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2005 Kia Spectra/Cerato

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Corolla still has a torsion beam rear suspension, it's not even fully indy. It's a bit top heavy, both looks and feel, and it doesn't match Kia's warranty, either.

    So the Kia has several advantages worth mentioning.

    -juice
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    Hi robins! I see juice has already welcomed you, but glad you've joined in the discussion. Most folks around here are happy to share their knowledge, so if you've got question, ask away. If I can help you in any way, don't hesitate to e-mail me - my address is in my profile.

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  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Juice

    Have you driven the Corolla? Despite the rear suspension, handling has improved vastly since the last version. Yes, Kia's warranty is longer and the Spectra has more power, but the numbers show the Corolla to be one of the quickest in its class, due to a modest curb weight and smart gearing of both the 5sp manual and 4 speed auto. (Car and Driver rolling start 5-60 of 8.3 seconsd with the 5sp, for those interested). I will agree with whomever posted- the 1.8L is loud when accelerating, but cruising, the Corolla is very quiet and, along with the otherwise unexceptional ION (3), offers one of the best (smoothest) rides in the class. The Corolla also has far superior fuel economy, and resale. The rear seat is darn roomy too.

    HOWEVER, kudos to Kia for making the side curtains and side airbags standard. This car is unquestionably one of the most improved vehicles out there. (For reference, the Corolla will have side airbags and curtains option when the 2005 goes on sale this summer, as well as stability control.). I personally cant wait to drive one!

    robins- welcome!

    ~alpha
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    But four-wheel disc brakes standard even in the base Spectra. Maybe that's partly to counter buyer perceptions re problems in the past with brakes on Sephias/Spectras. I think you'll find the Spectra compares very well with the Corolla on rear seat room, cruising smoothness, and ride. The standard 6-speaker stereo is pretty nice, too. However, with current rebates ($750) and discounts on Corollas, I think Kia will have a hard time selling Spectras until they offer some rebates.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Alpha - no, actually, not recently.

    My concern with the torsion beam would not be handling, but ride, mostly over rough roads. Cars like the previous generation Maxima with a similar suspension design lose their composure over rough surfaces.

    Has Toyota tuned their suspension better than Nissan, perhaps?

    Any how, the new Kia will have to compete with the new Corolla for most its life so let's wait and see what that one looks like.

    -juice
  • coachdnycoachdny Posts: 4
    any idea if the 5 door hatch/wagon cerato/spectra be available in the states?? when and cost??
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    A Kia sales rep in the Twin Cities told me two weeks ago that the hatchbacks would be in stock in "a couple of months." So they are definitely coming.
  • lok888lok888 Posts: 1,749
    The Edmunds said 2005 Kia Spectra. The Kia (website) said all-new Spectra. My dealer said 2004 & 1/2. I don't think it is still called 2004 Spectra.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,629
    The window stickers I've seen say "2004". Not to be confused with the other 2004 Spectras on the dealer lots, of the old design.

    Note to Kia: Just call them 2005s (ala Toyota with the 2003 Corolla) and get it over with! It's only five months until September.
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    Yeah, when I was searching for a printed answer to coachdny's question, I found the available info pretty confusing - some sites list the 04 Spectra and the all-new Spectra. The 04 clearly has a hatchback version, while the details on the all-new, improved softness, fortified with calcium version are vague.

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  • lok888lok888 Posts: 1,749
    Checked one local dealer (Boch Kia) and they have it as 2004 & 1/2 model. My dealer (Quirk Kia) said the same thing. BTW, my dealer still has 2003 model left.
  • shakeypshakeyp Posts: 4
    Hello all New here.

    Just noticed your discussion about the 2005 KIA Spectra. I was searching around online and stumbled on here.

    I actually purchased a 2005 KIA Spectra last week and i must say i cant stop driving the car. and I'll probably run out my warranty withing 2 years lol. Ive had it for a week and I have 1600 kilometeres on it already.

    But if you are looking for a good deal for its money The spectra is it.

    Just a quick brag I bought the second 2005 model in Canada. :) first one in Ontario.
    and i have soem great plans for this car its a real head turner :)
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    Hi shakeyp, and welcome to Town Hall! So glad to hear that you're pleased with your purchase. I'm sure other enthusiasts would be interested in hearing about the details of your purchasing & driving experience, if you've got the time & inclination.

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  • lok888lok888 Posts: 1,749
    Anyone bought one here in U.S.? I want to know what Kia put on the window sticker. It maybe different for Canadian market. I have to go to my dealer and test drive one. Yeah. Canadian only gets three years basic bumper-to-bumper warranty.
  • robinsrobins Posts: 2
    Hi lok888

    The warranty on any Kia product in Canada is 5yr bumper to bumper. 5-5-5 totally transferable! Apparently, they have just introduced oil changes for life this month???

    Thanks all for the fine welcome!!

    Welcome Shakeyp! I too live in Ontario (NWO). Thanks for the input on your new vehicle, I'm glad you like it. We will probably be purchasing one as well, drove it last weekend and fell in love with it. We want something dependable as second vehicle yet good on gas as we do alot of commuting back and forth work. I wish there was some clear reviews out there on this vehicle, in time I am sure there will be many.

    Thanks again everyone for the warm welcome.. Robin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I thought it was 2 years of free service, that's what the Sedona ads say.

    Perhaps your dealer was offering that?

    -juice
  • shakeypshakeyp Posts: 4
    It is a 5 year 100,000km comprehensive, 5 year 100,000 km power train, 5 years road side assistance.

    but alittle more input for yas about the car. I recentley took it down to toronto and got the chance to actually open it up on the 401(freeway if you will) Ill just say this at 190 km/h in 5th gear it was only running at 5000 rpm. The dealership said the redline for the standards are actually at 7200 rpm and not 6500 as marked on the tach.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Driving at speeds of 115-120 MPH is the opposite of how you're supposed to break-in new vehicles.

    ~alpha
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,663
    yeah, I was told with my Sportage 4x4 purchase in Sept.2001 to not exceed 60mph for the first 1000 miles. I actually stuck to that, too. It wasn't easy but, well, you know! Any American 2004 1/2 Kia Spectra buyers jump in here and detail away, OK? Getting suddenly interesting in here!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • shakeypshakeyp Posts: 4
    The cars already been broken in before i did that.
    Like i said previously if i keep going my warranty will be up in 2 year isntead of 5.

    it has 3000km on it already :)
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