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Suzuki Verona

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  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    10W30 appears to be the wrong grade for Verona and I agree with ccbloom . The owner manual states clearly this fact. Ask for complete flush out and refill with 5W30 ASAP. It may not be advisable to operate with 10W30. My washer pump is'nt the best: it does not spray luxuriously but seems OK. It seems to just spray enough making the wipers do the work. There is no pan area of spray but it squirts an area in front of the blades. I dont know if this is how all pumps work on the Verona. Can other forum members comment?. Thanks.
  • pciro2180pciro2180 Posts: 43
    The dealer did the same thing with my car. There is a TSE from Suzuki do use 10w-30 for some reason. After doing this change, the car started some lifter knocking especially after going for high speeds of 70-80 mph and then slowing. The dealer said it had nothing to do with the grade of the oil, but I went home and changed back to 5w-30, and the knocking stopped. I recommend you change it to the Mobil 1 Extended performance Synthetic oil as I have. I used to get about 18.5 MPG, and it boosted up to usually between 21 and 22 MPG, and also the cars runs cooler and smoother, and it gives a little more power to you. Don't always trust what the dealer or Suzuki tells you to do, they sometimes are wrong, especially the idiots working at some of these dealers. :)
  • veronaownerveronaowner Posts: 88
    I had the same problem with the dealer and oil. They used 10W30
    and finally realized they made a mistake according to Suzuki and they
    changed the oil to the 5W30 at their expense. Needless to say I go
    other places now. Has anyone had wheel alignment problems? All except
    the left rear was out of alignment and only about 12K miles.
    Veronaowner, Ken
  • nace818nace818 Posts: 140
    Thanks everyone, I didn't know that the manual states "under no circumstances use 10W-30". I will certainly have it changed ASAP even if I have to do it myself. I just trusted the Suzuki dealer. But this was a new guy in the service department. Anyway thanks again.
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    Hi,
    My first observations after changing over to 5W30 mobil 1 synth.: The car is much quieter, smoother. No Vibrations felt on idling. Its more fun to ride. Looks great so far. I bought the oil myself and asked the dealer to install the oil filter and replace the oil while he did the 18 month check up and service.
    I will keep you posted.
    Comments ?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Anyone see the semi disturbing crash test ratings for the Verona? The driver only earned 3 stars, the worst rating out of all 05 models tested. Quite a shame in this day and age. It appears the lower rating was due to higher head and chest injury measures. It looks like Suzuki needs to get more involved in the design of their Daewoo models.
  • jimyipjimyip Posts: 3
    Hello, I have just discovered this great forum yesterday and I am seriously considered to purchase the Chevy Epica which is same as Suzuki Verona under GM's new plan in China. The car has been putting on self in Apr 24,05. The Shanghai Auto show's 1 wk, Epica has sold 1967 cars. Till May 23,05 the total sales of Epica is 3870 in China. The website is www.shanghaigm.com.

    I have seen lots of problems and but I don't know if I will make a decision to purchase the Chevy Epica or Volkswagon's Passat in China. Pls give me some idea before I make my final decision next week.

    Thanks,
  • ccbloome61ccbloome61 Posts: 35
    Last year I totalled my Daewoo Leganza. It also had a poor rating from nhtsa. It is a similar car to the Verona/Magnus/Epica. I swerved to miss an animal in the road and lost control. The car flipped over and I landed upside down in a ditch. I removed the seat belt and when someone came and opened my passenger side door I walked out without a scratch. The roof did not crush in and the seat belts held me tight to the seat. Every window was broken including the sunroof. The passenger area seemed to hold up good to me. Here I am alive. That is why I had no reservations in buying the Verona.
  • bartley7bartley7 Posts: 4
    My window washer was barely squirting fluid. It was discovered that one elbow connector tube was cracked. Dealer replaced and it's fine.
  • nace818nace818 Posts: 140
    As far as my opinion on the Verona/Epica, you will be very happy. I've never driven a smoother running car in my life and I've also owned Lincolns and Cadillacs. The thing is silky smooth. I just rolled on 20,000 miles and it has never been in the shop for more than an oil change.By the way when I took it back because I thought they had put in 10W-30, they told me that thw windshield sticker was wrong and they only use 5W-30. I guess I will take their word for it. But anyway Tom/picro I love mine and hope you will be just as happy with yours if this is what you decide. The only thing I wish is that Suzuki had a few more color choices. I was on some other web site the other day where you could see what your cat would look like in other colors. I definitely would have a bright red one. Well good luck.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    While its great your Leganza kept you safe in your accident, it's performance there can't be compared to that of the NHTSA's test. Roll-overs don't involve the airbags. The NHTSA rates how well a car's structure, airbags, and seatbelts protect the driver from high forces during a full frontal collision. Apparently, you have a higher chance of sustaining injuries in the Verona compared to other cars in its class. The side-impact test also didn't go well, despite the newly standard side-impact airbags. If Suzuki wants to be more competitive, then they need to make sure their products are on equal ground in safety.
  • Yeah, I'm also disturbed about the crash-test ratings for the Verona all the way across the board.
    But I've already purchased one; I'll just have to make sure I don't get in a crash, eh? With the excellent steering and brakes, I'm pretty sure I can do my part...not much I can do about the other drivers on the road.

    This is one thing Suzuki will have to fix to get me to buy a Suzuki on my next purchase.
  • motorcitymotorcity Posts: 8
    24,000 mi , still in love !
  • jimyipjimyip Posts: 3
    I have just bought the Cherolet Epica in Shanghai. Before I bought the car, I have been serving through lots of web site in both Chinese and English to understand the background of this car:-
    Epica originated from Daewoo's Magnus in 2002. Since then, GM bought the Korea automaker and make some of her models into the Chevrolet's brand name.
    The US version is under Suzuki's Verona, the Canandian and European version is under Chevrolet's Epica.

    They are similar but not the same. In US or Europe, it has 2.5L 6 cylinder both Stick and automatic shift. In China, it has only 4 cylinders 2.0L sedan automatic.

    Before I decide to buy this car, I have chosen Volkswagen Passat, Honda Accord, Toyota Corolla. However, I am very disappointed for the above 4 famous names in China:-
    Volkswagon's Passat has both 2.0, 1.8T and 2.8V6 version. The price for 2.0 is 22771US. 1.8T is 25180UD, 2.8V6 is 38554US. 2.0 is within my budget but the details is terrible, SOHC 2 valves engine + manual shift. 10 years old engine is still selling in China from Volks. Might be some of you have not even heard about sohc , single overhead craft engine with only 2 valves instead of the current common 16 valves.

    Honda Accord is good but the price is 24096usd which is also out of budget.

    Toyota Corolla is the famous car that meets my budget but comes to China with different configuration. The fundermental one is without leather seat and not evan the front reading lamb. The price is 16843usd and the tire has been changed to the R195 one which is awful small because it suppose to be R205. I have seen it remove lots of inside option such as cruise, automatic aircon, sunroof. I like this car but I don't like Toyota have the Chinese version with the price tag as 16843 to 21108.

    I heard lots of bad news from Edmund's web site about the Suzuki's Verona and the comment such as "not recommed to buy". However, the cost/performance in China today, Epica is the best of the choice and I decided to take the "risk" to try this car. This is the reason why I choose Epica finally for the price I paid 19927us.

    I drove for couple hours since I got the car today. For last 2 hours city drive, the car is quiet, stable, and of course it is not very powerful due to 2.0L 4 Cylinder's hp. However, I am very satisfy for my drive.

    I will continue to share my experience if this forum will be kept active about my experience with Chevy's Epica in future.
  • nace818nace818 Posts: 140
    21,000 miles-DITTO! It continues to get admiring glances. As I was coming out of a convenience store yesterday, I noticed a guy walking around my car and smiling. He said I just had to wait for you to come out so I could tell you how fine I think this car is. Yes it does make you feel good.
  • Overall I am pleased with my recent purchase of a new '04 Verona. It is fully loaded (well, as fully loaded as a Verona can get). It was the last '04 on the lot and had 359 dealer miles on it so they were eager to sell at a good price.

    I am however, having issues with my MPG. I've put 676 miles on it and my MPG average in the city is 15.5 and my average on the highway is 19.5. This is far from the 20 city / 27 highway I was expecting. I try to keep electrical use (except radio) to a minimum...but still poor MPG. With gas at $2.30 a gallon this car will cost me $500 more a year than I expected!!!!

    I've read the posts about not using 10W-30 and using 5W-30 oil. But how do I know what kind of oil I currently have in the car?

    Any other suggestions on how to get better mileage?
  • kimweigelkimweigel Posts: 43
    I have an 04 Verona EX just like yours. While it is not a super mileage machine, it should get at least 20-22 mpg. Mine did when new, and has steadily improved with age. I'm now getting 24-25 with 8500 on the odometer. You should check the basics first, and then move on.
    1. Tire pressure OK?
    2. Emergency brake FULLY off?
    3. Driving in D (not 3)!

    Electrical use shouldn't affect the mileage. I drive with the air on almost all the time. If it is not one of these basic problems, you should start looking for a sticky brake caliber or a bad O2 sensor. Are you at high altitude?
    Once again, the mileage should slowly and steadily improve as your new "tight" engine starts breaking in. Also, my service advisor has told me that many customers reported better mileage after their first oil change. Good luck!
  • charlie9charlie9 Posts: 5
    Easterbaby, "The cd/cassett/amfm is not a great radio."I have two Leganza with this type radio and the both was fix two times.'The Cassette all ways work fine." But the cd would not."I now have two after market cd/cassette and after two years they are still great.Good Luck.Charles,
  • kctomkctom Posts: 46
    I change to synthetic, Quaker State. I really believe that the car runs better. It seems a little more responsive. I cannot document this in any way. I also notice that it runs a little cooler. Synthetic lowers friction and carries away heat better. That's significant when you have almost as much oil as coolant.

    I have also discovered a problem with some gasoline. I was burning Shell regular in it. I began to notice that the engine was hesitating at very low throttle position. I mean like right off the stop. I didn't notice this until after I changed to synthetic. Possible the lowered friction meant that I was now using this position instead of just throttling right past it. I switched to Phillip/Conoco, and it's gone. No mileage figure yet.

    As far as oil viscosity, Suzuki has issued a maintenance advisory emphasizing the use of 5W-30 with 10W-40 as the only acceptable alternative. That makes no sense to me, but hey I always use 5W-30 anyway. I have used 5W-30 in other engines for many years, when recommended by the manufacturer. It works fine, and saves gas.

    Tom
  • kctomkctom Posts: 46
    I really like my Verona. I only have 4000 miles on it, but no problems so far. Most of the problems with this vehicle center around the computer software that controls the engine. Suzuki has issued two software updates that seem to have fixed this problem. Also, this problem is unique to the inline 2.5 l six cy. I don't believe that Daewoo installs this engine outside of the North American market.

    Tom
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