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Buick LaCrosse

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  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Well, I do not remember to see a car without an electrical starter; probably none were produced after the war ended in 1945. I was born in 1951 and lived in Soviet Union. However, until about 1975, all Soviet cars had cranks. Trucks even longer.

     

    Just in case if the battery or starter dies.

     

    The manufacturers stopped providing cranks not because they were useless. One reason - the starters became more reliable. However, the main reason - the newer, more powerful engines were too hard to crank. Especially when the batteries tend to die - when it is below -15F. Thick oil, etc. Even healthy male drivers could not cope.

     

    Hardly the case with trunk lock.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I like the no key hole on the trunk idea. Cleaner look, no trunk break-ins via a picked lock.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,528
    >no trunk break-ins via a picked lock.

     

    Good point for those in higher crime areas.

    Don't have that problem here unless I'm parking in the city which is rare--and I usually drive the older LeSabre which is less attractive for thievery.

     

    Of course they can just use a pry bar under the botoom edge of the trunk and ruin the trunk metal instead of just pushing out the lock cylinder!

     

    I still want a lock cylinder. Of course I still want my right side door lock cylinder back.
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    This is another example of an old habit of US car makers - combine a minor bit of styling with saving a couple of bucks.

     

    Question for Buick/GM - WWLD [What would Lexus do]?
  • robw64robw64 Posts: 76
    As I continue the preliminary shopping process, I decided to submit a quote request to the largest Buick dealer in Central Florida via gmbuypower.com. The quote (on a CXS in stock) came back $3,800 under the MSRP of $34,200. I also submitted a request for a Ford 500 Limited (also in stock) via forddirect.com. The comparably priced vehicle was $2,600 under MSRP, which makes the vehicle almost $3,000 less expensive. Talk about torn. I love the Buick, and appreciate the 500/Montego. This would be a difficult choice.
  • My dad is interested in the Lacrosse CXS. It claims to have a sports suspension but I find it hard to believe a buick can drive like a sports car. Does anyone here have a CXS Lacrosse, and how does it drive?
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Why not take a test drive?
  • dan165dan165 Posts: 653
    Big difference between a sports car and a sports sedan. No one is claiming the CXS to be a sports car, but it is likely comparable to the Accord V6 Sedan or the Altima V6.
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    for <$300/mo with <$2,000 up front here in downstate NY. That would be enough sports sedan for me, if I were in the mood to get rid of my perfectly good '02 Regal. Low-end LaCrosses go for <$250/mo. Question - if/when these crazy incentives end, what'll be the best value for the money - a Buick, an Altima, ....?
  • While I was getting my oil changed on my GTO I decided to take a LaCrosse for a test drive. I figured I could take advantage of the $100 Marriott certificate.

    The LaCrosse I drove was a white opal CXL stickered at $30,580. Overall, I really liked this vehicle. It represents a turn in the right direction for Buick. I was very impressed with the fit and finish and materials seemed to be of good quality. The car was very quiet while at idle and driving - I guess the quiet tuning works.
    Style wise I really like the sleek look. Many have said it is to bland, but, it looks quite sharp - especially in black with the chrome package.
    I thought the 3.8 did a decent job, but really feel that the 3.6 should be the standard power plant across the board. Maybe this will happen in future years similar to the 3.5 becoming standard on the Intrigue.
    The ride was well controlled and comfortable. A little to "floaty" for my tastes, but I am used to the much stiffer ride in my GTO.
    The biggest complaint I have is price. I really feel that it is overpriced. Yes, I know there are and always will be incentives. Still, for the money I think there are better alternative out there - the new Avalon, Accord...
    For, $26k it would be a great value, at over $30k it is really pushing the envelope.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    The Allure seems to be a little better in terms of price here in Canada. CXS starts at C$33200 here (about U$26500)and is in line with similar premium V6 sedans. I suspect the higher incentives will kick in over the summer.

    Over all it's a nice car. Like you said, many have said it's bland but I liked it. I also thought the interior was very nice.
  • mrrogersmrrogers Posts: 391
    Thanks for the nice review. I am a Marriott Gold member. How do I get the $100 Marriott certificate?
  • mrrogersmrrogers Posts: 391
    I went to the Buick website, and found the details of the Marriott offer.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=30&article_id=- 9237

    Now, that makes this car much more attractive, as it brings the price of the LaCrosse CXS inline with what it likely should have been to begin with.

    I still dont think the G6 is a good value, but the 3.6L DOHC sure seems like a sweet engine.

    ~alpha
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,528
    The link didn't work for me. Anyone else have success?
  • jb7227jb7227 Posts: 86
    Just picked up my new CXL today - MSRP of $28.1 with rebates and discounts - paid $ 22.5. So far, very impressed - I got the black with the chrome package - real classy combo w/the tan leather. I have always liked the 3.8 motor - it has plenty of pickup and feels like it could cruise all day at 75-80 mph. The quiet tuning really does seem to work - less engine and wind noise than my 2002 LeSabre. The car is very well assembled - doors especially shut with a solid "thud". Interior has very tight tolerances, and nice looking instruments. Big improvement over Century/Regal. Being a fan of the traditional Buick ride, I opted for the CXL -though I drove the CXS w/the 3.6 and must say it feels stronger.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Sorry bout that. Just go to Car and Driver and check out the Daily Auto Insider.

    ~alpha
  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    Could you advise what rebates and/or incentives that you received? Please do not count the discounts from MSRP.
  • From the Detroit News -

    http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0502/23/F01-97884.htm

    Pretty fair. Although, I would pick the LaCrosse any day over the Montego.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Hmmm.

    I wouldn't. And didn't.

    AWD???

    That was one reason.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    AWD is an advantage but not that many people want it and living in snowy Ontario, I wouldn't even want it. Just sucks power and more gas.

    Buick could make some improvements to the LaCrosse but given it's far better powertrain, I would choose it (and even the 3800 models) over the Merc. I do like the Mercs dash a bit better though.
  • tpkentpken Posts: 1,108
    I also did the Marriott certificate test drive over the weekend. I found the CSX to be 'interesting' but not a car I would buy new. Perhaps a 1 or 2 year-old lease return or program car for $10-15K less than MSRP. The styling doesn't do much for me - seems Taurusesque in many ways. The interior is very comfortable and quiet. Std automatic climate controls in even the base model are a nice touch. I think a lot of present LeSabre and Bonneville SE/SLE owners are going to find this car a satisfactory replacement.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I have finally seen a CXS model. It was light gray and it was sharp. The car looks so much better with the 17s and the chrome package. It actually looks like a $30K car with those options included.
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    The Montego's giving you those high seats and bigger trunk - a direct result of building the Buick on the old Century/Regal platform.

    However - That ancient 3.0 Vulcan with the CVT has GOT to go. If I owned it, I'd be cursing it's noisy inadequacies [I owned two Tauruses with that motor].

    Avalon, the "Japanese Buick"? Sure, if I didn't mind paying full MSRP up front with plenty of overpriced Toyota routine service down the road.

    What to do? If the arthritis ingress-egress problem is yours, go for the Merc. If $$$ don't matter, Avalon's for you. Me, I'll take a top-of-the-line CSX, but ONLY with a BIG discount.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    The 3.0 in the Montego is the Duratec V6, not the Vulcan V6. Two totally different engines. The Vulcan is an OHV pushrod engine like the 3800 GM engine. The Duratec is a DOHC 24 valve engine that is relatively modern, though lacking compared to the newer larger engines.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    And certainly lacking in torque compared to most engines in vehicles of comparable size...
  • verdi942verdi942 Posts: 304
    It's a Duratec 24V in the Montego. Too new to be replaced by something a little more powerful 'n' torquy. Imagine the 3.8 with DOHC, 24V and an aluminum block! Never happen, of course.

    So, to finish beating this LaCrosse/Montego thing to death, we have a choice between an excellent all-new body with inadequate power vs a nifty new 3.6 or still adequate 3.8 in an evolutionary body on an obsolescent platform. Whew! I guess it's time to bring on the incentives.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    I suspect when the Fusion comes out, 500 sales will be hurting more than they are. I don't think Ford is equated with premium sedans. Montego may be ok and I wish Ford would make Mercury more like Buick (a real premium brand) rather than just dress up and rebadge Ford models. Mercury is still mostly dead here in Canada and if they want to keep it alive in the US, Ford will have to do better.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,565
    Ford does not need to sell a ton of 500's. They don't have the cpacity to make them There is currently only one plant (Chicago) dedicated to 500, Montego, and Freestyle production.

    With the fragmentation in the marketplace, Ford will do well if eventually Fusion+500 sales reach 400K a year.

    I have not in recent years considered Buick to be a premium brand, just another GM division fighting it out in the same market as Chevy, Pontiac, and until recently Olds, and ending up with the "mature" buyers.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Buicks (Lucerne and LaCrosse) are definitely premium sedans now but not at the Lexus level which is ok in my opinion. I just wish they would not say they want to be an American Lexus. Cadillac competes with Lexus, not Buick.
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