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Suzuki Verona

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  • No, there has only been one TSB update for the TCM (transmission contol module). That was issued to address customer concerns about the hesitant shift between 2nd and 3rd. It was issued in June 2005. Overall except for the somewhat odd shift behavior, the transmission simply has not been a problem from a reliabilty standpoint. This does not mean that it is not the best transmission match for the engine power characteristics, which it is not.

    The ECM has had three updates. The first two one month apart at the end of 2004. The last one in June of 2005 was to address the EPA concerns regarding the two other software updates that were performed for the stalling issue.

    So far there has not been a TSB issued for valve tappet noise as someone erroneously stated before. It is important that people posting stick with the facts and check the information before posting. Just because they read it on a message board makes it true, right? :surprise:
  • Sounds like some serious problems out there, not sure whats going on. My Suzuki dealer services 5 veronas including mine, 2 have had engine replacements. I saw the engines lowered from the chassis ( look nice ) I noticed the tranny looks nothing like a GM unit, more like a ZF ( fully finned casing ) I also noticed the word " Siemens " stamped on my ECM module. If you look at your invoice sticker you will notice the engine and tranny are made in Korea. Not sure where all this GM stuff came from. Again, I enjoy my verona, revs nicely to redline and hugs the curves like glue.
  • Hi tonyc4, can you shed a bit more light on the window track realignment? Which window was affected? I'm having an issue with the driver's window and would like to know if it's the same problem...thanks.
  • In response to the window track problem, when I lowered or raised the drivers door window I could hear a loud clunk, like the glass was coming in contact with something. I took it to the dealer who found something loose or misaglined, and made the repair in about 30 minutes, works fine now.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    5 veronas including mine, 2 have had engine replacements.

    Do you know why they had to replace the engine? I thought it was the "heads" that were bad.
  • The two engine repacements were because of stalling. They told me the engines had no compression.
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    I know this doesn't involve your particular situation, and your getting this stuff second hand, but this makes no sense. How can the motors not have compression? The stalling issue was linked to the ECM. The rings, valves, and pistons had to be defective from the factory in order for this explanation to be plausible.
  • tonyc4tonyc4 Posts: 14
    Not sure about the compression loss. Service deptartments dont give out too many details unless you grill them.
  • I purchased my 04 EX in the fall of of 03 and at the time monitored and participated in this forum for six months. I dropped away when the new car euphoria wore off, but 30,000 miles and two years later I have no regrets about the purchase. The car has served me well and I still find it a pleasure to drive.
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    Hi,
    I am back after along gap. The Verona after its initial cup of woes regarding ECM, sensors etc. ran without incident from Dec 2005 till Oct 2005. Two weeks back, the check engine light went on. I took it to the dealer and they ran the OBD-2 and found out that the 6'th cylinder had low compression. So they had a dud of an engine. The dealer took it under warantee and asked for a new engine!!. They also had to replace 2 clock springs (One broke while installation). Now I have the car back after 15 days with a new engine. This is the final straw. I seriously doubt the QC of this car. I have done 13000 miles in two years and had meticulous maintenance and yet this car has embarrassed me on numerous occasions. Last year while attending a relative's marriage, the Car refused to move on the wedding day!!. Now a new engine and many parts later, I am not sure if it will run another 2 months without incident.
    I am dissapointed. For those who havent had this kind of nightmare, pray!!.
    No more Suzuki's for me. :lemon:
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "Two weeks back, the check engine light went on. I took it to the dealer and they ran the OBD-2 and found out that the 6'th cylinder had low compression. So they had a dud of an engine. The dealer took it under warantee and asked for a new engine!!."

    You are not the first to have engine problems. Many have reported "head failures" also. It's a darn shame.... it's a beautiful car. They need to trash this model and start over. Something tells me thats what will happen.....
  • For those that want to know....
    NAPA parts stores have 2004 Verona filters for the air Filter #2838 at $14.29 and a Cabin Air Filter #4906 at $23.39 and also the oil filter. I did not get the price but the part # is 7046.
    There is also a STP oil filter #S2903
    Veronaowner...
  • spelspel Posts: 1
    We bought the Vernoa 1 year ago. I think it has been in the shop more than my garage! The car was only 1 1/2 months old when we had our first oil leak. Now three leaks later I have a new engine and I am just waiting for the other shoe to drop. I will never buy another suzuki! :lemon:

    Has anyone else had any problems with the crusie control just shutting off.
  • mm9351mm9351 Posts: 72
    Question: Any symptoms / lack of performance when the check engine light appeared? No abnormal operation? Hard to believe your well-maintained engine would just fail after 13,000 miles. Did Suzuki service offer an explanation; e.g. oil other than 5W-30, hard driving, etc? As for me, I'm concerned, the miles are racking up on my EX (60 miles per day, odo now over 8,000) and I certainly hope one day this doesn't happen without warning. Good luck to you, let us know how you fare with your new engine...
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    With the new Engine the Verona ran OK. The previous engine check light did not appear to result in less power. When analyzed under the computer the dealer reported that one of the six cylinders showed lack of compression or power. The Car was essentially running on 5 cylinders at that time. They said that the O rings might be deformed. I dont know. They said that the Company would be analyzing the cause. There was no hard driving. The dealer said that not too many Veronas had that problem at his dealership. But I do read on this forum that some others have had such problems. I have decided to trade and buy a new car anyway.
    With this type of QC I dont want to take further chances with my Car. Some of you might have good QC cars and may be running well. I have got to appreciate the dealer who helped me to his best extent.
    I am done with Verona for now.
    Good Luck to you guys !!!
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "I have decided to trade and buy a new car anyway."

    So I am assuming the problem was never corrected on your car. I think the above story illustrates a certain point. If anyone is considering a purchased of a Verona-don't buy used. It might be like a box of chocolates---you don't know what you will be getting!
  • rasuprasup Posts: 136
    No, Suzuki corrected the defect and the problem was resolved. But with my car going in 6-7 times in for repairs does not inspire enough confidence to retain the car.This is after 2 years/13000 miles. I was not sure of the QC of my car. After 3 yrs and 36000 miles what would you feel if you had to have major repairs?
    The Verona does have a lot packed in...fog lights, steering wheel audio, very roomy. But high QC is necessary to have a great car.
  • tonyc4tonyc4 Posts: 14
    Check Engine light popped up last month, took it in and they pulled up 3 codes, misfire on cylinders 1-2-3 plus a couple of random misfires. They had no cure so they turned it over to Suzuki Tech. Last week I was unable to fill my gas tank, fuel just wouldnt go in the tank. Took it in and they found the charcoal canister full of raw fuel, replaced it and now I'm fine, car runs perfect,no misfires and the motor no longer feels like it wants to stall all the time. Plus more power and idle speed does not fluctuate. I always top up the tank during fill-ups...dont do it...it overwhelms the EVAC system and dumps raw fuel where it doesnt belong ( mainly the charcoal canister, which stores fumes only ) New Verona comes out next spring if anyone interested.
  • Where did you read about the new Verona next spring? :confuse:
  • chuck1chuck1 Posts: 1,405
    "New Verona comes out next spring if anyone interested."

    With just over 12,000 units sold last year, and all these problems people have, who in their RIGHT MIND would buy one of these things?
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