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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That could be because the air is less humid, so the smell is less noticeable.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,080
    The "intake" for the airflow is OUTSIDE the vehicle at the bottom of the windshield (Look for the 'vents' under the wipers at the back of the hood.)

    If you turn on the "recirculate" button, then the intake is INSIDE the car... listen for the sucking sound under the dash near the gas pedal.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    Specifically thinking about the '05-'09 Outback and '05-'07 Legacy wagons and folding down the rear seats... Did they ever get to the point where you could fold them down and have a relatively flat floor, or is the bottom cushion still in the way?

    Seems like the new generation (more SUV, less wagon) can do that, but sadly the turbo and manual tranny are gone. :(
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    edited February 2011
    I had both an '07 and '08, and no, they did not "fold flat" (at least not when they were initially dropped). When something with any weight was placed on top, they would flatten out, but the heavy bolstering in both the back and seat cushions prevented that from happening without some weight to compress the foam.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Our 02 Legacy had the back seat base that you could move out of the way, so the seat backs went down farther. That was MY2000-2004 though.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    Yeah, they did that from '95 through '04, then went to the stationary seat bottoms.
  • Hi, The Stereo/climate control panel face plate(86213AG61A) was replaced in April 2009 (under warranty at that time) on my 2005 Outback Sedan because the temperature and radio controls kept flashing. The other day, the temperature and radio controls did not come on a couple of times, but they have since then. Shouldn't that part last longer than this? Any idea of how long it can be expected to last or what might affect that? I'm taking the car in tomorrow, but it's a very expensive part so I thought I'd see if anyone happened to see this question tonight. (I'm hoping it might have a simpler fix, but we are headed into a foggy area next week so I can't take a chance and nothing might show up in testing.) Thanks very much.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    Last longer? Yes, I would think so, but then it sounds like it didn't last any longer than this the first time around, either! If it is just an intermittent thing (no regularity to it), my suspicion is that it is a cracked solder point or, perhaps, a poor harness connection.

    If the problem is very widespread, you might even be able to find instructions on how to repair it (DIY).
  • pathtomaxpathtomax Posts: 215
    Mine does it mostly in the cold weather. With the warmer weather, it is fine again. I did take videos of it to show the dealer for my next visit.

    I did read about someone soldering/fixing a connection. I am NOT mechanically inclined, but could tell the dealership what to do. Is it easy to get to?
  • saywhatsaywhat Posts: 61
    Anyone know how to disable the warning bell for the front seat belts in the 05 legacy turbo?

    Thanks!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    My Sienna has a bizarre sequence you have to follow precisely, step by step.

    I did it because the front seat folds flat, and when you have cargo on it, the chime would go off! It thinks a person's weight is there.

    Hopefully Subaru has something similar.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    It is a bizarre sequence. I don't recall it precisely, but I seem to recall it involving turning the ignition on and off a few times as well as latching/unlatching the seatbelt in sequence about 20 times within 30 seconds. ?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, something like that. It's the type of thing you'd want to have written down and maybe even practice once.
  • bpeeblesbpeebles Posts: 4,080
    My Subaru chime drove me NUTS because I had to take off my seatbelt for work.

    I was able to 'silence' the seat-belt warning chime. As I recall it was pretty simple like "repeatedly plug-unplug the the seatbelt into the latch 20 times in succession within 30 seconds"

    As I recall I did it with the engine idling. AND IT WORKED!!!

    No more chime when I remove my seatbelt.

    Here is a Youtube link showing the procedure.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Nice find.

    Gotta love the Subaru Crew! :shades:
  • This is a post about the issues I've had with car since new. I've owned four new Subaru's since 1996. In posting this I hope it helps others. I purchased Subaru extended warranty for this car w/ $ 100 deductible. I have reported to two things to nhtsa.gov, the wheel bearing and tpms issue. Also, this website has others who have had the same wheel bearing replaced. 2005-06, wheel bearing failure. I contacted Subaru and told them that this is a safety issue, which can damage other components. I suggested they find another company to supply them with the bearings or study why they are failing prematurely. Subaru rep took my statement & that was it. Car has been serviced only by Subaru dealer for everything including tire changes. I have 2 yrs left on the extended warranty & shudder to think what it will cost me to repair it after that. This car started falling apart way too early. I take good care of my vehicle & don't neglect it. I know other car mfg have issues & no car is perfect but I'm frustrated & disgusted w/ car. :sick:

    Thank you

    1) @ 13,000 (1yr old) driver side left front wheel bearing failure. It took 15 months and several trips to dealer because the noise was intermittent they couldn't fix it until it was heard. Diagnosed @ 26,000 m. I told them from the beginning it was the wheel bearing and they did all types of tests and said it was fine. Replaced under warranty.

    2. Didn't take test drive @ night. Since new, headlights have sharp cutoff & don't illuminate too far ahead. Asked dealer if headlights could be adjusted, no. There are complaints on nhtsa.gov for this issue.

    3. Noticed driver seat creaks when making turns. Dealer says nothings wrong. Trim pieces in back window pillars popping out. Dealer replaced both sides. New ones are doing the same.

    4. Brakes spongy & go to floor. Subaru is not known for their great brakes. Dealer said, all is normal. I've had the lines bled, new fluid & front & rear disc, pads replaced there hasn't been improvement. All at my expense.

    5. 5/10 New windshield replaced. Driving down street (25 mph) small rock hit windshield, cracked length of vehicle. I know it may be design of slanted windshield.

    6. Driving on highway & residential street, noticed rock chips on hood of car within 1st year.

    7.@ 2 yr (24,000) both trunk hinges are creaking loudly. Tech confirms failed trunk hinges. Replaced under warranty. I've had several rust buckets and never had a creaking hinge.

    8. Car from new stutters like it's going to stall and dealer says can't find any codes, nothing wrong. My 06 Outback did the same thing.

    9. Misaligned glove box (left side sags) from new. Dealer said no fix for this.

    10. Large gap on left side between trunk & body. Tech found trunk latch out of adjustment.

    11. @ 3 1/2 yrs (38,000) tires losing air. Dealer inspected couldn't find anything. Charged me to diagnose. I have two sets of tires, so I monitored the condition w/ the other set. It has been a somewhat slow but noticeable leak, added air.

    12. 4 yrs (41,000) In to mount tires. Dealer called, transmission lines leaking. I told them I didn't see fluid on ground. Dealer said that it's rubber & something may have cut, or it wore out. I was suspicious but told them to replace. covered by warranty.

    13 . 7/12 (43,200) In for oil change. Tech finds drivers side front outer axle boot was cracked & all grease leaked out. Dealer asked if I heard noise while driving. I'm very aware to sounds & will not neglect my vehicle. Even though all grease leaked out but I didn't hear sounds they only replaced the boot & not shaft/cv joint. I think the shaft/cv joint should have been replaced since boot leaked grease, possibly getting dirty & failing early. In time, the cv joint might fail prematurely. I explained to dealer & was assured it was okay. Dealer said, boots are rubber & fail over time. My 7 yr old Impreza never needed a boot & that car survived harsh VT winters, long commute to work & no garage. Maybe Subaru is making them thinner.

    14.. 9/12 (43,000) I spray soap/water mix find bubbles @ base of metal tire valve. Call Subaru warranty to find out if TPMS failure is covered. They confirm it is. Taking car in Nov. to put on snows, will wait till then.

    15. 11/12 (45,000) Tell dealer I found air leak @ valve stem. They tell me that it could be corrosion & wouldn't be covered under warranty. Tech confirmed 3 were leaking & I said it's premature for them to leak. The TPMS is 1 unit & it doesn't come in separate pieces. Dealer said there is "no code for leaking valve stem." They replace 3 sensors & tell me" we"ll tell Subaru it wasn't corrosion & make it covered under warranty somehow." I will inform Subaru of failure. At this point, I don't think it's worth my time.
  • Honestly, 1, 4, 5, 6, 11, 14, 15, sound like wear and tear or as designed to me.
    Call us when your cat, head gasket or transmission go.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    A few of the things are just what they are.

    Paint chips - that's just par for the course. Paint nowadays is not as durable as it once was, and experience will differ based on road and traffic conditions from one day to the next.

    Headlights? Yours might need some realignment, but the "sharp cutoff" is an artifact of projector-style headlights. Your visibility wouldn't necessarily be better with non-projector headlights, but you wouldn't notice the transition as much.

    Windshield - I feel your pain. For what it's worth, though, the '08 glass was more durable than later offerings! It's tough to get good glass now, and even the best stuff can crack with the right chip.

    Interior squeaks, rattles. Yep, that's what makes a Subaru, a Subaru. ;)

    The other stuff:

    Wheel bearings - documentation is pretty stout with premature failures here. Frustrating that it took them 13K miles to fix it, but at least you documented it early. That could make a difference as you near the ext. warranty end (too bad you didn't go with zero deductible!).

    Boot failure - happens. Like with paint and glass, you can't really compare one situation to the next, as there may have been debris that contacted the part or some other condition not present in a past example that hastened this one's demise. That said, I would have insisted on axle replacement under warranty for exactly the reasons you specified. Had it been out of warranty, I wouldn't be opposed to a fly-by-night boot replacement to extend the life of the axle a little before having to replace the whole thing. The axle joints don't generally fail by themselves - the boot fails first, followed by joint failure under accelerated wear conditions.

    Brakes - can't help you there. I've also had four Subaru vehicles, and the brakes have worked great on all of them. If yours really does travel "all the way to the floor," then, as you and I both know, they're not working correctly.

    TMPS failure. I'd count myself fortunate! Put regular stems in there and never look back! :D Seriously, though, with that sort of nanny stuff, I'd expect it to last as long as there's warranty on the car. So, if corrosion was the excuse, then that's pretty flimsy.
  • Do you think these problems are going to continue i had a subaru iimpreza air condition was gone after two years didn't replace I had oil leaks cost a plenty i takee excellent car of my cars I had a reciept for everything done all those years finaaly it needed a repair that costs 500.00 I was done so I bough a mazda 3 cute care but I really miss my subaru and hope to buy one by next year. I sold that car for 1000.00 would not come done tolpeole
    i'll just kep it they fixed it it's so cute I really miss it
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    $500 is not an expensive repair nowadays.

    My buddy needed brakes and tires at 21k miles on his Range Rover Sport and it was over $2k!
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