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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • jon_in_ctjon_in_ct Posts: 137
    I've noticed a weird pattern among safety complaints to NHTSA's Office of Defect Investigations for the 2005 Outback. There are only 7 complaints, but 5 of them are for headlights and the other two are for cruise control issues. You can view all of the 2005 Outback complaints here. What's up with that? What are your experiences? Problems or not?

    BTW, the 2005 Legacy complaints are all over the place. Click here to see the 2005 Legacy complaints..
  • doug1doug1 Posts: 37
    Thanks to all for their advice on this. I certainly appreciate it.

    Doug
  • doug1doug1 Posts: 37
    I believe others have mentioned bulb issues before. My first one burned out at 8000 miles. A friend had two burn out on the same day, with around 5000mi on his car. A dealer mentioned to me recently that they've been having a ton of problems with the bulbs. But he assured me that they'd checked out electrical issues, and it had been traced to the bulbs themselves. Hopefully Subaru will figure out the problem with its supplier. Still seems rather fishy to have two bulbs burn out in one day though.

    Doug
  • doug1doug1 Posts: 37
    Wanted to thank Ken and Craig for directing me to Klasse AIO last fall. Definitely the best experience I've had with a car wax. It's much less messy than caranuba, as it doesn't negatively impact black plastic trim. I'll be sticking with it.

    Doug
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    I have a serious problem with 2005 OB XT coming from 2001 OB with interior storage space & lighting. This is crazy.

    1. Glove compartment is useless
    2. Center console too low.
    3. Why does center console extend out to back seat & reduce back seat leg room ?
    4. Front door storage spaces are horrible, can't fit 10 CD bag ?
    5. no seat pocket behind driver seat ?
    6. no front lights on when door opened ?
    7. horrible interior lighting, can;t see anything in night clearly ? even glove compartment lighting is bad !

    what are they thinking ?
  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 797
    you forgot to mention the cute little ash tray which holds about 3 quarters! Rob M.
  • jchujchu Posts: 18
    Thank you. I just came back from a dealer. They told me everyting is normal after examination, so just shut off the "check engine" light. Thery doubt it could be some kind of miss fire, but I was using premium gas all the time, so there was no explanation for the problem.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Personally? I'd find it reassuring that the biggest complaint was regarding a $5 halogen bulb.

    -juice
  • jon_in_ctjon_in_ct Posts: 137
    The complaints about the 2005 Outback headlights seem to be about the beam pattern, which can't be fixed by replacing a bulb.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Curious- how is the glove compartment useless? Are you trying to put a laptop in there? It swallows a bunch of stuff, IMO, including my iPod, a few maps, napkins from Dunkin Donuts (hooray for the obesity epidemic!), and the chunky owners manual.

    The center console is too low for what? I personally dont think the interior lighting is that bad... map lights and overhead between front and rear is pretty standard....

    Otherwise, I agree there could be more storage space, I could do without the lighter as theres no chance Id let anyone smoke in the car.

    perplexed,
    Joe
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,465
    I personally dont think the interior lighting is that bad... map lights and overhead between front and rear is pretty standard....

    I think it's mostly wagons with the HUGE moonroof that have the interior lighting issue. The "center" overhead light is WAY back. Craig ended up hooking up the maps lights to work with the door switch.

    DaveM
  • saintvipersaintviper Posts: 177
    I agree that the lighting inside is poor. The map lights should really double as dome lights especially in the wagon. The glove box is on the small side and that pocket to hold the owner's manual is a waste of space.

    The door pockets and console seem fine to me, but I came from a WRX, not an Outback.
  • krzysskrzyss Posts: 842
    the lighting is not good. My Passat has big light in front and two small ones above rear doors. It works much better. Subaru should have connected map lights themselves to solve the problem.

    Krzys
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    wow, glove compartment taking ipod - is it ipod or mini ? j/k. i am comparing this to the previous generation OB's glove compartments. the same things fitted in my previous one comfortably. why would they make it less usable in revised model ?

    center console is too low to rest your hands on, if it is NOT too low why do think they are selling a center console step-up ? and it is smaller than previous OB.

    if you have OB with moonroof, the lighting is only for back seats. map lights don;t come on when door is opened. i noticed in tribeca it does.

    the lighting itself is very poor compared to preious ones. the lighting in glove comaprtment is useless compared to previous one.

    the door pockets are less usable than previous ones. can't fit the same CD case that did in my 2001 OB which i traded-in

    why would they make these worse in a model that is 4 years later ? that's all.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Oh, I thought it was about burned out light bulbs...my bad.

    -juice
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,508
    There's a bulb out alright.... but it's not in the car!!! :P
  • rwoodsrwoods Posts: 129
    I parked my 2005 OBXT wagon in my father's garage two months ago in order to give my Lexus GS430 some work. This Sunday I decided to take the OB for a spin. Turned the key...nothing. Called Roadside Assistance. They came and gave me a jump. Took OB for a nice thirty mile run to Jones Beach and back into the garage. My dad went into the garage that night to start the car...again...nothing.

    Next day he jumped it himself and drove it to Subaru. They promptly informed him that I had left the parking lights on for two months and continued to leave them on. They charged the battery. I'm fine now.

    Theory: When the carwash was dusting the interior back in April just before I stored the OB they must have inadvertently pushed the parking light button to the on position. I've owned quite a few cars but never have I seen I parking light button on top of the steering column.

    Bob Woods
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    In Europe you use those parking lights frequently because the roads are narrow.

    Check out Mercedes lights - to the right they turn on, to the left they turn on parking lamps on alternate sides of the car.

    I used to valet park and you could spot the rookie because he'd twist the knob all the way left and leave the parking lights on in the Benzes.

    -juice
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    None of the 2005 OBs get this ? Air filtration to filter pollen etc. My old OB used to have this. Now, it is NOT available even as an accessory.
  • dodgedodge Posts: 25
    Does anyone know if subaru will put in a navigational system as an option in the outback or forester, like in the tribeca,and if they are not going to put a navi, what might else could they do for 2006 model year?
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    yes, in 2006 OBs. if you badly need to buy a car without navi, try garmin c330. i am very happy with it.
  • twrxtwrx Posts: 647
    Complaints on my 2005 Legacy LTD 2.5i wagon:
    1. Cruise control surges on downhill.
    2. Funny location of door pulls.
    3. Glove box is small and won't latch if anything is even remotely out of place.
    4. Hard to slide in under the steering wheel-I have scuffs and gouges on the leather wheel because of this.
    5. Stereo, no connection for iPod, no way to change out stereo.
    6. Window washers, they are located in the wiper area and clog with snow too easily.
    7. Very little room under seats (can't hide things well there)
    8. Design of rear valance panel that matches up with the toneau cover. I have already broken an attachment part and need to get a new one.
    Raves:
    1. Mileage--32 on the highway is pretty good,eh?
    2. Stereo-sounds better than any previous Subaru stereo.
    3. Handling and acceleration-and yes I have only the 168 hp 2.5i with the standard 16" wheels and Bridgestones.
    4. Styling-if you are going to drive a wagon this one looks great.
    5. First class interior-leather is holding up well and was stiched quite well and it is part of the most upscale looking Subaru interior I have had.
    6. Lighting, yes I like it. I like having the domelight out over the back seat for the back passengers. The map lights are fine for the front passengers.
    7. ACC-yes I am one who actually likes it. I do generally use it in the semi-auto mode where I control the fan speed. I have found that dual zone is keeping both Susan and I comfortable.
    8. Snow traction-22" of snow in 48 hours in December and I never got stuck once.
    9. Clever sunroof. If you hit the switch once it just flips the front section up part way.That is great for venting the car when you are parked. When you hit it a second time it retracts but leaves about 6" of the roof unretracted. At this point the front section will deflect the air is such a way that it does not dump into the car and cause a drumming sound that would require the windows being opened. Great at speed. If you push the button a third time be ready to lower the windows.
    10. Finally, a power point in the center console for my cell phone. I just wish they would put one in the back like all of the Outbacks.
    11. Build quality, this car is my first from my home state and it an exellently built car.
    TWRX
  • fj60fj60 Posts: 28
    I ordered my GT Lmt Wagon with air filtration but it was delivered (Oct. '04) without it because of design problems (per dealer). A redesigned was finally available and installed in my wagon last month.

    FJ60
  • rkrurkru Posts: 16
    In Canada, as an accessory, its part number G3210AG000 at $C96.29 plus 1 hr installation. Its supposedly std on the VDC.
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    is it for 2005 model ?
  • hilihili Posts: 7
    I've just driven the Tribeca and liked it but I'd like to compare it to the 06 Outback. Does anyone know what the new one will be like or when it will be at dealers? Will VDC be standard as on the Tribeca?
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    The air filtration kit was redesigned recently. The original mode required the entire glove compartment to be dismantled -- which only could be accessed by dismanting the center stack. Poor design.

    The new kit replaces a part in the glove comparment so replacement filters can be accessed without the whole disassembly process. Unfortunatey, it's a bit pricey and also requires installation time.

    I've just gotten by without the filter for now.

    Ken
  • fj60fj60 Posts: 28
    It's for a 2005 MY. I was told early production models require the refit Ken describes. The install is straight forward, but my center console/box refused to come out as easily as the instructions described (typical) so I had the dealer install it. They were going to charge $75, but waived it once I showed them the paperwork listing air filtration installed upon delivery.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yes, it has VDC standard.

    Compred to an Outback VDC, which has similar equipment, the Tribeca Limited 5-pass actually lists for $1150 less.

    Discounting makes the OB VDC cheaper, though.

    -juice
  • fj60fj60 Posts: 28
    I posted a message about a rattle/jiggle from my sunroof (wgn) a couple of months ago. I had a nearby dealer investigate and they found a metal excess trim piece lying near the sunroof track. I was a little wary that they had to remove the headliner and the trim around the doors and sunroof, but everything looks good and NO rattle!

    FJ60
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