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GS300 with Destination charge + Preferred Accessory Package + Moon Roof + Sun Shade + Ventilated Seats + Rear Spoiler + Rain-sensing Wipers = $45,879 retail and $40,226 invoice.
Profit of $5653 or 14.1%
M35 with Destination charge + Journey Package = $43,300 retail and $39,656 invoice.
Profit of $3644 or 9.2%
In my next life, I want to be a Lexus dealer.
What about them Bentley dealers? >.< just playin
Bill
If they can build and sell 100k (potential) Avalons, they can pump out another 20k 3.5 for the more profitable GS.
So the 3.5 will be more potent than it is right now.
And I doubt there will be any difference between the 3.5 in the GS and the one put into the IS350.
The way Lexus is handling this lends great credence to a 300HP 3.5.
Along with there quotes of future higher performance models in the pipeline.
I would've waited 'til Spring 2006 to release the GS, after the IS got off to a good start.
DrFill
As the 6s near and hit 300+, it also means the 8s are going to have to keep gaining power as well. Mercedes replacement for their 3-valve SOHC 5.0L V8 should be quite an engine, considering how much power the new 350 engine has over the old 320.
Bill
The GS look just did not do it for me. Nicely put together but does not look like $50K and looks "bulky".
Maybe, it is because of the sculpted trend that is prevalent today in other high end cars.
Hmmm...well, look at the resales on the G35's and FX models. They are holding well. BTW, who has "proven" their products are worth the money?
Also, every car review of the Infiniti G35 mentions the one thing all near-luxury cars hate to hear....cheap plastic. There's better plastic on fisher-price toys...Infiniti is on the right track but has a few more years to go.
The M35 is gorgeous inside, roomy back seat, although not like the 05 Avalon. I'm currently in a 2001 Avalon, but wouldn't buy the 05 version, since it doesn't resemble a luxury car like my "old" one does. They've cheapened the car in the way it is finished.
The M35 rode very nicely, lots of power, and very comfortable. I tried the M35AWD version. It's an expensive car, and I wonder what other people say about it. At the moment, it's my number 1 choice, and ..get this . . my wife's number 1 choice, too.
Definitely not. Infiniti as a brand has only been making real product for about 3 years, and thats not enough time to even get close to the level of cachet of BMW or Mercedes. The Infiniti name itself still doesnt mean much of anything to anyone yet, but if Infiniti can keep producing very strong cars, eventually, it will.
Looks like the IS will not face such problems getting accepted.
It looks like this large sports sedan idea maybe over Toyota's head.
DrFill
Now, I'm not trying to convince anyone else about the GS, but seems like some posters are trying to convince me of its not so virtuous attributes. Well folks, too late! And you would have been wasting your time anyway. I picked up my GS430 last week and its absolutely everything I thought it would be and it is the only car I could even imagine spending my 60K on. Is it perfect? No. But give me and others some credit, I don't plunk down that kind of change without knowing exactly what I'm getting. And what I got is a refined, elegantly understated, smooth as silk, luxury sport sedan with enough grunt to fulfill my occasional need for speed. And lest I short-shrift one of the most important attributes, I know this baby will be there when I need her, not sitting in the dealer's garage for yet another repair.
And oh yea, what's the big beef? And what are some of the reviews saying? Well, there are a few out there and I have yet to see one that's even close to bad. In fact, there are a couple that are down right glowing, but of course some would dismiss those out of hand as not being very thorough, similar to the edmunds review. Well, at the end of the day it doesn't matter anyway. The real tale of the tape will be measured against the consumer. I say the GS is a winner and as evidenced at my dealer, they can't keep 'em on the lot. Some of you here obviously think it's a dud. The good thing is, it will not take long to find out. Hmm... seems like I had this same discussion a couple of years back about the RX and FX...turned out to be no contest. We'll see.
I have no doubt the GS will be the 3rd best seller in this segment after the E and the 5.