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2005 Kia Spectra/Cerato

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  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    Hopefully Kia will come out with a sportier version of the car! :)
  • a Tiburon-competer or high-performance WRX competition. It is already improved over the Sephia and later the 2002-2003 Spectra with it's chassis similar to Elantra and it's CVVT engine. That engine will save on gas and reduce on pollution. The body is a new design and the little spoiler is cool as are those ridges along the front wheel wells. A very smart design to this new Spectra.
       That having been said, has everyone seen the Kia sports car they were showing this year at auto shows? They have had this one on the design board for a while now but don't produce it...it's called KCV-3 or KCM-3 or something like that. You can see it(you probably have already seen a picture of it on the net somewhere)on the Kia Worldwide site. It really looks sharp. I would love to see them put out a true sports car and possibly a pickup truck in the coming years.

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  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    Noticed on another forum that someone mentioned Kia was planning to do something similar to what Honda is doing with safety equipment. Honda has said that by 2007 I think it is that 99% of all cars and trucks will have side curtain airbags and ABS STANDARD. This is excluding the Insight, S2000, and NSX.

    I have seen the article about Honda doing this but has anyone seen an article stating Kia was doing the same thing? If this is true then it leads me to believe that the Spectra will offer side curtain airbags.

    By the way, I hope they offer a trim with beige leather, nice alloys, and side curtain airbags/ABS. Basically like the current Hyundai Elantra GT except with a choice of beige leather instead and also leave off the black trim on the exterior. I like the body-colored trim on the outside better and the chrome exterior door handles.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should dump the Insight, as the Civic Hybrid has replaced it as Honda's hybrid model.
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    I'm surprised these things were made standard. These are a big plus. Something about the styling though that doesn't appeal to me. It's not bad or anything, but in a way looks outdated already.

    One thing that sort of bothers me is the buttons below the hole in the dash. In one picture there is one button on the left side (I think it's the rear defogger) but the rest of dash has a hole. In another picture the button is moved to the second position and now the hole is filled in with blank buttons. In either case it looks kind of cheap.

    Speaking of the hole in the dash, I would pay for a cassette player or something just to fill it in. The Elantra is the same way, this is something that cheapens the interior IMO.

    I'm also disappointed that it looks like the interior door handles won't be chrome and the buttons on the parking brake and automatic transmission won't be chrome either. Would have made the interior seem a bit more upscale as well. These are all minor things but kind of takes away from the interior.

    I'm also worried about getting ABS. It's only available on the EX trim and Hyundai has a habit of making it difficult to get ABS and sometimes forcing a moonroof to get ABS.

    It'll come down to pricing and how they set up the option packages. Also how the interior looks in person will be a significant factor for me as well. I plan to keep the car for 5-10 years hopefully and having a good interior is important to me.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Has there been a press release on the Cerato? How do you know that 4 wheel discs and side curtains have been made standard. This is a very smart move by Kia/Hyundais part, will allow this car to pass the new, dynamic IIHS side impact test without modification. However, I hear your concern on the ABS issue. This car seems like it will be quite the competitor.

    ~alpha
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Check out the report on the 2005 Spectra from the Detroit Auto Show on the Edmunds.com home page--it references the disc brakes, bags and other goodies. Also it mentions the "new" engine--which by the specs looks to me a lot like the engine in the '04 Elantra. I find it hard to believe that Hyundai/Kia would develop a brand-new engine for the Spectra that is that close in specs to the Beta engine in the Elantra.
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    If you go to kia.com you can get one there. Here is a link that should have it.

    http://www.kia.com/010604.php
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    Here is the one I was talking about with one button but the rest of the area next to it is void.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629232_pv.jpg

    And here is the one with the buttons filled in but they all seem blank except one. I know lots of cars have blank buttons here and there in them just on this car it's very noticeable and there's three of them clearly visible.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629212_pv.jpg

    I'm guessing this blue one is the one with the body kit and 16" alloys only available on the EX trim.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629354_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629334_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629015_pv.jpg

    This red one is probably the EX trim with optional 15" alloys.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629312_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629292_pv.jpg

    Other pictures

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628996_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628903_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628841_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628939_pv.jpg

    There's a few more on that site as well.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    reminds me of a Honda Civic, at the wheels. Looks a lot like the accesory wheels Honda offers on the Civic.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    Also I think the C pillar is very similar to the C pillar on the '92-'95 Civic 4-door.

    I've seen a few articles on the new Spectra and it's interesting how positive they have been--the one I saw yesterday in USA Today was particularly glowing. If this car is as good as its press, Kia will have a winner.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    At NAIAS, just this past Wednesday. Looks good in person, better even than the photos. I like the outside better than the inside.

    They had 2 EX models.

    Two things impressed me right away: the headliner had a fabric cover and was softly padded. You usually don't see that at this price level, usually it's that cheap mouse fur. Maybe base models get that.

    The other nice touch was the fabric on the seats. It felt very plush, like a soft velour. Again, stuff you don't typically see at this price level.

    The rest of the interior was class average, i.e. cheap carpets and so-so plastics.

    The Kia stand got little attention. Hyundai did better with the HCD8 and more crowds.

    -juice
  • and 4-wheel discs? Those are apparently going to be options for the new Spectra. The last pics I saw of the new Spectra at the Detroit show made the front appear to sit higher than I had seen it previously. The blue they painted that Spectra was very nice and the red one I saw the other day on the Kia site both look very good. I'm curious what Kia will price the new Spectra at...I'm guessing an MSRP of around $13,500 w/ some decent appointings at that price. If so, this car will sell very well for Kia. These will be at dealers in March of 2004, according to Kia.

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    would do fine for me. Side Curtains, a nice interior, and a decent engine. Kia has a winner. Even without tossing $1000 cash it does right now on Sedonas and Sorentos.
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    "Those are apparently going to be options for the new Spectra."

    Why would 4-wheel discs and side curtain airbags be optional? The press release clearly states they are standard on all Spectras.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The blue paint was indeed very sharp.

    -juice
  • ABS....does only the EX model get side curtain air bags and 4-wheel disc brakes? Also, if it gets 4-wheels discs does that NECESSARILY mean that it also has ABS braking? I'm guessing that what they usually call the LX, or lower-priced model, won't get all of these appointments.

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Will they offer a Navy Blue? Or will the bright almost neon blue be the only blue offered?
  • and the EX models(all 2004 Spectra's) get 4-wheel disc brakes and full side curtain airbags. Only the EX model can be equipped with optional ABS brakes.

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  • yugoboyyugoboy Posts: 161
    Wow what a great looking car, amazing for the price point, cant wait for the hatch to come out, if it looks half as good as the sedan i will be the first in line. Here is a good link, check it out!!!!!

    http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Kia.spy?artid=1- 9132&pg=1
  • Has anyone seen photos of the hatchback? The sedan is nice but a little senior for me. I do not buy sedans. If anyone has seen photos, is there a difference in the style like the present spectra's?
  • concerning the new '04 Kia Spectra hatchback body style(or anything else about it). If anyone does find something please post it on here, OK?

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I haven't seen anything, but if I do, I'll post.
  • of the new Kia Spectra. This article calls it the 2005 Kia Spectra but I think Kia wants it to be called the 2004 Kia Spectra. It is a very favorable review and it mentions that Canadians will be paying $1,100 more for the base model than last year's Kia Spectra base model. The side curtain airbags are praised as are the 4-wheels discs and the available options are discussed here including body variants like a front spoiler and rear valence. BTW-this blue Kia is making this Spectra model in LOOKS VERY NICE TO ME! The new Spectra and new Sportage and new Hyundai Tuscon are all front runners on my list now. Here's the link.

    http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/roadtest,view,Kia.spy?artid=2- - 0718

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  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    will still make it cheaper than the Civic in the states.
  • above you can see what great a BARGAIN the new 2004 Kia Spectra really is. For many reasons but one good one are those side curtain airbags being installed as STANDARD equipment on this handsome little car. That design is starting to make me forget about Hyundai's GT V6 Tiburon and to me that is saying a lot! The article mentions pricing coming out a little bit closer to delivery time to the U.S.(late spring) but if it's close to my estimate of $13,299(it will be)it's a great deal, especially with the Long Haul, and that's why it's going to be very difficult for anyone to compete with the HyunKia small-vehicle import machine that is chugging ever-so-nicely along.
        Additonal thought on the new Spectra: the European model 2004 Spectra will be Kia's first diesel engine offerings in their history. There will be two diesel variants in Europe offered for Spectra. All Spectra's imported to the U.S.will have CVVT engines which will cut down on emissions and improve gas mileage. I pulled consistent 28-32 mpg results on my '99 Sephia when I had it, so I was never really down on the Sephia for those type of numbers, anyway. The link above from the Canadian car site mentions Kia saying that the new Spectra will get 25mpg city and 34 mpg highway with the automatic transmission option.

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,784
    If Kia wants the all-new Spectra to be called a 2004 model, then what are the cars that my local Kia dealers are selling as "2004 Spectras" that are the design that has been around for several years? Won't that be confusing?
  • It was confusing to me when I first heard of the Cerato/Spectra and Kia referring to it as the 2005 Kia Spectra coming out in the spring of 2004(As a 2005 model, I thought). Subsequent articles from Kia called the new Spectra the "2004 Kia Spectra" so we'll need to get set straight on this question. Any thoughts on this anyone?

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  • Sounds like the Volkswagen strategy. I imagine I stand with a lot of other parts dealers when I say that I hate that system, because it results in exchanges like this:

    Customer: "I need a hubcap for a 1999 Golf GL."
    Me: "The new '99 or the old '99?"
    Customer: "What?"

    I hope they will just call it an '05.

    -Andrew L
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