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Chevrolet Cobalt

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  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    GM is nolonger supporting an Indy team like Honda does. If I recall the Aurora engine and Chevy engines did quite good when introduced to the circuit. Cadillac's Northstar was also used in the Trans Am races but now they are cleaning up with the racing CTS.

    I probably would stay with the Generals engines over Honda if given a choice.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The Cobalt since 2005 has dominated pretty much all racing in its class especially professional drag racing. The car also holds top speed and other performance records.

    There is a high performance accessory Cobalt catalog available from Chevy parts that has everything you would need to modify an engine including special engine blocks. The catalog is at least $20.
  • i just found some new site's to go to for the performance parts for cobalts, but not only them but all of gm's cars and ford and i think some imports as well not sure , but the site is cardomain.com it has a lot performance parts for the listed makes go there and see what you think its a good site.
  • This car has continued to be a major problem for us! Several times the air bag indiator has lit up with no explanation as to why. Now the key is sticking in the ignition and not allowing the car to be turned off. I believe as more of the cobalts hit the road, we'll find out they live up to the reputation of their name. Don't buy one! If you read this and still buy one, don't come back here to complain!
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Posts: 1,134
    )) "Don't buy one! If you read this and still buy one, don't come back here to complain!" ((

    Why not? :confuse: I thought complaints were one of the reasons to post on these brand-specific forums.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The only reputation that I am familar with with Cobalt name is great car, nice ride, good deal, etc.
  • When GM had their employee pricing last summer I leased an '05 Cobalt coupe with auto and cruise, 15k miles per year, for right at $100/month with all the incentives applied and $3500 on my GM rebate card. Love it so far.
    But what's up with trying to get a duplicate key? Dealer only item? $27 each? I tried everywhere but no one except the dealer has the right blank.
    Anyone else had any luck with this?
  • I have written in this forum before but would like to say to anyone new in here that you can't knock the Cobalt line because of a few lemons. We have 2 in my family a 05 and a 06 both coups. My 06 which I put over 150 miles a day on has over 22,000 miles on it. I have not had it back to the dealer for anything other than oil changes. The car has been flawless. My cousins 05 which turned me on to the car had only 1 issue with the ac dripping when he first bought it other than that his never goes to the dealer as he lets a local shop change the oil. His has around 14,000 miles on it. My point is we hear from those with complaints but rarely here those who praise the car. Not all cobalts have these problems, you might have gotten a lemon.

    In case anyone didn't know this ALL COBALTS HAVE A 5 YEAR 60,000 MILES WARRANTY ON THE POWER TRAIN, BESIDES THE STANDRAD 3-36,000. Now GM has increased them to 5 -100,000 but before that the cobalts had the best warranty in the chevy line.
  • ron_mron_m Posts: 188
    When GM had their employee pricing last summer I leased an '05 Cobalt coupe with auto and cruise, 15k miles per year, for right at $100/month with all the incentives applied and $3500 on my GM rebate card. Love it so far.
    But what's up with trying to get a duplicate key? Dealer only item? $27 each? I tried everywhere but no one except the dealer has the right blank.
    Anyone else had any luck with this?


    Do you have a remote keyless entry type of keyfob, or does your key have a transponder device built into it? I would think that it's the latter since you were thinking that you could obtain a key blank somewhere other than a GM dealership. Keys with a transponder device built into them can appear to be made from nothing more than a simple blank. However, that's not the case. For some cars' keys that have a transponder device embedded in them, you can still have a duplicate key made that will at least allow you to open your cars' doors in case you inadvertently lock the key up in the car. But it won't start the car. Many of these types of key blanks can be purchased at a Home Depot or Lowe's Home Improvement store. But if you're in need of a duplicate key that will also start the car, it's usually off to the dealership for some ridiculous charge. Last question, is your key one of those rectangular-shaped kind with the jagged edge cuts positioned internally--or recessed in the center of the actual key? Usually these types of keys have a remote keyless entry keyfob attached at the top and are not just on a key ring as a separate, loose piece remote keyless entry keyfob.

    Ron M.
  • The car doesn't have remote keyless entry and I'm pretty sure it doesn't have anything to do with a transponder built in to the key because I had a duplicate key made at the dealer and I didn't have to program it like I've had to do on other cars, I put it in the ignition and it started right up, which surprised me 'cuz I thought it would have a transponder in it for that price.
    The teeth on the key are external like 'normal' keys.
    Several of the places I tried before the dealer had these little plastic things they tried sticking the key into to select the right blank and the it wouldn't fit any of them.
    I was hoping someone had some luck finding an alternative to the dealer key.
  • What do you guys think about this turbo for it? I got a Cobalt LT with basically everything offered except its a manual trans, and now I'm wishing I would have just got an SS. But what can you do. I seen these "Maximum Boost" Turbo kits and they dont look to bad, they give 4-5 PSI and would give you 185-195HP total which aint to bad for $1899.99. But What do you think about this brand, or would you think it would even be worth it? :confuse:
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Posts: 1,134
    Chill, Grasshopper - you need to assume the lotus position and contemplate your zen before it becomes your karma. What I think about slapping an aftermarket turbocharger on your car and its effect on the motor and tranny, neither of which are properly internally beefed for the additional mechanical stresses, is how much would you lose if you just traded your car while it's still worth a bunch for an SS Supercharged Coupe whose motor's already factory engineered for its boost. At least with that route, you'd have a full powertrain warranty* and some liklihood of approaching normal engine/transmission life... ;)

    *if you install an aftermarket turbocharger on your current ride, you will most assuredly void your powertrain warranty. Depending on how often you can't resist the temptation to spool 'er up, you could find yourself both upside down on your financing and wheeleless if you punch a stock connecting rod through the side of the aluminum block and/or lunch a few transmission cogs that were never intended to take the additional torque of turbocharging! Now, how kuhl is that? :surprise:
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    $27 is not bad from a dealer. I saw on other forums where people were able to find someone on the internet who charges less.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The stock engine is a pretty beefy unit and has a big race following since its introduction with a whole performance parts catalog available just for it from Chevy. I read last year that there was to be a dealer installed supercharger available for it in the near future. I haven't heard anything more on that however.
  • ray_h1ray_h1 Posts: 1,134
    )) "I read last year that there was to be a dealer installed supercharger available for it in the near future. I haven't heard anything more on that however." ((

    Well then, we can only consign that anonymous report to "interesting speculation" 'till proved otherwise, can't we? Regardless the duration of the powertrain warranty or Chevy's future plans for dealership installed performance options, Chevrolet Division will in no way be obligated to extend warranty considerations to any engine modified with non-GM tested aftermarket performance parts by non-dealer personnel. READ your warranty supplement provisions for clarification.
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,770
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    On the highway at night, I'd really like leaning down, reaching around the shifter to close a passenger side window.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    The issue that CR and others commented on was that all windows control belong on the door.
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,770
    That's for the most part correct. The window switches are better off on the door. Alot of cars have it on the console but still, the HHR is the only one that has it up there in front of the shifter. Are you sure that CR's criticism is so poorly founded?
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I'm planning to do a 180 mile round trip 5 days a week for the next 2 to 3 years. If I do it for the full 3 years, I would rack up 135K miles based only on the commute mileage alone.
    It will be almost 100% freeway driving.

    Is the Cobalt LT automatic a top choice in vehicle for this or is something else more suitable?

    A car that would be ideal to me for this kind of extreme driving would need to have high fuel economy and low maintenance costs to keep the expenses in control, but also need a comfortable drivers seat, smooth and quiet highway ride and maybe a nice stereo with XM and MP3 jack to help the hours go by.
    Are the front seats comfortable, can you get over 35 MPG on the highway on a 90 mile highway trip and is the freeway ride comfortable and quiet?

    What kind of yearly maintenance would be needed at 45,000 miles a year and can you expect the car to make it to over 100K miles without being in the shop alot.

    What car would be a better choice for the money?
    Civic's and Corollas probably are not going to have a highway ride over California's bumpy freeway expansion joints that I want to live with.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I don't have a Cobalt but it is on the top of my list for a new car next year. The Consumer rating toward the top of this screen has drivers evaluations and mileage. I have read of people getting upper 30's mpg on the highway. I have driven several Cobalts and think it is the best value for the money. The seats were specially designed by a well known seat maker and are on the firm side for long distance driving comfort. The engines are both timing chain driven with no belts to replace at 50-60,000 miles like the imports. It has the Dexcool anti-freeze which can last as long as 5-years though I don't know if I would let it go that long. It is 5-star frontal crash tested as well as high as there is for the class in side impact when equipt with the side air bags. The ride is very smooth and very quite with the insulted panels. I am not sure how your Los Angelas highways are so I couldn't comment on that. I am not sure they have corrected the sunroof rattling issue that the early 2005 models had as reported by a couple people on this forum and I personally wouldn't get that for that reason and because like most cars you loose head room when so equipt.

    Good luck
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I later noticed that the automatic has an EPA highway rating of only 32. That's in the range of some much larger vehicles with bigger engines. Even some V6s.
    I don't want to deal with the 5 speed in traffic and the more difficult resale of a stick shift sedan.
    I haven't seen anyone post their mileage experiences in the Cobalt fuel economy forum here. Only stick shift owners posted there.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    Based on its size I would imagine you would get 36-38 mpg. with the auto.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I think that would make sense, except that owners are not reporting mileage like that.
    Maybe I'll see if I can find on at a rental agency and rent it for a day to see much gas it uses.
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,770
    You'd probably get that if it was downhill both ways.
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    If you were me, which one would you get, a Cobalt coupe LT or an SS (not supercharged). I know that the standard options are not the same and the price is different between the two of them. What is the best value for your money? and Why would you choose one than the other?
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    10-years-ago I probably would have liked the LTZ or SS but now the 4-door LT would be the one for me. I like the ride of the LT which is a combination of smooth for its size, yet still firm enough without squeling the tires around corners.
  • Hi...

    Doesn't anyone out there agree that perhaps GM should start moving into the 21st century finally by including stability control with its line of small vehicles, such as the Cobalt and Pontiac G5 for example? Traction control is fine, but it's sooooooo yesterday in terms of evolution for this model line. Providing electronic stability control, as an option at least, would definitely set this machine apart from all the others at this price point. Honda, Toyota, Nissan...all good at what they produce, but none have provided ESC for their smaller machines. GM...are U listening????????????????? The Corolla with ESC is VERY hard to come by!

    Plus...I like the look of the Cobalt, and would consider purchasing one, but the one "fly in the ointment" (so to speak) is the Consumer Reports rating for it, claiming it ain't bad but way below, almost bottom of the barrel, in terms of dependability/reliabilty. Ok, that's their spin on it, but how could a machine that is sooooooo poor, according to CR and others, be such a great seller for Chevy? Many out there seem to dig it, and I see quite a few of them around. What gives? I'm hip to the fact that the Cobalt is easy to buy and service, considering the many Chevy dealers there are coast to coast. If it is such a poor machine then why do so many purchase, and keep purchasing them time and time again? Hmmmmmmm...

    I see that this particular thread hasn't seen much action lately. Oh well...

    Happy Holidays... :shades:

    Peace! ;)
  • grosloupgrosloup Posts: 239
    I don't know how old you are my friend but... In my younger days G.M had a little car named Chevrolet Chevette and Pontiac Acadian. Like the Cobalt and G5 they were cheap to buy as a first brand new car. You could see them everywhere, on the streets and in the repair shops. Famous brake problems 2-3 sets a year and that's with normal driving.(and that's only naming one problem) They didn't look sporty like the Cobalt but they were cheap to drive until you stated having problems 1 to 2 years after you bought it. At that time G.M. warranty was 1 year or 12000 miles. That's were they made their money.
    Is history reapeting itself with the Cobalt?
    Three years after purchasing a Cobalt it's going to start falling apart?

    Like you said Hmmmmm...
  • I wouldn't put to much importance on CR reports. My last 2 auots were cars that CR trashed a 85 Cutless and a 94 Cavalier. The Cutless I sold with 171,000 miles on it running with average repairs and the Cavalier had 184,000 and running great. Why are so many Cobalts sold because people don't listen to these reviews and go on price. I own a 2006 Cobalt with 24,600 miles on it and only had 1 problem with it ( the shifter assemby was changed because of key problems) other than that it's needed nothing but oil changes.

    I believe this car will stand up to anything in it's price range made today.
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYPosts: 1,770
    It's all a question of price. GM's goal has been to increase the avg price point of their transactions. I beleive that it's worked well for some cars such as the Impala but with the Cobalt it comes down to what do you want for your 12 grand? You can get a Civic with a stick and no a/c or PW or you can get a Balt with that stuff.

    You see alot of Malibus but it's not because it's a good car. They're attocious but what else are you going to buy for 15 grand?
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