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Lexus GS 300/GS 430



  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Thanks for putting some sanity into all this. I'm not a reckless driver and I do mostly highway driving so hopefully I can get more than 15k out of those tires.
    I just got another nice lease offer and I do believe I will take them up on it.
    I love the GS430.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Posts: 1,289
    If you're not even close to being part of the *Fast and the Furious* crowd you will definately get more than 15K miles out of a set of tires and definately more than 20K out of brakes.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    Thanks. I have an appointment Wednesday to drive the GS 430 one more time before I seal the deal. Never had a Lexus before.
  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    I almost closed on a GS430 this morning. Was offered a very good deal.
    Same thing. Found the driver's seat extremely uncomfortable. The seat back could not be straightened close to vertical. The most upright position I could achieve put a strain on my back as it caused me to lean back too much. No deal.
    Went next door to try a BMW 545 and found the driver's seat much more satisfactory.
  • sdcalsdcal Posts: 16
    Sorry folks, I know I'm not going to be popular on this site, and was really just "checking it out," but I had to comment on this post.

    I test drove all the suspects (M's, GS, 545i). They are ALL REALLY NICE CARS. However, I was under whelmed with the 5 series. Not enough bang for the buck, and the interior was too primitive. The GS was very nice, but didn't excite me from the driving perspective. I went with the M45 Sport and am not the least bit disappointed. To say it accelerates like an old pick-up is really a joke (I guess the objective folks at R&T just don't know cars...). The bottom line is if you want a luxury car that's kinda sporty, get the GS, if you want a sports car that more than kinda luxury, get the M.

    By the way, in either case, get the V8 (IMO). If your worried about gas mileage, try to Accord. It's almost as good as the Luxury versions and a lot more "practicle."

    "Can't we all just get along."
  • I have to disagree with the V8, not everyone needs it, the GS300 V6 is great for me. I had the Accord and indeed its a terriffic car and I think you get alot for your money for 26K in the loaded Accord V6 leather, but the GS300 is in a completely different league...

  • I should also add that the GS300 gets the same gas mileage on hwy (30mpg) as the accord which is a testament to Lexus engineering for putting out 30mpg on a heavier more"energy consuming" platform...

  • dcgasmandcgasman Posts: 4
    Hey hpowders,

    "Driver's seat was extremely uncomfortable" but you eventually closed a deal on a GS 430 anyway? What put you over the top and convinced you to get the 430 and not the 545, with its "much more satisfactory" seats :) , or the M, which I know was also under consideration in some of your earlier posts.

    By the way, I've had my GS 430 for about two weeks - couldn't be happier! Hope your experience will be the same.


  • hpowdershpowders Posts: 4,269
    No. I didn't close the deal on the GS430. The driver's seat was too uncomfortable for me. I have a very sensitive back and couldn't get comfortable. Wanted the seat back more vertical. Sat in the LS430. Much better seat but am not interested in that vehicle.
    Yes, the 545 is one heck of a fine car. No problem with the seats.
  • Take pity on a new member to the board. I am emptying the next of kids to haul around/ and or their stuff to college. My current vehicle is a 1993 Toyota Previa with 155 K miles. Even though we are in the middle of college, I have sacrified long enough (since Dad has a relatively new truck, ATV, dirt bike, and motorcyle). Just about anything would be a step up- but I am interested in a luxury sedan to enjoy. I have a long drive of 30+ miles one way through Dallas traffic and I want a luxury car to enjoy.
    I have admired Acura and Lexus for many years, but my secret prejudice has always been for Lexus. For someone contemplating a Lexus, how would you all suggest I go- new or used? Any dealer suggestions in the DFW area?
  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    That depends on what car you're looking for and how much you want to spend. The GS is of course new this year. If you're willing to consider the old one, however, it sat basically unchanged from 2001-2005, so you can get into a loaded '02 GS430 with Nav and the ML stereo for maybe half of the original sticker. The LS430 received powertrain and styling updates for '04, but the '01-'03 LS430s are still excellent cars (I know, I drive one). Thanks to the best reliability of any luxury car company, any used Lexus is a safe choice.
  • The first question which will determine everything is how much you want to spend..

  • I want to stay around 40K. What do you suggest in that range?
  • Loaded ES330? I think the GS with tax and all will push you into the 45 range unless you are one of the guys who can get 4 grand off MSRP like some guys here have done.

  • lexusguylexusguy Posts: 6,419
    $40K can get you into a new ES330, an '03 GS430, or an '02 LS430. Or, if you really want to have some fun, try a '02 SC430 (provided you dont need any trunk space). Frankly I think the lightly used cars present much greater values than a new ES330. They have already taken the biggest depreciation hit, and should be trouble free for many years. The SC especially is the planet's most reliable car.
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    It would be nice to know what needs you have regarding size (eg. back seat for kids). If I was in college and had no kids, the Acura TL or the Infiniti G35 coupe with the MT would be a blast. You could also pocket a little change. Since you say a sports sedan and you are posting here on the GS board, a used GS430 would probably be the way to go. Look at the G35 sedan and the M35, though.
  • Just curious, why is the SC the planet's most reliable car- relative to an LS or GS?

  • Youngest is 17 and unwillingly goes anywhere with parents. Probably only back seat needs long term will be move college man from one apartment to another and semi annual visits to the in-laws 500 miles away. Thanks for the suggestion on the Acura and Infiniti. I guess I have admired my sister in law's Lexuses for a dozen years in the minivan so that is my initial leaning. How do realiability of Acura and Infiniti measure up to Lexus- not to mention repair costs?
    As my brother the engineer put it, "The problem with the nice cars is they have a lot of neat stuff to break. My Toyota has been good but doesn't have all the neat stuff my wife's Lexus has and that neat new stuff seems to like to break (automatic folding mirrors for example). Also the repairs are much more on her Lexus than my Toyota (even regular scheduled maintenance like 30K mile maintenance)."
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    Sorry, I misunderstood your initial post. I overlooked the "emptying the nest of kids" and focused on "in the middle of college".

    If you want a sport sedan, look at the Acura TL (although you will hear of understeer from the FWD), GS, G35, M35, or any 3/5 series.

    If you want reliable luxury, look at a used Lexus LS.

    If you want a nice sedan that will respond when you floor it but may not handle the curves quite as well as the sports sedan, you might check out the new Avalon (fully loaded for around 38k). Another alternative if you don't want to draw attention to yourself but want a reasonably fast sedan and want to feel good about yourself would be the Honda Accord Hybrid (fully loaded for--I think--about 33k)
  • r1_97r1_97 Posts: 181
    Try a new RX330. My wife loves hers.
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