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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • otis123otis123 Posts: 426
    Thanks! I'll pay them a visit this weekend - or on the way home.

    The Outback sedan gets no respect... I've liked it since I first saw it in the old (pre-2000) body design...must have been 1998...
  • Here's the link to the crash test on the new outback

    http://www.aaa.asn.au/NCAP/PDF%20Docs/outbackc04.pdf

    And this is the link to all the tests

    http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/mpaine/ncaplist.html
  • legacy191legacy191 Posts: 29
    Does anyone have firm prices on the 05' turbo wagon. I didn't get to the auto show and I can't find any firm prices on the car.. again help..

    Tony T.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    is not out yet, but expected somewhat soon- the car is due for release in mid/late May, from what I understand. Just keep checking www.need-desire.com.

    ~alpha
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    ...and here. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if pricing was found here before there...
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Posts: 1,031
    Try the official website of the 2005 Subaru Legacy/Outback: http://www.need-desire.com

    :-)
  • adaveyadavey Posts: 30
    don't know where else to put this. is there any idea for a subaru convertible EVER again?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'd love to see a B9SC in production, but it's unlikely. Subaru needs a bigger car more than it needs a drop-top.

    -juice
  • pon1pon1 Posts: 196
    Anyone know if all the 2005 H6 outbacks are to have wood trim on the wheel and dash? Maybe the base cloth 3.0R will have a plain black or black/beige interior, without the wood trim? From a Canadian brochure shot the 2005 Outback 2.5i Limited w/leather looks like it has wood trim also. I'm not a fan of wood trim, and I like the (pre-production) 2005 Legacy interior a lot better.

    Maybe none of this is for sure as we have not seen US production cars yet.....

    JP
  • eurosnobeurosnob Posts: 7
    Does anyone know if there is a difference in the size of the sunroofs between the Legacy Wagon and the Outback? I saw the Outback at the Chicago show with the "jumbo" roof but there was no Legacy there. I want the large roof, but don't particularly need the outback. Thanks in advance.
  • bigelmbigelm Posts: 995
    Sunroof is the same....
  • jowettjowett Posts: 12
    Was at the B.C.auto show yesterday and they had a couple of 2005 Outbacks there.Started chatting to the rep and found out some new info that I am sure will be of interest to readers of this thread.
    1/ There will be no naturally aspirated 4 cyl Outback models in the 2005 lineup...only turbo 4 and 6 cyl.
    2/VDC will be offered through the whole Outback lineup.( no more paying a CAD13000 premium for that priviledge)
    3/The price of the 2005 entry level outback will now be CAD 27000-28000.( They presently start at around CAD32000,so decreasing by about CAD5000).

    Now this fellow was not theorizing about these things he was stating them as absolute facts.He was also the only rep circulating out on the floor at the time I was at the Subaru display.
    .....SCARY..........My wife could have done better with a brochure in one hand!(not being misogynistic here, its just that she is not a car person).
    Congratulations Subaru ,you get my goat of the year award for incompetence at this years show.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's kind of hard to believe. No 2.5l Outback? Maybe only for Canada. They've already shown a Legacy 2.5i and 2.5i Limited, and list them on need-desire.com.

    That price drop is also hard to believe given all the added content. I'd be thrilled if pricing was kept flat.

    Lastly, VDC is only on the VDC from what we heard.

    I think that rep was just plain drunk. I doubt all three statements.

    -juice
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,710
    However they sometimes do things differently at SOC.

    Bob
  • jowettjowett Posts: 12
    Yes...of course its unbelievable.My post was factual in as much as this is what the guy told me but sarcastic in my thinking any of it was true.
    It just shows that although a lot of car companies pour a ton of money into these shows they then manage to mess it up so badly by the personnel they have staffing the booths.I have noticed similar instances in the past specifically with Toyota and Mitsubishi, although I will give some kudos to VW this year as they seemed to have a handle on facts/figures and info on forthcoming products etc.

    Still, I suppose that hope springs eternal and we can but dream that all 3 points come true.( not going to happen).
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    It isn't true. The second paragraph from the Canadian press release announcing the 2005 Outback, which appears on the company's website, http://www.subaru.ca, and which is a press release and therefore in the public domain, reads as follows:

    The complete 2005 Outback lineup will consist of the naturally aspirated Outback 2.5i and 2.5i Limited, turbo-charged Outback 2.5XT, and the Outback 3.0R, powered by the second generation of Subaru's 3.0-litre 6-cylinder engine. Outback 2.5i is equipped with the naturally aspirated 2.5-litre engine and will be offered with a choice of 5-speed manual transmission or Subaru's new 4-speed automatic with Sportshift®; the Sportshift® automatic is standard equipment on the 2.5i Limited . The 2.5XT turbo can be fitted with a 5-speed manual or a new Sportshift® 5-speed automatic. The Outback 3.0R is also equipped with the new 5-speed automatic. The choice of powertrains means that there's an Outback to fit the needs of virtually any active lifestyle.

    ***Given that that much is untrue, I wouldn't believe another word the man said...
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,930
    That differently BOB, I wish,especially the price drop. I am afraid the rep was smoking something:-)The base Legacy L runs about $28KCDN

      Cheers Pat.
  • pon1pon1 Posts: 196
    The rep could have done better with the brochure in his hand - all of the above info contradicts the current 2005 Canadian brochure (and website) - did they not hand these out at the show, as was the case in Calgary earlier in the month????

    CAD27,000 for a T4 or H6 is wishful thinking indeed, I had that dream myself last night. And not having an N/A 4 loses Subaru their #1 seller and only model that can run on regular fuel.

    Those prices are wrong.

    For the record our Outbacks will come as a 2.5i, a 2.5i Limited, a 2.5T Limited, a 3.0R base and a 3.0R VDC Limited. The base Outback 2.5i will be close (within CAD1000) of the 2004 model. The Outback 2.5i Limited will be close to the current 2004 Outback 4 Limited, (which is a bit overpriced IMO). The price of the rest less easy to estimate, but I expect the 3.0R to be in the 36-38K range and the 2.5T to be in the 38-40K range.

    I'm curious - which models did they show? H6 and turbo??

    JP
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I kinda got that feeling (that you were being sarcastic), but wasn't sure.

    You can't tell people's tones when they're written vs. spoken! ;-)

    -juice
  • jowettjowett Posts: 12
    Yes, I believe there was one 6cyl and 1 turbo.One was a leaf green, the other a light metallic green. Both very nice colours.

    Jowett
  • rp64rp64 Posts: 13
    The SIA website's milestones section says the new Legacy/Outback went into production February 27. True?
  • tocatoca Posts: 147
    My dealer told me over the weekend that he was going to get '05's in May. I would think they would need to be in production now to get them out in that time frame.
  • trueawdtrueawd Posts: 64
    Yes they are in full production getting ready for the big launch in the 3 week of May. I can't wait!!

    Legacy GT Turbo here I come.....The car will be the hottest thing out there!
  • otis123otis123 Posts: 426
    Dealer didn't have the 2005 order guides with the Outback H6 sedan image...maybe (but doubt it) it will be at the NY auto show next weekend...
  • subewannabesubewannabe Posts: 403
    Mazda6 wagons hit US dealers last week and the folks who dont absolutely need AWD are looking real hard when you can buy a fully-loaded Mazda 6 wagon with all the bells and whistles, including the 200W Bose audio, for just under $27K msrp, and everyone is assuming a Legacy GT LTD will cost $30K and Outbacks considerably more....and no MacIntosh for 05!
       SoA is foolish to play games with the pricing info while they try to unload the inventory on the lots...Even when the new ones are here, I'm going to look at the remaining 04 LLBean's and VDC's and decide how to spend my $$....and I'm going to decide how many days each year I really need AWD.

    Mark
  • ozman62ozman62 Posts: 229
    You'll want it everyday. ;-)
    Owen
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    What if it's surprisingly low? If they announce them the 2004s will not sell.

    They may still be doing final packaging, too.

    -juice
  • trueawdtrueawd Posts: 64
    I think pricing is supposed to be out end of next week at the latest.

    The cars still don't come out for a Month and a 1/2. That seems like plenty of time to me.
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    2005 production was also confirmed in a local Lafayette paper. Also, there have been more sightings of 05s in SoCal and the Detroit area (see nabisco forums).

    The pricing wait is frustrating, but the 05s won't be in dealers lots in volume until the summer. I'm sure it's only the dealers with high rankings that will get 05s in May.

    Ken
  • ntk1ntk1 Posts: 57
    If I remember correctly, when the WRX debuted, the prices were released about 1 month prior to cars getting to the showroom and the price levels were about $2k lower than the general speculation
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