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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yes, they revised the material used, and that happened well before 2005.

    A peek at CR ratings show problem areas under the "Engine" category up until 2002, 2003 for one model.

    All 2004 and later ratings for "Engine" earn the best possible Red Dot, i.e. much better than average reliability.

    For a 2005 you should be fine.
  • luck11luck11 Posts: 425
    Thx, Mike. The foreman is a good guy....has been around Soobs for a long time (used to rally imprezas) so he knows his stuff. But it's always nice to have a 2nd opinion.

    Cheers.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Yeah, I did not need to mess with any of the alignment bolts when I replaced the axles on my '96. I did have to move the wheel assembly around quite a bit, but the alignment remained perfect after the replacement. Or, maybe I should say that it was not noticeably different from pre-replacement, aside from the absence of the horrid grinding noises. :blush:
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yeah as long as you don't undo those lower bolts you are good. On the impreza you actually need to undo them most of the time to get the clearance to pull out the CV/Axle.

    -mike
  • Yesterday it snowed. There was a slight hissing sound under the hood and a burning rubber/plastic smell. What could it be?
    My 05 OB is over 3 years old.
  • Looking at my car from the window... I see the exhaust system hanging a little low.
    Uggghhh... guess I have to bring it in.
  • I have a burning rubber smell on my 2004 outback. When I come off the interstate and stop at a light I have toe smell. I also smell it when I park the car after running on the road and restart it. It's a strong rubber burning type smell. Anyone have an idea as to what it can be?
  • I have a 2004 outback with the 2.5 engine and I had to have the head gaskey replaced. It was leaking oil and dripping on the exhaust. I got a burning oil smell that tokk me going to two shops before the problem was found.
  • Wow! I'm sorry to hear about your head gasket leak. I've got an 06 outback and that sure got my attention. Is Subaru going to cover it? How many miles do you have?
  • I had a little over 60K miles. I have an extended warranty and I got it fix that way. Hopefully mine was a random occurence and not a trend.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    It was leaking oil? I am betting that to be an isolated occurrence. The unprecedented head gasket problems of years past involved exterior coolant leaks or internal leaks; I never heard about external oil leaks with the head gaskets.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    MT or AT?

    For the MT it's 3.9 in the Trans/Front Diffy and 0.9 in the rear.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • feilofeilo Posts: 128
    I'm thinking of an Amsoil "mod" on my 08 OB @15K coming up. How many quarts do I need for the trans and rear diff?
  • I took car to dealer w/ sqeaky brake issue (9,000miles), which it had been doing it every day for 2wks when applying the brakes. When I picked up the car they said the infamous " couldn't duplicate", but the tech cleaned them as a precaution anyway. The car had 20mpg on the the computer gage, when I got it back it was 17mpg. What did they do to my car!!!!!??? Oh yeah, the brakes didn't squeak when I got it back. Miraculous. They didn't test drive the car cause the mileage was the same.
  • Hi all,
    I'm on the fence about selling my subaru outback and getting a car w/ front wheel drive that gets better gas mileage and just put snow tires in winter. I already put snows on the subie. We do get a good amount of snow in winter here. I had an impreza lived in vermont never put snows on it and it did superbly uphills. The outback is not that much heavier by about 200 lbs and 9 inches longer. Would FWD w/ snows and traction control be good too? Does an impreza handle differently? Thank you
  • feilofeilo Posts: 128
    Its a 5MT - thanks!
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    If the car was idling for a bit, fuel economy would drop while the odometer mileage stayed the same.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I went from a Forester to a minivan, because we simply need a lot more space.

    Mine's a Sienna, with TRAC, and the light snow we've had a few times since I've had it have given it trouble climing my driveway. I'm not looking forward to more than 2". I'll probably have to plow the driveway first, or maybe back up the driveway so the weight shifts to the drive wheels.

    We still have a Legacy and it basically laughed off the 2" or so that gave the Sienna a hard time.

    Snow tires help a lot, no doubt. I had some on the Forester for a while.

    Still, when going up a steep hill, weight shifts to the back, so a FWD without any weight on the front wheels still might struggle.

    For me, personally, I'd drive our Legacy with all-season tires over our Sienna with snow tires. I might get more wheelspin but I find it easy to control.

    The Sienna's TRAC actually hinders the ascent - it brakes you and you lose momentum climbing.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Did you check the oil level to ensure it is full? Aside from that, it very well could be a valve issue. I have never had a problem with Subaru honoring warranty work, but I have also not brought it in for issues that could be of debatable origin. In all cases, being nice, but persistent, is good.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Yep, snow tires will make a huge amount of difference whether the car is FWD, RWD, or AWD. But, the car will never be as capable as a Subaru. Depending on your needs (and hills, especially), a FWD could do just fine as long as you remember what you are driving. ;)

    Aside from the far more rewarding driving characteristics of the car, I like Subaru because, as a one-car family, I know I can depend on it to get me anywhere at any time.
  • I have had the squeeky, grinding brake noise off and on for several months now. I was finally told by one of the technicians that it is a huge problem (they had 5 complaints in one day). He said it was the hard brake pads that Subaru uses. He said that since there is no asbestos in the pads any longer, the pads are much harder. He said we should all complain to Subaru to use a different pad. Hope that helps!
  • I have a 2005 Outback w/ the 2.5. The car only has 22k miles, but the engine has developed a persistent knock (peck). Has anyone heard of this on any other Subaru's? It is currently at a local Subaru dealer being looked at. This is my first experience doing warranty work through Subaru. How are they in performing and paying for the work? I have asked several mechanics and they said it was a valve. I noticed where older models experience a valve noise for the first 15 minutes or so, but this noise does not seem to go away. Any advice?
  • Oil level is full. The Subaru Dealer told me that if they get into the motor and find that the motor has been tampered w/ or find signs it had been ran low on oil I would be liable for the costs. Good thing is they will not find either case. The motor has never been tampered with. They did ask for my maintenance history. Right now I am being patient and nice like you say. I just hope all this gets resolved and my car is fixed.

    One thing about this car is that is sat for a considerable amount of time (6 months)w/o being driven due to my travel and the fact I have 3 other vehicles. Any idea if this would have an impact on this situation?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I wouldn't tell them it sat for 6 months. A car really needs to be ran at least 1x a month to keep things lubricated, there are parts that are only lubricated when the car is running, and by not running it, they could have been compromised.

    -mike
    Motorsports and Modifications Host
  • jeffmcjeffmc Posts: 1,742
    While it would be better for the vehicle to run it like you said...

    I could be wrong here but I don't think there's anything mentioned in the warranty that says it must be driven at least "X" times per month to keep the warranty intact. I don't see how telling them the car sat a few months would affect a decision on whether or not to honor the warranty. A car could even sit on a Subaru dealer's lot that long (thinking of slow movers like Baja, & early Tribecas). 6 months is even within the 7.5-month maximum timeframe allowed between oil changes.

    It's probably nothing you need to announce, but I also think it's not something you'd want to deliberately hide. Thoughts, Mike? :confuse:
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,396
    Yeah, I agree with Jeff on this one. While six months is quite a while, something like that should not compromise a warranty. One thing to consider though, for future reference, is to use synthetic oil in your vehicles if you know they will receive periodic use. Synthetics provide far better protection to engine components than conventional oils - even when the engine is not in use. Again, I am not insinuating that this condition is a result of the periodic use; I am stating that synthetics will offer your engines (and other drivetrain parts) better long term protection.
  • Hi Outbike,

    Thanks for sharing your findings.

    I think I am experiencing exactly the same problems. Mine is also 2006 Outback Wagon 2.5i, automatic.

    1) Strange noises from left (and sometimes even right) lower A-pillar area.
    2) Wind gusting noises from left lower A-pillar at 70mph+.

    I tried to stop noise of 1) by gently pusing the plastic cover of A-pillar.
    And it sometimes worked. When you're hearing noises of 1), please try keep pusing lower A-pillar, and let me know what happens, if you can.

    For 2), I don't know how it is happennig.

    Cheers,
    Yushin
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I agree that it shouldn't effect the warranty, however, as you said I wouldn't announce it.

    As for slow movers sitting on lots, new cars have break-in oil and special coatings that come off/wear-in in once they start being used. I think they are setup from the factory knowing they will be sitting for a while before delivery.

    Definitely though I would suggest at least starting it up once a month and drive it around the block to keep things lubricated.

    -mike
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 683
    Definitely though I would suggest at least starting it up once a month and drive it around the block to keep things lubricated.

    If it were mine I would warm it up completely before shutting it off. Crankcase condensate...probably acidic...should be boiled off by getting the engine to full operating temperature for a while. Though fuel injected engines don't get as much raw gas starting as older carbureted engines, crank case oil dilution at start-up is still a possibility.
  • yushinyushin Posts: 3
    Hi Outbike,

    ** I post this again since it went to wrong thread previously.

    Thanks for sharing your findings.

    I think I am experiencing exactly the same problems. Mine is also 2006 Outback Wagon 2.5i, automatic.

    1) Strange noises from left (and sometimes even right) lower A-pillar area.
    2) Wind gusting noises from left lower A-pillar at 70mph+.

    I tried to stop noise of 1) by gently pusing the plastic cover of A-pillar.
    And it sometimes worked. When you're hearing noises of 1), please try keep pusing lower A-pillar, and let me know what happens, if you can.

    For 2), I don't know how it is happennig.

    Cheers,
    Yushin
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