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Suzuki Verona

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  • jkobty2jkobty2 Posts: 210
    Rough idle or stalling problems with Daewoos are 99 out of 100 times because of a clogged fuel injector. 2 options
    1. Detect which fuel injector is bad and replace it.
    2. Perform a professional fuel injection service.
    3. Only use regular 87 octane unleaded. daewoos seem to be sensitive to fuel additives.
    I doubt it has anything to do with the ECM. Suzuki really does not know because this car is not a Suzuki and they have not had any experience with it.

    Try the above and thank me later.
  • Suzuki is aware of the problem, I have spoken with the rep today. He tells me the computer is "rebooting" and that causes the stalls. My selling dealer in Alabama is aware of the problem, and so is my servicing dealer in Ohio. It IS a problem with the car. The problem is for US and Canadaian models ONLY, it is a SOFTWARE problem, from what I told. If I had a Euro or Korean spec ECM, it would be fine. Seems they rushed the ECM programming to get it to the US and Canadian markets...

    My first stall happened on THE DAY I TOOK DELIEVERY of the car, with less than 50 miles on it. No way it is an injector.
  • I have ONLY used 87, the prices of gas, its all I want to spend. I NEVER use alcohol gas, and I use only name brand, BP, Shell, etc...

    Like I said, they say they have a fix, ECM software upgrade, BUT they have to get EPA approval first, since it will change the emissions...
  • jkobty2jkobty2 Posts: 210
    If it was a general software problem with the US and Canada models, then it should be a problem on all the cars, not a few of them. So how come very few people are getting this problem?
  • That question the rep did not know, but the NHTSA, my selling and servicing dealers, as well as Suzuki are aware of this problem. When the fix is approved, I am sure that all Veronas will get the upgrade.

    I was surprised when I found all the complaints to the NHTSA on the car for the same problems I have been having...

    The other one with exactly the same problem as mine that was repurchased by Suzuki also has a cold idle problem, as mine does.

    I was also told that when it stalls, the computer reboots to "new" so there are no codes stored, and the "fuzzy" settings are lost.
  • russm3russm3 Posts: 44
    This is a mess your having. I think you may have to wait to get this right. Now it seems to me that suzuki and gm daewoo would be working on this problem day and night to get it right. Also it does sound like a massive recall. Hope everything works out for you.My problems are a drawn out shift between 2nd and 3rd. Like you would pop a clutch. Dealer had it a week said he did a adjustment. Don't think so drove it home last night and will be calling him today!
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    How can recalls of Suzuki Verona be called massive? As of May 31, calendar year to date sales (5 months) have been less than 7000 units.

    If all are recalled it might be massive for the model, but it is a drop in the bucket in the automotive world.

    This also means that there is likely not a huge work force of staff working on the problem. Good luck, I think you may need it.

    This is may be part of the perils of buying a car from a very small manufacturer. I wonder how parts availability and prices for these parts will be a few years down the road for a very limited volume car?
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    Hello back friends. I was very busy and away on vacation. So I missed some of the action in our forums. It is sad that "imissmy verona" has faced serious problems. Reading from the forum so far, I find a couple of serious cases. Most of the users seem to be happy with the car. Here's my experience so far.
    Number of stalls = none
    Cold starts = none.
    A/c electrical problems = none
    Running = very smooth.
    Fuel used = 87 octane.
    Oil= 5W30 with starburst symbol.
    Complaints = none so far.
    I wonder if eric's car is a lemon?
    I must say that you have to get used to the nuances of the car like..the car improves after 3000 miles. If your car does'nt kick the first time, wait for 10 secs before firing it again.
    Be careful of the fuel you put in. Use the same pump always if possible.

    good luck with the car eric.
  • Suzuki said the 05 verona will be out in October. They called me today and they will be trading me out for another Verona EX. I just wanted to test drive it for a few hours to make sure its not going to die on me....
  • russm3russm3 Posts: 44
    well now will have to change your name to idon'tmissmyveronanomore hehe just havin some fun.
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    In the latest issue of PM (Homebuilt H-Bombs), there is a spy photo of the next generation Daewoo Magnus. I had seen that exact photo somewhere else on the web recently but I can'r remember it. BTW, the picture REALLY is a spy photo of the next Magnus. I suggest all of you go out and read the latest issue of PM! Oh, and if I find that picture, I'll be sure to post it here! :-D
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    Hi,
    Its a long time since I've seen posts of veronaowner, lil20300, alpha and other regulars. A note about the irritable engine check light that has some Verona owners perplexed. One of the main reasons is that the sensors of the gas cap are senstive to moisture or improper closure. If you reclose the fuel cap with three turns, the problem goes away. Also the closure plate is not well designed as it allows rain water to get inside and around the fuel cap. Suzuki should put a rubber gasket lining to prevent water from swishing around the fuel cap. On wiping the area dry the engine check light vanishes. That is not to say that this is the only cause. Fuel quality also seems to affect the computer. In all cases I think its best for Suzuki dealers to address the issue and for Suzuki to remedy the defects.
  • I have not had the problems described here with my Verone EX, but then I have less that 3000 miles
    on the car and purchased it last Oct. I had the right rear seat belt replaced as it locked up and would not extend to go over a person in the seat.
    I had a problem with a Sun roof part that caused a rattle and the part was replaced. Confusion of the type oil which has now been acknowledged by the dealer and they have the proper oil (5W-30).
    I have had a few seconds of rough engine running when first started. It goes away in less than a minute.
    I hope I excape the problems experienced by imissmyverona and a couple of others on this board. I need to get more miles on mine to check it out.
    Enjoy your Verona, I enjoy mine.
  • lil302000lil302000 Posts: 149
    Just to let you know we have 18,000 miles on our Verona, with the exception of the air bag recall all is well. rasup is correct if make sure the gas cap is good and tight the light will not come on. I have done the same thing you have done with the hesitation issue just let it run a minute and it smooths out. I have no reason to believe that GM and Suzuki will not find a software upgrade for the ECM. We have to remember this is a first year run for this engine and bugs can happen. The key will be the fix, GMDAT have to work and get it out as soon as possible to keep us buying the product. Being that I have had a few cars in my life this is not new to me, I had a 76 Chevy pick up with an I6 that would give you whiplash if you didn't let it warm up but it ran and ran and ran.
  • isles7983isles7983 Posts: 2
    Back in January I went to a Suzuki dealer because I was in desperate need of a new car(My '99 Pontiac Grand AM kept breaking down, I would never recommend a Pontiac to anyone). My plan was to purchase a Verona. The salesman couldn't get the car started...Sign #1. Over the next couple of weeks I looked into a few other vehicles, the Mazda 3, Nissan Altima, and another Verona at another dealership(this one started, but shifted awkwardly...Sign #2). After test driving all 3 I narrowed it down to the Mazda 3 and Nissan Altima. Due to limited availability of the Mazda 3 I had no problem deciding on the Altima. I'm glad I did...12,000 miles later...no problems and it starts and runs like a GEM!
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    So you came all this way to say not to buy a Verona???....ok.....
  • lil302000lil302000 Posts: 149
    We tested the Nissan as well, we bought the Verona better price and higher quality build, especially the interior. Almost a year 18,000 miles and no real problems just let her run for a minute like I do with the motorcycle.
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    I appreciate the fact that each one has his own preference, but I went through the same channels--I test drove Mazda, Altima, Camry and Accord. I picked Verona for its price value and smoothness. I am happy that I did. The Car sales company in your case did not do the homework. I have 3300 miles and the Car runs superb. Not to say that Altima was one of my choices among the above. But go to mycarstats.com and read of the trouble tales of Altima owners and you realise that every car has some units that simply are not prepared and checked prior to sales. The dealer is respnsible for not checking out the cars and following the Company criteria in such cases.
    The Verona is a very good car. I'm afraid you missed a good chance of giving it a try.
  • I hated to do it, but Suzuki kept changing their mind about trading me out of it, etc, And getting *&@#ing tired of paying on a car and not having it, being in the show well over a month, I have retained an attorney today to force Suzuki to repurchase the car.

    They have no fix yet, www.nhtsa.gov has over a dozen complaints on stalling, and this is NOT what I paid for.

    Under Ohio law, I get back all my money, payments, tax, extendand warranty, not even a pro-rated amount for use.

    What do I intent to do after I get the refund? Wait it out, see if and when Suzuki gets the fix, then I will probably get a 2005 Verona, or the restyled 05 Sonata/Optima, or possible a Kia Amanti.

    Has anyone gone to NHTSA and seen all the compalints?

    Cheers!
  • http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/complain/complaintsear- ch.cfm

    Not user friendly. But you can see the complaints on this and any other car.
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