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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's the only real news so far for '06, unless they bring the Spec B model this model year.

    -juice
  • I have been following this post for a few months. Can anyone tell me if the new 06 2.5i Limited is a good car for highway cruising? I drive 2K+ a month on major highways and often cruise around 75-80 mph. Is the four cylinder comfortable at this range? I wonder if the mpg would be the same as a 6 cylinder due to the fact that the 6 is not working as hard. I like both models and would rather deal with better mileage but don't want an engine that is being pushed to hard on the highway (4 cylinder).

    Matthew
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Hi Matthew,

    I've owned two Subarus with the base H4 engine, and they cruise fine on the highway -- the engines are fairly relaxed at legal speeds. The 05+ Leg/OB are very refined, and cruise nicely no matter what engine, but the base H4 is quite good. For 06, you get a slight boost in power too.

    In the previous generation Leg/OB I would have no problem recommending the H6 engine for economy -- I often got 28-30mpg in my 02 LL Bean Outback with the H6, which was as good or better than my previous 4 cylinder Outback. That was the 212HP H6, which was a nice engine. The 250HP H6 in the 05+ models is also a great engine, but a bit thirsty. I have my doubts that it could get up in the 28-30mpg range on a regular basis. In fact, at 75-80mph, I know it will not be able to. At lower speeds (55-65mph) even my Outback XT with the turbo gets decent mileage, but I would get run over on most highways...

    Definitely take a test drive, I think you'll be pleased.

    Craig
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Unless you are climbing long, steep hills, or driving at very high elevations, the base 2.5l engine should be just fine, and easily the most efficient choice.

    To me the H6 is the best near-luxury choice, if your alternatives include quiet cars from brand like Lexus.

    If you live a mile high, and climb mountains regularly, then get the turbo. :)

    -juice
  • Thank you for the information. Helpful to have real world experience. I am going to test drive both engines but I think I will have a hard time justifying the 6. If I have to buy the 6 to get a sunroof, climate control, etc.. then it would be an easy choice. With the 2.5i Limited seems like all the good things are part of the package. I like the larger wheels that come with the 06 2.5i package. Last year that was my excuse to lean towards the 6. Did not like the smaller wheels on the 05's.

    Kind regards,

    Matthew
  • Hi Juice,

    What is the spec B model?

    Thank you, Matthew
  • I have an 05 Legacy 2.5i Wagon with a manual transmission. Driving a mix of hwy/city I have averaged 28-29 MPG, but I only have 2000 miles on it. The car moves right along at 75-80 MPH, and does not seem to strain at all to cruise at that speed. If legal, I think it'd do fine at 90 MPH. Yes, the turbo or 6 cyl. will get to speed more quickly, but at speed, the NA engine does quite well.
    The cost of -5 MPG and the requirement of premium fuel in the turbo and H6 models (I think the H6 requires premium) made my decision.
    You will likely be pleased with any of the engines, so enjoy whichever one you end up with.
    I would note that the Outbacks, and even the non-OB "limited" weight a bit more, so the base engine in them may feel a tad more sluggish than in the base 2.5i, however the 06 has a little more power.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    averaging 28-29 mpg??

    surely your highway / city mix is heavy on the highway. even then your mileage is quite exceptional... atypically so.

    ~Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    For that model, so it's possible if you drive more highway than city miles, sure.

    Spec B is a model in Japan, B for Bilstein shocks that it has. 18" rims, and there it's on an H6 model with a manual transmission, a powertrain combo that we have not seen here yet.

    However, the US might see only the suspension and rims, looks like ours will be a turbo, since those have proven popular here.

    -juice
  • Hi - I posted earlier about subwoofer install and need some advice after making my first "mistake" - before even getting the thing out of my house!! I connected the 8-pin connector to the sub, to see how it would seat, only to find that it is now locked in. I'm looking for for advice on whether I'll have sufficient space and the right angle to thread the cable UP from the mounted sub to the exposed head unit, or whether I should cut the cable to the sub connector and thread it back down from the head unit. I could also disassemble the sub to see if I can free the locked connector but that seems risky. Any thoughts are appreciated.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    the connector surely has a release clip. usually you push on it and open like a jaw (or clothespin, perhaps). sometimes you do have to pry something.

    but it's usually not very complicated and very typical for automotive electrical connectors.

    ~Colin
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Colin is right, the sub has a stadard plug with a release tab. Look a little closer at the connector and you will see it. I have installed/removed a couple of these subs and never ran into a problem getting the harness disconnected.

    Craig
  • Probably 60% hwy. If I drive longer on the highway, with little city, it seems to get a bit over 30. I suspect it may even get better after a couple thousand more miles.
    The computer-calculated MPG seems to be within 1 MPG of what I calculate manually.
    I am pleased with the mileage.
  • Does anyone know whether there is an auxilliary input for the 05 Outback 2.5XT stock stereo and if so, how easy/difficult it is to access? I purchased a Lowrance iWay 500 GPS/MP3 player and want to hook it up to the aux input to get voice directions and MP3's through the stereo.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    06 Legacy GT will be Unlimited only. No more standard Legacy GT with cloth, so if you want a GT it will have to be leather. It's off my short list.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Shop for a bargain left over '05.

    -juice
  • Owners of the '05 XT with cloth seating: What color is it exactly? The Subaru website just says "tweed flat woven" and the only pictures they show are with the Limited trim. The tiny color sample makes it look like a medium to dark gray, but when I do an inventory search at my dealer, the interior color comes up as black. So which is it? More of a black or more of a gray? Thanks.
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 679
    If it is the same as the GT, it is black.....and quite good looking.
  • I know the upscale trims have the radio integrated with climate control, making it difficult to upgrade with an aftermarket product. Does anyone know if the base model (2.5i) radio is easily upgraded?
  • raybearraybear Posts: 1,776
    I haven't seen one done yet on either model.
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