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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Unfortunately I can't consider the S2000 a third car year round -- during ski season, it is not a suitable substitute for an AWD wagon.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Good point.

    Unfortunately I missed the weather report and took the Miata to work today, and we might get an inch of snow. I may have to leave it here and take the Subway home. :cry:

    It's not even that I can't get around, rather the other cars on the road that play bumper cars.

    -juice
  • Unfortunately I can't consider the S2000 a third car year round -- during ski season, it is not a suitable substitute for an AWD wagon.

    In the 90s my peer group was very fond of E36 BMWs which while they are terrific in San Jose, they are less than ideal in Tahoe during ski season. For the 2-3 ski trips a year, we rented a car. It seemed to keep everyone happy, we didn't have to fight about who had to drive their own car up there, we didn't have to worry if we got in with snow on our boots, etc.
    Where I am located now, I see plenty of Miatas running around all winter on Blizzaks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I could get snows, too, but that doesn't protect you from overconfident SUV drivers that have a mass advantage of 2 to 1 potentially crashing in to my tiny little roadster.

    -juice
  • I remember being next to an Excursion on 880 in the bay area driving my friend's brand new Miata (maybe '99?) and seeing the turn signal in the right side mirror illuminate as the behemoth started to move over. After a brief freaking out and finding 3rd gear we accelerated to safety but we have termed those mirrors as "the blinker of death."
    I share your fear of SUVs.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They probably would not even know they hit you. :surprise:

    -juice
  • You're lucky. Most behemoth drivers in the Northeast don't even use blinkers.
    :sick:
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,601
    You're lucky. Most behemoth drivers in the Northeast don't even use blinkers.

    Why give away your next move? It's a war out there.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    This must've felt like a speed bump to that Excursion owner. ;)

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    -juice
  • I just brought in my '06 Outback for its 7,500 mile dealer service. I paid $113 for what amounted to an oil change, air filter, and some air in the tires. I know they 'checked' other things, but I left feeling a little overcharged for what I got.

    Whats the general consensus on Subaru dealer service -- is it worth it to pony up $350+ for the the 15,000 mile service, etc, etc?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Did they rotate the tires, too?

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Should be the same as the 7500 which should be:
    Oil Change
    Air Filter
    Tire Rotation

    The major one is 30k which includes:
    Oil Change
    Rad Drain-fill
    Brake flush
    Tire Rotation
    Air Filter
    Fuel Filter (if it has a replaceable one, some newer models don't have a replaceable one)
    Diffy Fluid Change (rear on ATs, Front and Rear on MTs)

    We used to charge about $400 for this service at AZP so expect to pay about $500 for it at a Dealership.

    -mike
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    You should only have gotten an oil change and tire rotation at 7500 miles (same at 15,000 miles too). Why the new air filter? That is good until 30,000 miles. I think you feel overcharged because you were!

    Definitely watch the dealer so that they don't add extras onto the service (such as the unnecessary air filter you paid for at 7500 miles). At the 30K mark, that can add a lot of extra $$ onto the bill. Make sure they stick to the book.
  • I just brought in my '06 Outback for its 7,500 mile dealer service. I paid $113 for what amounted to an oil change, air filter, and some air in the tires. I know they 'checked' other things, but I left feeling a little overcharged for what I got.

    Yup - you got shafted. Don't order a package - dealers load them up with a bunch of unnecessary, expensive services to pad their profit margins.

    If you need a 15,000 mile service, look in your owner's manual for what is required. Go in and order those specific services. Their "15,000 mile service" could total twice as much. How do you think they stay in business selling cars for $500 over invoice?

    Or just take it to a private garage and be done with it.
  • With a $1500 rebate offered on the Forester, does anybody feel that the Outback is really worth it's current price (with 750 rebate)......how does the Outback compare to the Forester ??
    Thanks.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    Big difference -- get them both up on the highway and then drive a twisty road and you will be able to tell the strengths of both vehicles. Forester is going on 4.5 years old, Outback is only 2.5 years old. The Outback will get a facelift for 08, while the Forester will be all new (and supposedly bigger) for 09. They have contrasting features in terms of engines, transmissions, performance, and safety.

    We have owned both, and they are both excellent cars. However, they are different enough that it deserves some careful consideration.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Actually an unbundled service will likely cost more at a dealer than the bundled service.

    -mike
  • What dealer are you referring to? At Manchester, Nh Subaru, Wakefield, MA Subaru it's about 1/3rd less than the package they offer, because the package has a lot of services added by the dealer but not required by SOA.

    I have lifetime rotate and balance on my tires, for example, so paying the dealer is going to be more costly as well. And in my experience few technicians do any of the checks suggested in the manual - they're paid flat rate so less time means more money for them and the dealer.

    If there are imprtant checks that require removal of bolts, panels etc, I rub chalk on them to see if they've been touched.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I'm not referring to any particular dealer, just dealers in general. Here they will charge you 1hr labor per item you ask them to check individually. So you are gonna rack up a lot of rate-hours that way.

    Personally I do the min amount of maintenance possible, usually I do my own as well so not really an issue for me.

    -mike
  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 795
    Yup. I brought my GT to Exeter, NH Subaru for a 7500 mile service and requested an oil change and tire rotation. Total bill was $95.95. They charged one hour shoptime for the tire rotation at 70.00! Nashua Subaru on the other hand will do an ala carte tire rotation for $20-$30 dollars.

    When I brought this to SOA's attention, they cut me a check for the $95.95, and picked up my next oil change. +1 for SOA. I have never been back to Exeter. Rob M.
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