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2005 Kia Spectra/Cerato

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  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    lancer sportbak too
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Are they really set with strong sales? Im not so sure. I'm a Toyo fan, but the twins are underpowered with 1.8L/auto combination. The higher performance 1.8L VVTLi engine isnt very practical, with its incredibly narrow band of extra power over the base model in the upper 6000s.

    In fact, Id like to see the new Kia kick the Matrix's you know what. Toyota messed up, IMO.

    ~alpha
  • Get ready everyone! The 05 Kia Spectra will be unveiled soon!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I wouldn't call Matrix/Vibe sales exactly wonderful. The Toyota dealer has quite a few Matrix wagons in stock and ready to go while the Pontiac dealer keeps a large selection of Vibes. Then again, the Pontiac dealer has even more Sunfires and Grand Ams.
  • about this new offering from Kia. Kia held a travelling sales show to sell Cerato's in their homeland in their attempts to waken slow domestic sales. Early sales seem good but I'll have to check some sources to see if they met Kia Motors expectations for the South Korean market. Really looking forward to the Detroit Motor Show in Jan.2004 and seeing this new 4-door Kia Spectra!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • I'm wondering if the 05 Spectra's 140HP will be enough for this class. Everyone seems to be beefing up their compacts. The Suzuki Aerio makes 155HP, the Corolla XRS makes 170HP, the upcoming Focus ST will have more than 150HP, the Lancer has 160HP, etc. Maybe Kia will eventually put more displacement!
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    ever thought of making a performance version of the Spectra/Cerato for less $$$$ than what Ford charges for the SVT versions of the Focus?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I don't think the Spectra's hp is behind at all. You are trying to compare the regular Spectra to the most expensive performance versions of its competitors (except the Aerio). Compare it to the regular versions of those cars and it's near the front of the pack: 140 compared to 115 in Civic, 130 in Corolla, 136 in Focus, and 120 in Lancer. That being said, I hope Kia and Hyundai make a statement by offering a higher powered version to compete with the performance versions.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    This is something that Hyundai or Kia should to. The Tiburon is fine and all, but it's more of a small GT, if you will, not a sports car.

    Remember the HCD1 concept? It was supposed to be a 150hp roadster for $15k, but it never materialized.

    If they could do one today, for even $25k, it would bring people in to the showrooms.

    -juice
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    will be on par with the Cobalt's Ecotec making 140 horsepower in base form.
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    Hopefully Kia will come out with a sportier version of the car! :)
  • a Tiburon-competer or high-performance WRX competition. It is already improved over the Sephia and later the 2002-2003 Spectra with it's chassis similar to Elantra and it's CVVT engine. That engine will save on gas and reduce on pollution. The body is a new design and the little spoiler is cool as are those ridges along the front wheel wells. A very smart design to this new Spectra.
       That having been said, has everyone seen the Kia sports car they were showing this year at auto shows? They have had this one on the design board for a while now but don't produce it...it's called KCV-3 or KCM-3 or something like that. You can see it(you probably have already seen a picture of it on the net somewhere)on the Kia Worldwide site. It really looks sharp. I would love to see them put out a true sports car and possibly a pickup truck in the coming years.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    Noticed on another forum that someone mentioned Kia was planning to do something similar to what Honda is doing with safety equipment. Honda has said that by 2007 I think it is that 99% of all cars and trucks will have side curtain airbags and ABS STANDARD. This is excluding the Insight, S2000, and NSX.

    I have seen the article about Honda doing this but has anyone seen an article stating Kia was doing the same thing? If this is true then it leads me to believe that the Spectra will offer side curtain airbags.

    By the way, I hope they offer a trim with beige leather, nice alloys, and side curtain airbags/ABS. Basically like the current Hyundai Elantra GT except with a choice of beige leather instead and also leave off the black trim on the exterior. I like the body-colored trim on the outside better and the chrome exterior door handles.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should dump the Insight, as the Civic Hybrid has replaced it as Honda's hybrid model.
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    I'm surprised these things were made standard. These are a big plus. Something about the styling though that doesn't appeal to me. It's not bad or anything, but in a way looks outdated already.

    One thing that sort of bothers me is the buttons below the hole in the dash. In one picture there is one button on the left side (I think it's the rear defogger) but the rest of dash has a hole. In another picture the button is moved to the second position and now the hole is filled in with blank buttons. In either case it looks kind of cheap.

    Speaking of the hole in the dash, I would pay for a cassette player or something just to fill it in. The Elantra is the same way, this is something that cheapens the interior IMO.

    I'm also disappointed that it looks like the interior door handles won't be chrome and the buttons on the parking brake and automatic transmission won't be chrome either. Would have made the interior seem a bit more upscale as well. These are all minor things but kind of takes away from the interior.

    I'm also worried about getting ABS. It's only available on the EX trim and Hyundai has a habit of making it difficult to get ABS and sometimes forcing a moonroof to get ABS.

    It'll come down to pricing and how they set up the option packages. Also how the interior looks in person will be a significant factor for me as well. I plan to keep the car for 5-10 years hopefully and having a good interior is important to me.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Has there been a press release on the Cerato? How do you know that 4 wheel discs and side curtains have been made standard. This is a very smart move by Kia/Hyundais part, will allow this car to pass the new, dynamic IIHS side impact test without modification. However, I hear your concern on the ABS issue. This car seems like it will be quite the competitor.

    ~alpha
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Check out the report on the 2005 Spectra from the Detroit Auto Show on the Edmunds.com home page--it references the disc brakes, bags and other goodies. Also it mentions the "new" engine--which by the specs looks to me a lot like the engine in the '04 Elantra. I find it hard to believe that Hyundai/Kia would develop a brand-new engine for the Spectra that is that close in specs to the Beta engine in the Elantra.
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    If you go to kia.com you can get one there. Here is a link that should have it.

    http://www.kia.com/010604.php
  • pzevpzev Posts: 807
    Here is the one I was talking about with one button but the rest of the area next to it is void.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629232_pv.jpg

    And here is the one with the buttons filled in but they all seem blank except one. I know lots of cars have blank buttons here and there in them just on this car it's very noticeable and there's three of them clearly visible.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629212_pv.jpg

    I'm guessing this blue one is the one with the body kit and 16" alloys only available on the EX trim.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629354_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629334_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629015_pv.jpg

    This red one is probably the EX trim with optional 15" alloys.

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629312_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010629292_pv.jpg

    Other pictures

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628996_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628903_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628841_pv.jpg

    http://x.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2004/01/06/WKA2004010628939_pv.jpg

    There's a few more on that site as well.
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