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Subaru Legacy/Outback 2005+

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  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Patti,

    That's some major endorsement coming from you, especially the earlier comment about 5EAT being smooth and fun to drive.

    I even stopped by my local dealer to check on when the GTs are coming in.

    I'm faaaaalllllliiinnnnnnnggggg!

    Ken
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    So when did the local dealer tell you the GT's WERE coming in?????

    :)
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    on a VERY smooth and comfortable landing - in a new Subaru!

    Patti
  • tlimatlima Posts: 124
    Ok, merging onto I95 N today in Rhode Island, and low and behold, an '05 Outback cruising along side. License plate was a RI plate, but had the letters M.E.D vertically along the left side and a low number. I assumed it was a Doc or something, but maybe M.E.D. stands for something else. It was not a dealer plate.

    Anyway, the guy driving noticed me looking as I passed in my '01 Forester, he then came around and passed me on the left. It was a silver metallic with only the words Subaru and Outback on the back. No dealer insignia or hideous dealer plate frames.

    Looked nice, very sleek, and kinda small. It was tall, with the suspension rods angling way down towards the wheels. Lots of ground clearance here. Looks a little Volvo-ish - which can be seen from the pics here and there.

    From checking this forum, I didn't think they were out for sale yet, but maybe I missed it.

    Awaiting the sedans....
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    I was told early June.

    Ken
  • beanboybeanboy Posts: 442
    Told early to mid June at my local Soobie dealer in Norwood, MA.
  • iluvsubaru2iluvsubaru2 Posts: 56
    Patti, Juice, etal (and any tall 2005 OB owners):

    I've had a yearning for the OB VDC ever since I drove one, years ago. Unfortunately the MANDATORY moonroof made comfort, let alone crash safety, an insurmountable problem to buying one.

    I've seen photos of the 2005 OB and it appears to have a "hump" in the roof. Is there more headroom in the 2005 OB vs 2004?

    Absent more headroom in 2005 will Subaru USA at last decouple this valuable safety feature from the moonroof by making the moonroof optional in the OB VDC? Appreciate any input.

    Thanks,
    Jake (a 6'4" Forester owner)
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,020
    We're editing the title and moving this entire discussion to the Subaru Crew board.

    Community Manager If you have any questions or concerns about the Forums, send me an email, karen@edmunds.com, or click on my screen name to send a personal message.

  • purduealum91purduealum91 Posts: 223
    and Im not even considering an 05! Considering an 04 Outback I am.
  • magoonmagoon Posts: 32
    My local dealer is scheduled to receive a silver GT Ltd 5 speed on May 17. I ordered it early but will not be taking delivery though. I bought a Volvo S60R instead.
  • bblachabblacha Posts: 160
    New England dealers have had the Outbacks and Legacy 2.5i's for almost two weeks now. But I don't think they're allowed to sell. Must've been a dealer-owned car.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Dealers have the 2.5i models. No turbos spottings yet, though.

    The new ones do have more head room. Here's me in the back seat of a sedan with a moonroof, I'm 6' even:

    http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4288069365&p=4194565477- &idx=47

    -juice
  • iluvsubaru2iluvsubaru2 Posts: 56
    Juice,
    Thanks for the link to your photos. They suggest a couple inches more of headroom over the 2004. Does that sound right? That might get me into a 2005 OB VDC. Any idea if the moonroof is mandatory on VDC?
     
    Earlier postings on this board (re: VDC on more trim lines, models) express similar frustrations I've experienced trying to buy a Subaru with VDC. Why, I wonder, after all these years, is VDC still only offered on one trimline. Many Subaru wannabes are now offering AWD sedans, wagons (and God knows what else in 2005) and some have stability control options across all model lines.
     
    Safety sells. Foresters prove that. But Subaru's improvements in crash protection arn't matched by similar improvements in collision avoidance. Subaru seems to be leaving the market to others.
     
    Jake
    PS: Pleased to see 2005s offer Side Air Curtains. Half of all the traumatic brain injuries occur in auto crashes. If well designed and executed, side curtains with large SABs offer a lot of protection from TBI. Hope 2005s get early IIHS/NHTSA reviews.
  • vincentwangvincentwang Posts: 42
    I'm considering a 05 legacy, seems both have similar MPG. Why?
    I only test drived the 04AUTO, it's smooth. How about the maunal one? I have no idea which one will be more durable in long-trem.
    Thanks in advance!
  • rob999rob999 Posts: 233
    The similar MPG in the auto vs manual is due to the higher axle gearing in the MT version. At highway speed the MT is forced to rev higher (3,500 RPM at 75 MPH) than the auto version (around 3,000 - 3,100 in the auto, IIRC)

    Why Subaru uses the higher ratio in the MT is beyond me. Fuel economy and highway cruising would be greatly improved with a lower ratio.

    My top wish for the 2006 MT models - lower axle ratios and a MT transmission with a wider low-high range. OK, make it a 6-speed too.
  • r34r34 Posts: 178
    I knew the current Legacy was made in US. Some said the 2005 will be made in Japan but some said it will be built in US.

    I checked Edmunds and it said it will be manufactured in Japan ? If it is the case, it is a plus.

    Usually, how much rebate or incentive we can get from Subaru (of course not in the first year) ?

    Thanks.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Outbacks AND Legacies for the US/Canadian market are made in Lafayette, Indiana.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,426
    I also wish a 6 speed was available. Except it seems like many manufacturers make 6th gear where 5th was to eeek out a couple of tenths to 60. I think they percieve shifting down at highway speeds a huge weekness, so they don't like tall gears in "sporty" cars. A corolla is about 2,900 rpm @ 75, hence its EPA 40 mpg highway. TSX is about 2,100 @ 60 for the automatic, but 2,600 for the 6-speed. Hence the automatic gets better highway mileage. The Miata 6 speed is 3,000 at 60, so it gets worse highway mileage than some V-8's.
  • mjc440mjc440 Posts: 76
    I own a 2004 Legacy 5 spd manual. When the '05s come out, I'll be getting the auto. I really dislike the manual. It is geared way to LOW (HIGHER numerically axle ratio). At 70 MPH, the engine is turning 3,000 RPMs.

    I just checked my gas mileage (ran through about 10 tanks) and got 30.5 MPG (primarily highway - between 65 - 70 MPH), so gas mileage isn't too bad considering the low gearing.
  • pon1pon1 Posts: 196
    Cool pictures posted on subaruoutback.org, follow links to forums/general/2005 US Leg and OB models...

    Not sure I am allowed to post a link

    JP
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