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Buick LaCrosse

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  • fredvhfredvh Posts: 853
    Where are you gentlemen getting the price and equipment information on the 2006 LaCrosse?
    When will the 2006s be in the showrooms?
  • rda27nerda27ne Posts: 8
    Just curious what other Lacrosse CXS owners, 3.6 VVT engine, are averaging for fuel economy on the highway. At 70 mph I turn around 2200 rpm and avg 26 - 27 mpg.
  • jmw4jmw4 Posts: 67
    I show about the same range, 25 - 27 mpg. Have owned the car for 5 months now and after 4000 miles it has been problem free and a joy to drive.
  • will get standard ABS on the entire range,
    and standard side curtain airbags aswell!

    ITS ABOUT TIME GM!

    this with the longer warrenty defenetley will help raise buicks image.

    Here is the info
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    All Buicks should have ABS, SABs and OnStar standard. I think alloys also, plastic wheels cheapen the cars. Buicks should not be glorified Chevys.
  • :lemon:
    Afraid to say that while there have been multiple attempts at resolving the problems with the leaking doors, the car is still FAR from fixed to factory standards. Only bought it in March of 05, but since it's been in for service on 10 occasions for a total of 24 days. The dealerships have replaced door seals, adjusted the doors, bondo was applied. Then Buick shipped a new pair of factory doors which also leaked. They re aligned the doors, and still needed to bondo the second set of doors to make the water stop infiltrating the cabin. Then it took another visit to the body shop to get the doors to line up visually. Now the car finally does not leak, and the doors do line up visually. However, there is a lot of wind noise, and the doors feel like they drop 1/4 inch when you open them and it takes a pretty heavy amount of pressure to get them to close. I can't believe this is the only car produced with problems of this kind, but nobody else seems to be complaining of leaks or bad fit issues. Anyhow, I really did get a lemon, and am now pursuing the lemon law repurchase option through the BBB.
    If you buy this car, I strongly recommend you test drive it on a rainy day!
  • im sorry you are having problems with your car. Its so odd since buick is tops in quality. I'm sure you don't want to hear that now :(

    You know, buying a car no matter the brand is alwayse going to be a roll of the dice. You could buy a 'lexus' or a buick and get horrible quality yet drive off in a horrible (quality wise) jaguar and have no problems. it really depends on the roll of the dice.

    A friend of mine had problems with his cobalt (wipers hurled the water toeard the drivers side of the glass, really bad on rainy days) and like you with your door he tested out various fixes that all failed. GM offerred to updrade his car to a malibu! He told me tha he called them, explained the problem and was very frustrated. I don't think GM wanted to go through the lemon law deal (to keep image afloat) and they were so nice to him. BTW the dealer would not budge so now my friend is suing the dealer, but the point is try to contact GM first, and explain the situation to the right people.

    let me know if this helps...
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Lemons suck but there are always one or two here and there, especially with a new model.

    Hopefully they will offer you a new car.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    GM is upping the premium image on the LaCrosse/Buick's. They did not lower the base price to the new "value" pricing strategy. In fact the base price increased $100, but is offset with about $1000 in increased content of ABS and Side air bags. They also put leather on the shifter on the CX and made available more premium equipment on the cloth car. Other GM cars such as Chevys dropped their prices. Then again the LaCrosse only had $1000 in incentives while the Chevys had $3000.

    Buick is also greatly limiting the fleet penetration to increase resale value.

    This non value pricing shows GM is allowing the Buick volume to stay at a lower level and not go after high volume like the Chevrolet brand. Over time hopefully Buick will earn back their premium position of old.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    There are not a lot of LaCrosse / Allure rentals that I have seen. They seem to be sticking more with Malibus and Impalas which is indeed good news.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,182
    I don't understand the negativity toward rental cars. I was behind, I believe a Mazda 3 with a National sticker on it. Does that mean Mazda 3s are no good because they're in a rental company?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Nothing wrong with rental cars. Issue is Domestics overuse them to get rid of overcapacity of their cars. These rentals then go into the used car market which kills resale. It also is a place to put vehicles that have been around to long in their lifecycle like the Century.

    It is a good way to get possible customers into your car. LaCrosse had a special executive program whenb it was introduced.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,182
    >good way to get possible customers into your car.

    That's what I would think. But sometimes the rentals sound the extra-stripped models rather than a normal model most people would want to buy...
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Yes, that is one of the reasons that some have gotten bad opinions of a vehicle. Used to send stripper, bench seat Centurys to rentals. Changed that to relatively loaded Regals which helped sell them later to customers. Also better/easier to sell in the used car market.

    LaCrosses were well equipped CX's and CXL's (of course even the base versions are well equipped) for the executive rental program
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    It only concerns me if a model is over sold in the rental and fleet market. It usually means resale will suck.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,182
    I usually have kept a car for 8-10 years. So I've justified the extra cost of a new vs 1 or 2 year-old car with the average cost per year being only some higher for the pleasure of a new car that first couple of years. Do you trade early enough in the life of a car that other people's valuation would vary by much due to a greater number lowering value of used models?

    I think the LaCrosse is going to do well as a used car when they are 3-5 years in.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    ....................May......June....July...

    LaCrosse......6500....10700...13300..(160,000/year if they keep up this pace)
    Impala.........19400....16600...17260
    300M...........13000...11500...10600....
    ES300/330....8500.....8750....9600...
    Ford 500.......9000....8600.....13555..

    Take a look at poor Ford. The LaCrosse is selling more than the 500 which is unbelievable. I think folks should be more concerned about Ford going out of business rather than GM. They are selling a lot of Taurus's though. I assume to fleet?? I saw the Fusion this weekend and its not very exciting. G6 is all over it. They need to get away from the Audi look.

    What will be interesting is the sales for August. Of the above inventories only vary from 24000(300M) to 31000(500). (no numbers available for Lexus) Not much 2005 stock left. GM is increasing their production for their vehicles. 4rt qtr profitn should be much better.
  • sold 13,555 of the 500 based on your story
    the lacross sold 13,300, which is less.

    still that is crazy, those are some good numbers for GM, and its customers.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    bust my britches :P

    I averaged the 3 months of data and got close:)
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Even if you average the three months of data, the Five Hundred is STILL outselling the LaCrosse....

    Then there is the Montego version to add to add to that.

    So, why poor Ford?
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    LaCrosse offers great value, especially at the base level. Now with standard air curtains SABs and ABS, I only see sales going higher.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    the 500 should be out selling a Buick by quite a lot of cars. A Ford and Chevrolet have traditionally competed head to head with each other.

    If you want to throw in the Montego then you would have to throw in the Impala/Grand Prix.

    I just think the 500 is not selling as well as it should. It should be a 240,000 cars/year car.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    LaCrosse in July had its best sales since launch, with a 25 percent increase over June sales. LaCrosse has set month-over-month sales increases in seven of eight months since its launch.

    LaCrosse in July outsold year-ago combined Century and Regal sales by 79 percent (about 5,600 units).
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    There is no way sales of the 500 and lacrosse should be close. Ford is the volume brand at FoMoCo, while Buick is one of GM's smaller brands. The lacrosse will never sell as much as the mainstream Impala which would be the 500s closest GM competitor.
  • the only thing is, that the five-hundred is a different class of car than the buick (despite what edmunds thinks, since they did a comparo), its just bigger outside and in. In terms of the five hundred, the lacross is long, but thats about it.

    It is better to compare five hundred sales to impala, as you said.

    BTW that comparo was kindo trashy, the price difference between the lacross and the wineer was a whipping $4,000! I bet things would have been differnct if they equipped the avalon for only 33,000, like the buick :mad:
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I think in real life, to most consumers, that if someone was looking at an Impala they would have both the 500 and LaCrosse in the sights. They might also look at the Avalon and the Camry but if price was a concern would drop the Avalon. Impala and LaCrosse are not that much different in interior size. They are the same architecture and share most dimensions except those controlled by styling differences (headroom, etc.)
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Have you been in the car? It does not have a pull light switch, It is a 4 position turn switch so that you can turn off the day time safety lights if you want. In fact in most if not all GM cars/trucks you do not use the lightswitch unless you have some reason to. Lights come on automatically at dusk and off when you turn off the car or drive into light for safety. Of course the safety daylight lights are on all the time.

    Whats wrong with the beeper that comes on if your turn signal is left on a long time? Another safety feature. Of course somebody my age (47) NEVER forgets to turn the signal off :blush: . Only those old unintelligent, stupid old people ever need the beeper. ;)

    Yes, Buick should have done an audi or something else knockoff. The car has some curves unlike most cars today. But styling is one area that is in the eyes of the beholder and anyones opinion is valid!
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Just read an article that 50% of LaCrosse buyers had a non GM vehicle as their 2nd choice. That is really high for a GM vehicle.

    Also said doing very little fleet on Buicks now. Retail sales are up 3% this year even though total sales are down. Looks like the LeSabre is sold out and the LuCerne will not be here for awhile.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Where did you read that? Just wondering.

    I like the LaCrosse CXS a lot but looking that the new Impala, I'm wondering if Chevy (aside from the OHC engine) is offering a better car for the buck. I like the interior of the Impala in brushed aluminum form better in many ways. An LTZ with 240hp lists for about C$3000 less than a base CXS.
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