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Buick LaCrosse

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  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,012
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  • curt2005curt2005 Posts: 70
    "You forgot to mention its standard on Grand Prix GXP and G6 GTP as well as Lucerne CXS."

    As I said, only on the performance models, not available on the ordinary models.


    "Stabilitrak is available on the CTS and standard on some models. Where are you getting your info from? "

    It comes only with a special sport suspension option. Not with standard suspension, according to the Cadillac website.

    2.8L Standard Starting at $29,990*
    2.8L V6 VVT with 210 hp
    Fully independent suspension,
    All-Speed Traction Control,
    4-wheel disc brakes with anti-lock system
    Leather-trimmed steering wheel with programmable fingertip controls,
    remote keyless entry and more

    17" WHEEL SPORT PACKAGE $1,640.00
    17" Wheel Sport Package, includes
    (TT6) Headlamps, Xenon, high-intensity discharge, windshield wiper activated;
    (QWW) Tires, P225/50R17, W-rated, all-season, blackwall; (N93) Wheels, 17" (43.2 cm) aluminum, machined finish; (G80) Limited Slip Differential;
    (JL4) StabiliTrak;
    (FE2) Suspension, 4-wheel independent (Y42)

    Looking at the 3.6L, maybe FE2 is actually the standard suspension???

    3.6L Standard Starting at $32,690*
    3.6L V6 VVT with 255 hp
    6-speed manual transmission,
    stainless steel exhaust,
    16-in X 7-in aluminum wheels
    8-way power front bucket seats,
    AM/FM stereo/CD player,
    heated outside mirrors and more

    17" WHEEL SPORT PACKAGE
    17" Wheel Sport Package, includes
    (TT6) Headlamps, Xenon, high-intensity discharge, windshield wiper activated;
    (QWW) Tires, P225/50R17, W-rated, all-season, blackwall; (N93) Wheels, 17" (43.2 cm) aluminum, machined finish; (G80) Limited Slip Differential;
    (JL4) StabiliTrak;
    (FE2) Suspension, 4-wheel independent (Y42)

    18" WHEEL PERFORMANCE PKG.
    3.6L V6 18" Wheel Performance Package, includes (
    TT6) Headlamps, Xenon, high-intensity discharge, windshield wiper activated;
    (QGQ) Tires, P225/50R18, W-rated, performance;
    (N87) Wheels, 18" (45.7 cm) 9-spoke, polished alloy;
    (JE5) Brakes, performance;
    (G80) Limited Slip Differential;
    (JL4) StabiliTrak;
    (FE5) Suspension, performance-tuned and
    (UJ6) Tire Pressure Monitor (Y43)

    Can't really tell from the website if you can get stabiltrak with a standard suspension.
  • volvodan1volvodan1 Posts: 196
    I believe the 18" wheel package is the more "sport" tuned suspension. Almost every CTS we have has the 17" sport package.
  • celica8celica8 Posts: 42
    LaCrosse Super is supposed to debut today. Any pics?
  • drjoedrjoe Posts: 1
    My 2006 LaCrosse CXL cruise control seems too ambitious. On far too gentle uphill inclines, it insists on downshifting to lower gears, frequently two at a time. I can turn off the cruise control and rarely find the transmission downshifting. Can the cruise control be adjusted to increase the deadband?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    There is no home remedy for this. Perhaps a dealer could do something thru the computer but I doubt it.
  • sirius2sirius2 Posts: 42
    I test drove a LaCrosse last week and noticed something similar. I think the pressure setting on the accelarator pedal is set too tight. I had to push very hard to get the pedal to stay down. Maybe it's some type of safety feature, but it's a lot different driving experience than my chevy lumina (to be replaced) and Honda Odyssey (which I love except for the lack of sound deadening). I'd like to keep one American car in the driveway, but it's not easy competing against Accord & Camry which have perfected the midsize sedan.
  • sirius2sirius2 Posts: 42
    Please let us know when you post your article.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    OnStar turn by turn included for one year
    New 17" painted aluminum wheels
    New 17" chrome wheels
    New 17" polished wheel
    3.05 axle on 3800
    Tire pressure monitoring system standard
    four new colors:Midnight blue, Stone gray, Midnight Amethyst, red Jewel tintcoat
  • We bought our Lacrosse CXS in July 2005...slightly used..3K miles...prior to our purchase, it was sitting outside, in the rain, on the dealership lot. When we bought it, both the front and back passenger interior foot well areas were wet. The dealer explained they had just shampooed the carpet. Although we thought the areas were REALLY wet, more so than the aftermath of a shampoo, we took the dealer at his word. Eventually, the footwell areas dried out.

    In December 2005, we took a long road trip. Pouring down rain for 3 days, non-stop. After the car had been parked overnight with rain pouring down on it, the next morning BOTH the front and back passenger side footwells were completely soaked--could almost see standing water!

    The first dealership we took it to diagnosed the problem as a plugged drain tube from the sunroof. The car dried out but a couple months later, after having driven and parked the car in the rain for about 4 hours, same problem but this time not enough flow to reach the back foot well. Passenger front foot well was soaked.

    Took it to our home dealership, they diagnosed the problem as an improperly installed part below the windshield preventing proper drainage.

    Three weeks later, car sat parked for 3 hours in a hefty rain storm, front passenger foot well became soaked. Back seat was OK. Took it back to the home dealership. NOW they say they have located a factory bulletin stating something is wrong with the seal in the "A" column or post (runs from the roof to the hood) and that is where the problem lies.
    At this writing, they still have the car.

    QUESTION: is this the same fix applied to your vehicle? Or should we expect more problems once we get it back?
    THANK YOU.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    So far I have read two problems that cause water leakage like you have. One is the sunroof hose and the other the bulletin. Hopefully this is the real problem and you are OK.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    At a press conference here, Buick unveiled its "LaCrosse Super," a high-end trim version of its mid-sized LaCrosse that will be available in the summer of 2007. Buick General Manager Steve Shannon called Super "a freshening of the LaCrosse" that's designed to give LaCrosse customers bolder styling and performance.

    The Super will include a 5.3-liter, 300-plus-hp V-8 engine; upgraded brakes and suspension; plus new front and rear fascia. Buick spokesman Darovitz said the product content of the Super will be exclusive to that trim line.

    Said Shah, "It's like what Denali is to GMC
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    Does anyone else think the Aura is making the Lacrosse look overpriced? Full pricing is out and fully loaded the aura will be at least $4000 cheaper than a loaded CXS model. On top of that you get more features and power and a 6 speed auto. The only advantages I can think of for the Lacrosse are quietness and better warranty. Not that I dont like the Lacrosse, but facts are facts.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    where did you find that info about the super Lacrosse? I have been waiting to see a picture of this car.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Posted in autoweek.com no pics that I know of.

    As far as pricing compared to Aura, it will depend on features. LaCrosse is a bit wider but does have less rear leg room. LaCrosse will also ride much smoother and quieter. I guess they would have different customers.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    They may have different customers to some extent, but the bottom line is the price difference is too large considering the features are so close. THe lacrosse has always been a little pricey, even when compared to the Impala and Grand Prix, but this makes it look even worse. The only difference is that the Aura will have minimal incentives and Saturn has no haggle pricing while Buick dealers can negotiate.
  • rwisemrwisem Posts: 96
    I'm not sure the Lacrosse is so overpriced. My wife's car is a CXS we custom ordered. It has all the good stuff such as stability control, XM radio, sunroof, etc. Sticker was just under 30k and we paid 27k. It is far superior in ride and noise to the mid-size stablemates like the Impala and Grand Prix. Feels much roomier than a G6, too.

    Nevertheless, I like new technology and the Aura has plenty of it. I have ordered one with the 3.6 and 6-speed auto. This Fall we have them both in the stable. It should be interesting.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    27K is an excellent price. What made up the difference? Incentives, haggling?
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I dont doubt that the transaction prices paid for the Lacrosse are reasonable considering the content of the car, but the MSRPs are too high considering what you get. A fully loaded CXS shouldn't be more than $31k in my opinion, especially since the car doesnt offer nav. I think the pricing is the main thing keeping sales down on this car, I dont think it has anything to do with the styling, the 3800 or the 4 speed auto. Most people could care less about those things.

    Buick is lucky that most people wont cross shop the Aura and the Lacrosse.
  • rwisemrwisem Posts: 96
    I believe there was a $500 regional cash back and we did get a discount from the dealer - I'm a good customer.
  • adamcadamc Posts: 5
    You wouldn't happen to know if there's another GM vehicle, a 2006, that is using the same stone gray metallic color that the Lacrosse is getting for 2007, would you?

    I'm considering placing an order for a 2007 Lacrosse and I'm interested in this color. I definitely want to see it for myself first though, even if on a different car.

    Thanks for the headsup about the '07 MY changes. I appreciate all your posts.
  • adamcadamc Posts: 5
    Whoops!

    I'm sorry ... nevermind. Right after posting I thought to just google "stone gray metallic 2006" and found that the Pontiac Torrent has it.
  • russellmrussellm Posts: 5
    I couldn't pass up GM's 72 hour 0% interest for up to 72 months sale this week. I traded my 2002 Regal in for an '06 La Crosse CXL. Now that I've had it for a little over 24 hours, I have a few questions.

    1. The gas pedal takes much more pressure to press down than the old Regal. At times it feels like I am standing on the pedal just to get it to move. I have drive by wire on my '05 Silverado and it takes very little pressure to press it's gas pedal. Has anyone else noticed this on their LaCrosse?

    2. I just got the standard radio on it since I seldom listen to it. When I looked in the manual on how to setup the radio, what they show as the standard radio, doesn't look like mine. My radio has the extra row of buttons like the upgrade XM radio or MP3/XM radio has, however it doesn't appear to have either of those features. I was hoping it would at least had RDS, like the radio in my truck. Anyone else have the bottom of the line radio? If so does it look like the one in the manual or more like the XM radios?

    For those of you with an '05 LaCorsse, does you car have A/C / Heat vents built into the rear of your console for the backseat passengers? I sat in an early release '05 LaCrosse and thought that it had these vents. That was one feature I really wanted and was disappointed to find out they didn't.
  • rwisemrwisem Posts: 96
    Hi Russellm. I had a 2005 Lacrosse company car and my wife owns a 2006, both CXS models. The accelerator pedal on both had just the right amount of resistance. I don't know if there is a difference between the CXL and CXS since they use different engines. Perhaps your dealer could adjust the spring tension.

    My wife has the standard radio too. The owner's manual is confusing as it shows a base radio that is only put on fleet orders. The radio you have is, I'm sure, the base radio for non-fleet cars. It doesn't do mp3's but I thought it was RDS equipped - I could be wrong.

    No production Lacrosse in 2005 or 2006 had rear seat HVAC vents.
  • russellmrussellm Posts: 5
    Thanks for the reply. It must have been another car that I was in that had the rear seat vents.

    As for the gas pedal, it has loosened up considerably with in the first 200 miles. There should be some resistance. My truck, has almost none and when I hit a bump and if my foot moves ever so slightly, it is imediatly transmitted to the engine. Much too touchy.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    No RDS in any LaCrosses. Sorry.
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    I have seen quite a bit about the Lacrosse super coming out next year. I hope they really do more than just add 18" wheels and the V8. I am assuming that next year the CXS will be dropped and the Super will become the top model with the 3.6 V6 becoming available in the lower model. The acceleration will be nice but you already know the Super will get knocked for the 4 speed auto.
  • jay28117jay28117 Posts: 1
    I just traded my 2001 Buick Regal for a 2006 Buick Lacrosse CXL last week. This car comes with a Driver Information Center that displays outside temperature. I noticed that it seems to take a while for the outside temperature to display the correct reading. My 01 Regal would display the correct reading by just driving a few blocks vs. several miles with the Lacrosse. Anyone else have this problem??
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,163
    It may take a mile or two before the exterior temp sensors on our two cars show a steady temperature. I don't know if it takes a while to change to the new temperature or if the process is slowed by the reading the programmer puts out just to keep the unit from searching for the right settings.
  • frankkfrankk Posts: 35
    I suppose that this is a generic question, but since I have a Lacrosse I'll ask here.

    Does anyone have a recomendation for something to treat the top of the dashboard with? It looks a bit dry (color gets uneven). I don't like ArmorAll, as it seems to leave a residue on the windshield when it evaporates.
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