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Suzuki Verona

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  • "Of the two Verona's I've owned, the '05 was a bit worse at the gas mileage, getting about 13mpg in town and about 20 town/freeway combined."

    Wow! I'm getting 19mph city and 27mph highway with my '05.... I guess driving habits mean alot for mpg.
  • mm9351mm9351 Posts: 72
    Anyone on the board have this problem? The Low Fuel indicator light stopped working; yesterday was running on empty (needle on E) but light failed to illuminate. Not a big deal, but almost ran out of gas, I was just not paying attention. :blush:

    Otherwise my Verona EX continues to be an excellent car all-around, smooth, powerful, and just a reliable, comfortable mode of transportation.

    Don't be misled by the negative posts; this is really a great car.
  • I replaced the 205/55/16 tires on my Verona EX with Goodyear Assurance Comfortred tires. Despite the contrary recommendation of the tire salesperson, I changed the tire size to 205/60/16. The increased height plus the Comfortred design makes the car noticeably quieter on our rough Oregon gravel road. It rides noticeably better, also. I like the looks of the car better with the wheel wells filled out a bit more.

    The middle number of the tire dimensions refer to the tire height--on just one side, not both sides added--as a percentage of the tire width. For the 60 versus 55 sidewall height, the final total difference in tire height is about.82 inches. My difference was a bit more because the old tires had worn off most of the tire tread. I am happy with my tire choice, however other excellent choices exist.
  • evergreenevergreen Posts: 208
    I agree. My 04 EX has been a great car. Regarding the Low Fuel Light, i rarely let the gas get that low but have a few times. As I recall, the light is kind of hard to see in bright light. Also, it seemed to turn off after a while and didn't stay lit until I got some gas. So if I missed that period when it was on, it would appear to be not working. I don't know if that is the way it is suppose to be, but mine has always been that way. Seems a little odd, but every car has its quirks.
  • evergreenevergreen Posts: 208
    How many miles did you get on the originals? I have 34,000 on mine and they look like they will last another 7-10k. The car is so darned quiet (motor and wind) that about all you hear are the tires. I would imagine that when you wear out one set, the new ones will always be quieter
  • My wife and I bought our 2005 Verona new in march of 05 and now have 18000 miles on it, overall we very happy with it. I started getting concerned when I noticed Suzuki was not going to have a 2007 model so did a google search and found this site. I see why they axed it, I have noticed a few sputtering issues on 4 different occasions I thought it was bad gas. When I took it to the dealer for my 15000 mile oil change I told the service manager about it and they of course could not find anything wrong. Now that I found this site I see just about everyone is have the SAME problems. Why cant suzuki figure it out? They must know they have a problem or they would not have cut the car that soon. I now run 89 oct in it and have not had any problems so far. It sounds to me this German engineered engine has compression issues. Despite all this I still like the car, im looking forward to the 08 but I see it is still built in Korea. If I trade in it wont be until 08, prob will a big hit on the trade in value but I wont keep this car passed 36000 miles or march of 08 when my bumber to bumber is up. In college I had a 1991 VW GTI and it was only a few years old and it had the same engine problems with no dealer resolve.
  • liyahliyah Posts: 1
    Yesterday my check engine soon light came on. I also had a head light out at the same time. My Verona has 47,000 miles on it, it is an 04'. I found out that the check engine soon light came on because of the coil went out in it. I am only running on 5 cylinders instead of 6. The place that we purchased the car from was a Ford dealer, they quit dealing with Suzuki soon after we got the car. I used to go out to Dodge in Florence,KY and get my parts and have my car serviced. But I just found out that they quit dealing with Suzuki. I tried contacting another Suzuki dealing in Cincinnati, OH but they haven't got back with me.
    Does any one know where I can get a coil? It seems to me like it is going to be hard to fix these cars if no one can get the parts. I have a mechanic that has called alot of places looking for that part with no luck.

    I live around the Cincinnati are in Northern KY if any one can help. My car sounds sick and I am hoping I can find the part soon, hopefully they won't have to order it from Japan (that is what the dealer used to tell me)
  • Here is an online source for parts I Found. They seem to have a good selection.

    http://suzukipartspeople.com/
  • tonyc4tonyc4 Posts: 14
    Wow, excellent site (suzukipartspeople.com) Nice to know what were up against if something breaks. Coilpacks are $52.
    After reading some of the posts I highly recommend using premium fuel, I use 91 octane. When I have used regular grade the engine felt weak and unresponsive. If your interested in power I recommend the following changes, remove the weather-strip in front of the intake. It's a 5 inch strip and takes a minute to remove. I also removed the intake resonator located behind the inner fenderwell, this was difficult but the skinned knuckles are worth it. Now the engine can breathe properly. I also replaced the stock muffler (more of an exhaust plug) with a magnaflow straight thru muffler ($150) dont worry, it's as quiet as the standard muffler. Good results, no more wheezing, plus the car now storms up illegal speeds, effortlessly..There's not much in it at redline but the mid-range is excellent, just like a straight six should be. Mileage has also improved slightly..a win-win result...
  • :sick: :sick: :sick: I have had my new car into the dealer 6 times 4 times for the same thing. There is less that 6000 miles on it had it over a year cause I am scared to drive it far. I loose power and the engine light flashes on. They have changed, re booted computer even changed plugs and still not fixed the problem. Upon researching this car I have found 2 others with the same problems but no follow ups.
  • blkbobblkbob Posts: 36
    poulsbokid, at 6000 miles I'd check the Lemon Laws if they're available in your state; that would be my first suggestion. If you qualify, try to return that "appliance" back to Suzuki. Second, if consumer laws aren't your answer, get a Suzuki rep out to your dealership. It sounds like a typical case of the service department not caring how many times you come back(not to say the rep will be anymore sympathetic). Third, and this is the worst option, eat the cost, trade out and save yourself years of ulcers.
    They will continue to replace, flash and reprogram the computers, replace components and your car will still stall out. You'll only succumb to a life of constantly taking time off from work to get your car fixed, seeing the service staff more than your family and fear of pulling into traffic. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO, KEEP ALL PAPERWORK AND DOCUMENT EVENTS. On another note, you must not have read back far enough, more than 2 people have your problem. Also, in case you didn't know, the Korean plant that made the Verona was publically blasted for quality problems by Suzuki HQ. Being discontinued after a run for three years also for poor marketing and sales probably doesn't help your digestion either, does it poulsbokid? In case you think I'm an anti-foreign car geezer I'm just reiterating what I have already been through: 11 visits for my 2005 Verona with 17,000 miles for power loss and engine stalling. Suzuki still can find the answer to my (our) problems and only gave me an extended warranty on the engine if the same problem arises after 36,000 miles. Unfortunately I'm going to follow my own advice and eat the cost and trade out. :(
  • mm9351mm9351 Posts: 72
    This NY winter has been rough on my Verona. While most would say it's been relatively mild, the last few weeks of cold temperatures / snow / ice has eventually worked its way into the LHS headlight assembly. The entire lens had become fogged out with moisture droplets. I've seen a few others on this board with the same problem, but needlessly replaced the assy ($$$). But I have a fix (and it's free). Open the hood, remove the 3 headlight attachment screws; remove the two electrical harnesses, work the assembly out of the grill / bumper. Next remove the rear hatch covered by two wire clamps, remove the high beam bulb, insert a hair dryer in the bulb port set to high to heat the entire inner volume, then blow out using high compressed air. Let the unit "vent" in a warm room with the bulb and rear hatch removed for a few hours, and the condensation completely clears!

    As a final note, my 04 EX with 26.5K totally trouble-free miles still looks / drives like new! After the headlight repair I changed the oil and filter; rotated the tires (still original); self- installed the pre-painted color matched rear spoiler w/ LED brake light on ebay for $142 and added the trunk convenience net. Then I detailed the entire car with McGuires #2 and removed with a buffing wheel. The paint still shines like glass.

    I know not everyone on this board shares this opinion, but the Verona continues to impress all who see & drive in it. Everyone comments how strong the engine feels. The inline 6 definitely likes to be pushed hard and delivers torque smoothly and efficiently. Although hp is only rated 155, torque is up around 180 ft lb and you really feel it kick in at any rpm, particularly with the latest flash on my transmission TCM.

    Coming up on 3 years with the Verona and I have absolutely no regrets!
  • :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
    Well since I last posted my car has been in the shop for 2 weeks. My husband called and the parts just showed up that day and its suppose to be fixed today.... We shall see I am keeping all the fix slips but none of them say the same thing even though I have brought it in for the same thing. Since this is a safety issue I am starting the paper work to have it be bought back.
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  • Well got the car back 18 days later and the person who wrote it up wrote on the fix list that it had been brought in 3 previous times for the same thing. so yea for my side. they put 100 miles on it and use a 1/4 tank of gas. replaced oxygen sensor again and the catalytic converter so time will tell.
  • I bought a new 2006 Verona with 17 miles on it in March 2007. At 1,100 miles the engine light came on followed by the engine jerking on the highway and engine stalling at complete stops. The dealership refunded my money only after I got my finance company involved. The finance company had not cut a check for the dealership yet and threatened not to if the dealership sold me a non-working car. And then I come across this forum and others!! My God, I thought I bought just a rare bad apple but now I read that I didn't. I guess I'm lucky this happened so early. I think I would have been more enraged than I already am if this happened to me at 20k miles or, worse, after 36k miles. If the Verona was supposed to be their flagship then I feel sorry not just for their 'victims' but for the Suzuki Corporation.
  • pasukpasuk Posts: 9
    I have a 2005 Verona that has visited the dealership at least 8-10 times over the course of 2 years. I too have experienced many of the problems that others have shared through this forum: irratic idoling, loss/surge power, gas pedal vibrating underfoot, stalling, etc. I have had the car in at least one other time for the above problems. Recently the problem has become much worse. I am headed once again to the dealership. Before I do so, any suggestions for a frustrated Verona owner? At 28,000 miles, I am closing in to the completion of the 36,000 warranty.

    Should I get the Suzuki regional rep involved now? How do I track down the total cost of repairs to date that have been completed under warranty? Should I be pushing for an extended warranty now?

    As I said, closing in on 36,000 miles fast and after reading this forum am very concerned. Advice welcome.
  • poulsbokidpoulsbokid Posts: 13
    Well in my case it has been the same thing for the last four times to the dealer. They had it for 3 weeks last time. they changed the catalytic converter and oxygen sensors this last time. So far so good. I do think if you had that many problems to get them involved it really sucks that I spend most of my time waiting for my new car to be fixed. I have almost 7000 miles on it and I have had it for 16 months. Good luck and check out the lemon laws in your state for what you have to do. It takes months here in Washington.
  • blkbobblkbob Posts: 36
    pasuk, first thing you should do is get your hands on every repair bill involved with the car. The service department should have gave you a copy each trip--whether or not they fixed anything. If you didn't retain go back and ask for a copy of each, at the minimum a printout of the repair history. Don't take excuses if they resist, the most important thing is that you show proof you are taking care of your car. Secondly, if the service department can't fix your stalling issues, get a Suzuki rep on the phone--(800)934-0934. Being that stalling is a bonified safety issue, you have every right to get them involved right here and now. Third, bone up on your State's Lemon Law for worst case scenarios, Suzuki replacing,buying back or repaying you for their "appliance" is very, very rare. And lastly, when you do take it in, do it when the car is solidly acting up. If problem is sporadic and the car plays "nice" in front of the mechanic, they are not going to do anything and then you're sent on your merry way stuck driving around nervously waiting for the next tantrum. From one unlucky '05 Verona owner to another the only other advice I can give is: Good luck! I'm going through the same thing after 13 repair visits and I only owned the car for 11 months.
  • blkbobblkbob Posts: 36
    Why can't Suzuki figure it out? Imartel, I have a theory (albeit, a cynical paranoid one) about Suzuki Corporation and the Verona line. It starts with:

    GM buys bankrupt Daewoo and it's plants. GM wants to make good on it's Daewoo investment so it decides to relaunch one of Daewoo's bankrupt designs--the Verona. GM has a 20% stake in Suzuki, inturn, GM suggests(?) Suzuki slap their emblem on the Verona. Suzuki agrees but never asks why GM doesn't use theirs (hmmm). Many quality issues, poor safety ratings and poor marketing strategies later, Suzuki loses face because of the Verona. Suzuki tells the world that Veronas are not really Suzukis but Daewoos and should not be considered as part of their good standing. GM lowers their ownership of Suzuki down from 20% to 3%, but they call it "restructuring" instead of "leaving Suzuki holding the bag". Suzuki now feels they are left holding the bag. But Suzuki is shrewd and makes lemonade out of lemons [excuse the pun Verona owners]. Suzuki realizes that GM is now powerless over them and they can do anything they want with the Verona. Suzuki promptly displays "Verona replacements" at every Asian and European auto show(hmm)and promises this version will have more luxury, power and cupholders. Suzuki cries "Sike!" and promptly shoves it under the rug. They vow never to make a sedan for 3 years. For good measure, Suzuki makes sure not to mention Verona in any of their Annual Reports. Besides, who would remember a poor selling car with quality problems that wasn't marketed and only had a run of 2.3 years. Problem solved, almost. Apparently there were some witnesses customers that bought some. Suzuki designs a "Just Smile & Nod" strategy for handling these owners' complaints. And why should Suzuki worry, in their eyes they didn't sell enough Veronas for a class action lawsuit (hint), let alone a full recall (hint, hint!). ;)
  • pasukpasuk Posts: 9
    Thanks so much for your advice! I have kept each service invoice to date. I just hate that I feel the invoice doesn't always truly reflect the issues I have reported. I feel my service department is very good at making me look like an idiot! The invoice sometimes states "Customer complains of idoling problems" and never reflects the 8 other issues I have indicated to the service department. I'm hoping this won't hurt my case.

    Next steps are to research the Lemon Laws and contact a service rep.
  • poulsbokidpoulsbokid Posts: 13
    well my dealer did the same thing but the last time I brought it in I told the lady at the desk that this was the 4th time for the same thing at it was a safety issue and I wanted that to reflect in the work order and it is in there so the other sheets might not say that but this last one does.
    Good luck
  • mm9351mm9351 Posts: 72
    :( Anyone experience their passenger interior door handle (pull) with a "peeling" finish? The correct look is for a satin black /soft-to-touch feeling handle. Due to routine use, along with heat / cold / and oils from one's skin, the finish has worn off in an irregular pattern. Is there a Suzuki update campaign covering this? Have not yet spoken to the dealer. Driver doesn't get a handle so it's not an issue; also backseat & rear doors never get used, so handles still look brand new. IMO, it's mostly a cosmetic issue, not a big deal.
  • I have an 05 Verona and overall, I love the car. It's silky smooth and I haven't had any of the mechanical issues that others on here have had. But recently have had suspension issues. The right front strut mount went bad causing a bad knock in the front end. At 45000 miles, I am out of my 36k bumper to bumper but the dealership fixed it for me at no charge. Then last week, the left rear starting sounding like it was coming apart. I took in to have it looked at and most of the bolts on the lower suspension were loose and had to be retorqued. They charged me for that! Oh well. Like I said, overall I'm pleased and I have to be. I couldn't get a decent trade on this if I wanted to so we're stuck with it until it's paid for or wrecked.
  • Well my wife was antsy so we traded the Verona today and bought an 07 Grand Vitara. Yes, we got bent over with negative equity but thankfully, with all the incentives offered on the GV, it covered just about all of that. I have to admit, a weight feels like it has been lifted off of my shoulders. I loved that car and will miss it but feel better about not having to worry about it. I might pick one up in a couple of years to use for a work driver. They should be really cheap by then.
  • esalazaresalazar Posts: 21
    I filed a claim under the lemon law, and finally after all the drama I turned it in on May 16, 2007. I had taken this car in for the same thing "Check Engine" 5x's, only had 37,332 miles on it I got it at 23,900 miles. I really liked my car so much. Just not enough to deal with all the problems it has, aside of the "check engine", but also the suspension was real bad on it, and needless to say the lack of speed.:lemon:I can say what was good about it was the stereo system and the nice interior, and interior light and its locations. So many attempt to have fix, I think its time to pull the plug on it. Now I'm just waiting to have loan paid off so I can get me a Ford.
  • poulsbokidpoulsbokid Posts: 13
    mine seems to be fixed at the moment but it took 4 or 5 fill ups to get problems again so wee shall see. I will file next time myself for sure Glad to here.

    Diana
  • esalazaresalazar Posts: 21
    4 or 5 thats to many times already, but hopefully its fixed, u dont want to let to many or much time go by tho. I filed since Jan.07 and already in May. If we had $ I would of definately traded in the car for another. I think we would of gotten a better deal than going thru the claim. But oh well lesson learned. Well good luck, I hope ur car is fixed.
  • evergreenevergreen Posts: 208
    I bought a new Verona EX when they first came out in late 2003. We have realy enjoyed the car and have had no problems that caused us any angst. However, last October when I took the car in for servicing, the service advisor told me the ey found a little oil film in the spark plug socket area which indicated there may be a problem with the head. They had consulted with Suzuki and were told to install a new head. The work was performed at no cost to me. I understand it cost them about $3500 to replace the head. I took the car in for service in March of this year and they told me I didn't have any oil pressure which meant that some internal parts may have been damaged. Again, the car had been performing beautifully and the oil light had never come on. They decided, without any prompting from me, to replace the whole engine ($7500). When they installed the new engine, they apparently messed up some "o-ring" relating to the air conditioning and the freon leaked out so the air conditioning wasn't working. I returned the car to the dealer in May and noted that I also observed a couple drops of oil on my garage floor so they might want to check that out. They called back and said the engine was "throwing oil" and that they were going to replace the engine again (another $7500). The dealer has provided me with a free loaner while the engines were being replaced and none of this has cost me a penney. I live only 10 minutes from the dealer so it hasn't cost me a lot of time, either. I have been buying new cars for over 40 years and have never had this kind of experience before. I joked with the service advisor that they should just give me a new Cadillac because with a few more years on the warranty this could be rather expensive for Suzuki. Suzuki has almost as much money in the car now as I paid for it.

    Now I have heard that warranty work can be very lucrative for the dealer but this seems a little ridiculous. I find it hard to believe a dealer could get away with this sort of hanky-panky for long. On the other hand, It is hard to belive a car would need two new engines in a couple of months. I still love the car and the service has been nothing short of outstanding. Anyone else have a similar experience or any thoughts?
  • evergreenevergreen Posts: 208
    I bought a new Verona EX when they first came out in late 2003. We have realy enjoyed the car and have had no problems that caused us any angst. However, last October when I took the car in for servicing, the service advisor told me they found a little oil film in the spark plug socket area which indicated there may be a problem with the head. They had consulted with Suzuki and were told to install a new head. The work was performed at no cost to me. I understand it cost them about $3500 to replace the head. I took the car in for service in March of this year and they told me I didn't have any oil pressure which meant that some internal parts may have been damaged. Again, the car had been performing beautifully and the oil light had never come on. They decided, without any prompting from me, to replace the whole engine ($7500). When they installed the new engine, they apparently messed up some "o-ring" relating to the air conditioning and the freon leaked out so the air conditioning wasn't working. I returned the car to the dealer in May and told them that I also observed a couple drops of oil on my garage floor so they might want to check that out. They called back and said the engine was "throwing oil" and that they were going to replace the engine again (another $7500). The dealer has provided me with a free loaner while the engines were being replaced and none of this has cost me a penney. I live only 10 minutes from the dealer so it hasn't cost me a lot of time, either. I have been buying new cars for over 40 years and have never had this kind of experience before. I joked with the service advisor that they should just give me a new Cadillac because, with a few more years on the warranty, this could be rather expensive for Suzuki. Suzuki has almost as much money in the car now as I paid for it.

    Now I have heard that warranty work can be very lucrative for the dealer but this seems a little ridiculous. I find it hard to believe a dealer could get away with this sort of hanky-panky for long. On the other hand, It is hard to belive a car would need two new engines in a couple of months. I still love the car and the service has been nothing short of outstanding. Anyone else have a similar experience or any thoughts?
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