionin in Ohio for as low as $8595. The only place the Cavalier can go is Saturn Ion levels. (Civic prices) Remember, Saturn is GM, So Pontiac may be trying to help out Saturn here by reducing one model against the ION Quad Coupe
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Current Cavalier is a bargoon if you don't mind a dated car (though it has a great motor). Cobalt is LONG over due and I truly hope GM does a good job. The ION looks better for 04 and sales are growing which is good. I tested an ION and it's much more refined than the Cavalier which boads well for Cobalt.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    probably won't come to the states. We have the Saturn ION, remember?
  • diablo4diablo4 Posts: 40
    I read that the cobalt will get a ss model with 220HP.
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  • I read that GM is going to keep the Sunfire around after the Cobalt is introduced. Then the Sunfire is going to be replaced by a car different from the Cobalt. But it will most likely come from one of the Euro. Companies GM holds (hopefully not a Fiat). IMO GM should look to Holden for another car for Pontiac to replace the Sunfire.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should give GM most of it's cars. They're great cars at low prices. Who doesn't want that? GM Execs who want to sell you on that Cavalier LS.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Pursuit is a Canada only car. They sell ION here also. Main reason is small cars sell better here on a per capita basis due to higher gas prices.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    In the states, we're being really hit with high gasoline. Especially for all those Hummer H2 and GMC Yukon XL owners.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I'd be nice to have more compact cars, especially from the General, who provides a lot of SUVs on the road today.
  • odmanodman Posts: 309
    Don't forget that the different retail channels here are the other reason we get Pontiac versions of volume Chevy cars (remember the Acadian, the Tempest, and the fact we sold rwd Caprice-based Parisiennes in the 80s when they weren't available in the US?).

    In Canada, all GM dealers are dualled (tripled?)as either Pontiac-Buick-GMC; Chevy-Olds-Chev Truck; or Saturn-Saab-Isuzu. Cadillac gets attached to either P-B-G dealers or C-O-C dealers, but many markets don't have any Cadillac representation at all. In small towns GM will install either the P-B-G store or the C-O-C, so Pontiac dealers are always clamouring for a version of whatever Chevy is selling.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    True enough. Chevy dealers are in need of product more though as they are loosing Oldsmobile after 04. The new Koren Chevy's should be arriving soon to help there.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    More compact cars, the merrier!
  • Okay, the Cavalier could use a major cosmetic makeover and a new name, but the powerplant is just fine. The Ecotec is solid, and at 2.2L and 140hp, it's pretty much the most powerful subcompact car around. It is reliable. My parents have a '92 Cavalier, and have had little problems with it. My wife having had a Toyota Corolla couldn't say the same, and that is why that car is long gone. If the Cobalt is reliable, decent looking, and affordable it will sell, and I will look into it.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I had a 92 Cav and we leased a 99. Both were fine though the 99 had a couple of rattles at the end of 3 years. Ecotec is solid as a rock, we now have an Alero with one. With the discounts, current Cavaliers are a screaming bargoon assuming you don't mind a dated car / interior. Power train won't likely let you down.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Hi, I didn't mean to make it sound that it is acceptable for a first year car to have problems, its not. Ford, Crysler, and even some imports always seem to have some problems with the release of a new model. The Ford Focus model since its release has been recalled over 20 times, mostly for little things, but that is no excuse.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    The best deal on an Ecotec car is the Alero. I see them advertised in my region for $9995. After all rebates and no negotiating.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Check the fine print, your odds of qualifying for all those discounts is close to zero.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    i checked it. The rebates were as followed:
    Oldsmobile cash back
    Owner Loyalty
    Rebate in leiu of GM protection plan
    Military Discount
    GM Employee Discount (How can you work for the Army and GM???)
    Dealer Discount
    Actually, it is possible to work for GM and the army. The GM GMT360 truck plant in Moraine OH is pretty close to where I live. Wright-Patterson Air Force base too. So, the man of the house might work for GM and the woman might have a desk job at the Army.
  • I also think that Holden (GM's Australian division) should give GM North America some of its cars. Also Vauxhall/Opel (GM's European division) should also give us their cars. Those cars seem to look a little better and have nicer GEN III engines. They could even bring back the Caprice!! Why? Because there is a Holden Caprice (also called Stateman, though Caprice has more features) in Australia.

    wanna see more??
    www.holden.com.au

    Hey, we're already imported the Holden Monaro CV8 as a Pontiac GTO 5.7! Why not more??

    The best cars to import are probably the Vauxhall/Opel/Holden Vectra, Holden Adventra, Holden Caprice (Statesman), and Holden Commodore SS

    so, what do u think??
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    In my opinion, the cobalt will be be based on the new opel astra http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2003_fms_astra/

    It even resembles the sketch in the front. The interior steering wheel practically says chevrolet.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Its long been known the Astra will share its chasis with the Cobalt as it does the Ion (just like the Opel Vectra and 04 Chevy Malibu share the epsilon chasis). However don't expect the Cobalt interior to appear as upmarket as the Astra's.
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