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Buick LaCrosse



  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    There are not a lot of LaCrosse / Allure rentals that I have seen. They seem to be sticking more with Malibus and Impalas which is indeed good news.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I don't understand the negativity toward rental cars. I was behind, I believe a Mazda 3 with a National sticker on it. Does that mean Mazda 3s are no good because they're in a rental company?
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Nothing wrong with rental cars. Issue is Domestics overuse them to get rid of overcapacity of their cars. These rentals then go into the used car market which kills resale. It also is a place to put vehicles that have been around to long in their lifecycle like the Century.

    It is a good way to get possible customers into your car. LaCrosse had a special executive program whenb it was introduced.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    >good way to get possible customers into your car.

    That's what I would think. But sometimes the rentals sound the extra-stripped models rather than a normal model most people would want to buy...
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Yes, that is one of the reasons that some have gotten bad opinions of a vehicle. Used to send stripper, bench seat Centurys to rentals. Changed that to relatively loaded Regals which helped sell them later to customers. Also better/easier to sell in the used car market.

    LaCrosses were well equipped CX's and CXL's (of course even the base versions are well equipped) for the executive rental program
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    It only concerns me if a model is over sold in the rental and fleet market. It usually means resale will suck.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    I usually have kept a car for 8-10 years. So I've justified the extra cost of a new vs 1 or 2 year-old car with the average cost per year being only some higher for the pleasure of a new car that first couple of years. Do you trade early enough in the life of a car that other people's valuation would vary by much due to a greater number lowering value of used models?

    I think the LaCrosse is going to do well as a used car when they are 3-5 years in.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048

    LaCrosse......6500....10700...13300..(160,000/year if they keep up this pace)
    Ford 500.......9000....8600.....13555..

    Take a look at poor Ford. The LaCrosse is selling more than the 500 which is unbelievable. I think folks should be more concerned about Ford going out of business rather than GM. They are selling a lot of Taurus's though. I assume to fleet?? I saw the Fusion this weekend and its not very exciting. G6 is all over it. They need to get away from the Audi look.

    What will be interesting is the sales for August. Of the above inventories only vary from 24000(300M) to 31000(500). (no numbers available for Lexus) Not much 2005 stock left. GM is increasing their production for their vehicles. 4rt qtr profitn should be much better.
  • sold 13,555 of the 500 based on your story
    the lacross sold 13,300, which is less.

    still that is crazy, those are some good numbers for GM, and its customers.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    bust my britches :P

    I averaged the 3 months of data and got close:)
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Even if you average the three months of data, the Five Hundred is STILL outselling the LaCrosse....

    Then there is the Montego version to add to add to that.

    So, why poor Ford?
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    LaCrosse offers great value, especially at the base level. Now with standard air curtains SABs and ABS, I only see sales going higher.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    the 500 should be out selling a Buick by quite a lot of cars. A Ford and Chevrolet have traditionally competed head to head with each other.

    If you want to throw in the Montego then you would have to throw in the Impala/Grand Prix.

    I just think the 500 is not selling as well as it should. It should be a 240,000 cars/year car.
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    LaCrosse in July had its best sales since launch, with a 25 percent increase over June sales. LaCrosse has set month-over-month sales increases in seven of eight months since its launch.

    LaCrosse in July outsold year-ago combined Century and Regal sales by 79 percent (about 5,600 units).
  • 14871487 Posts: 2,407
    There is no way sales of the 500 and lacrosse should be close. Ford is the volume brand at FoMoCo, while Buick is one of GM's smaller brands. The lacrosse will never sell as much as the mainstream Impala which would be the 500s closest GM competitor.
  • the only thing is, that the five-hundred is a different class of car than the buick (despite what edmunds thinks, since they did a comparo), its just bigger outside and in. In terms of the five hundred, the lacross is long, but thats about it.

    It is better to compare five hundred sales to impala, as you said.

    BTW that comparo was kindo trashy, the price difference between the lacross and the wineer was a whipping $4,000! I bet things would have been differnct if they equipped the avalon for only 33,000, like the buick :mad:
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    I think in real life, to most consumers, that if someone was looking at an Impala they would have both the 500 and LaCrosse in the sights. They might also look at the Avalon and the Camry but if price was a concern would drop the Avalon. Impala and LaCrosse are not that much different in interior size. They are the same architecture and share most dimensions except those controlled by styling differences (headroom, etc.)
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Have you been in the car? It does not have a pull light switch, It is a 4 position turn switch so that you can turn off the day time safety lights if you want. In fact in most if not all GM cars/trucks you do not use the lightswitch unless you have some reason to. Lights come on automatically at dusk and off when you turn off the car or drive into light for safety. Of course the safety daylight lights are on all the time.

    Whats wrong with the beeper that comes on if your turn signal is left on a long time? Another safety feature. Of course somebody my age (47) NEVER forgets to turn the signal off :blush: . Only those old unintelligent, stupid old people ever need the beeper. ;)

    Yes, Buick should have done an audi or something else knockoff. The car has some curves unlike most cars today. But styling is one area that is in the eyes of the beholder and anyones opinion is valid!
  • 62vetteefp62vetteefp Posts: 6,048
    Just read an article that 50% of LaCrosse buyers had a non GM vehicle as their 2nd choice. That is really high for a GM vehicle.

    Also said doing very little fleet on Buicks now. Retail sales are up 3% this year even though total sales are down. Looks like the LeSabre is sold out and the LuCerne will not be here for awhile.
  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    Where did you read that? Just wondering.

    I like the LaCrosse CXS a lot but looking that the new Impala, I'm wondering if Chevy (aside from the OHC engine) is offering a better car for the buck. I like the interior of the Impala in brushed aluminum form better in many ways. An LTZ with 240hp lists for about C$3000 less than a base CXS.
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