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Scion tC

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  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    genee, have you checked your right foot for lead lately?
    :blush:
    Mackabee
  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    Mackabee, my family all says that if we want to get somewhere ... let Mom drive. I will admit that 90% of my driving has been in town but all freeway driving is done between 65 and 75. ;) The little guy has never been on a road trip of more than 60 miles each way. I just was curious and added up all the gas put into him and found my overall average a bit short of expectations. ... I guess I should have opted for the Corolla :shades:
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,727
    I'm at about 6K too now. Since spring hit, I have been getting about 24-25 per tank. I do all around town (probably never get more than 10 miles from the house), witha fair amount of stop/go on my 3 mile commute. Rest is suburban driving, with shor thighway bursts (usually about 5 miles at a time).

    On my few highway trips, I have gotten about 30-32, running +/-70.

    Yes, the tC doesn't get quite the mileage it could (or should). Blame the gearing, and the curb weight.

    Still, 25 overall local driving isn't bad, considering the performance it offers. If you want better, trade it in on a Putt Putt Corolla CE, and maybe you will get 30-32 overall instead.

    Just do the math to see if the $5-10/month you save will be worth the trade off!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    Hey, stickguy! My kids had fits when I told them I was thinking about a Corolla. They gave me this song-and-dance about having to keep up my image. I told them that at 65 I wasn't too worried about image. But, the tC does turn a lot more heads than the Corolla. Especially since I detail the Black Cherry guy a couple of times a month. (It IS nice to have nothing but time...) :blush:
  • 94gp94gp Posts: 2
    Details about the 2006 tCs were released by Toyota yesterday: http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/05-25-2005/00036895- 67&EDATE=

    Numerous audio upgrades/improvements are mentioned, and the cars are supposed to begin arriving in dealers next week (according to the Car Connection). Wow!
  • oozazoozaz Posts: 6
    I was disappointed to find out from Scion that they have nothing planned to accomodate 2005 tC owners with the iPod compatibility that the 2006 will have.. I thought the tC was meant to be modified, and Scion was looking for that added business? I don't see why they wouldn't be looking into providing owners with the availability of this mod..
    I'm still bummed that they were unable to install my auto dimming mirror in combination with my side curtain airbags..
  • Thanks 94gp...I was told of the June delivery date but your post gives all the details. My '02 RSX goes away the end of next month...thank God...and the '06 tc will be its replacement. I am glad I waited a month as I was about ready to commit on a White ( I'm in AZ) '05 but the changes are definitely worth the extra money...plus less depreciation. I am new to Toyota products after 200 or so automobiles in my lifetime. Just purchased an '05 Tacoma Double Cab that is the best truck I've ever owned...traded a '03 Honda Pilot. No more Honda products!!!
    The tc is a great value and a great driver...plus I want to screw up Toyota's age demographics for the Scion brand.
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    65!!! Well there goes our demographics! :) I knew this car would appeal to all age groups. I'm waiting to see what changes are coming up for 2006 before I get mine. All I know so far is upgraded stereos, a couple of new colors, and maybe. Don't tell anyone yet since it's still in the 'planning stages" a Luxury Edition tC!! I filled out a questionaire for our dealership regarding future plans for Scion and the one on the tC asked if there was a luxury edition would customers prefer leather or suede such as on the Lexus IS300. I chose the suede material as it would probably keep cost down. I told them to keep the car affordable as it is now and not to make the mistake(s) they made with the Celica and Tercel. Those two started reasonably priced and by the end of their existence were way overpriced for what you got, (IMHO)./
    :shades:
    Mackabee
  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    I have 11.5k miles on my tC, check nearly every tank full and consistantly get 28.5 MPG. The lowest I ever recorded (once) was 28, the best 33.5. There is a good deal of in-town highway (not expressway) driving at 55 - 70 MPH but also a very healthy dose of normal suburban traffic. I do not make any extra effort to nurse the gas thru and enjoy playing with the performance of the car.

    I've seen reports of people claiming to get in the low 20's and think they must be driving at full throttle on a 45 degree grade at all times. Maybe I have a freak, but I could not be more pleased with my mileage. Heck, I would have been happy with the sticker 23 MPG after 2 years in a Jeep that got 15.

    What gives? I've never seen such a disparity in reported fuel economy on a car. The car mags seemed to have trouble getting the 23 MPG. Based on my experience thus far, if I got 23 I would be looking for a hole in the gas tank.
  • osu1298gradosu1298grad Posts: 22
    Hi there.

    Okay, my question requires brutal honesty, so fire away for those interested.

    I ordered an '05 in late April and received a call yesterday that it will be in early next week. However, I will be on vacation then and I was told they can hold it until I get back. I recently caught wind of the '06 changes and I am starting to have my doubts about the '05. A security deposit was not required, so I have nothing "down" on the car right now.

    Here's where I need your honesty... would it be unethical for me to not take delivery on the '05 and have them put in another order for me on the '06? My guilty conscious has my paranoid, but I don't want to lose money on new additions that could add to the resale value down the line, plus depreciation I would be losing on the '05 since there is no "discount" for older models. I know I'm showing up late in the game with these realizations, I was just wondering if you were in my shoes, what would you do?

    As a side note, these cars are selling like hotcakes at this dealer... I've never seen a tC sit on their lot more than a couple of days.

    Thanks in advance!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,727
    If you chagned your mind, tell them you don't want the car. They will sell it to someone else. If you want an '06, they should be hap[y to order you one. It's still better than losing a customer entirely.

    keep in mind that there will possibly be a price increase though.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,709
    at $200.00 more for the 2006 model.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • osu1298gradosu1298grad Posts: 22
    Thanks for your reply stickguy.

    I just got off the phone with my dealership, they were very understanding and didn't hesitate at all to help me. Since the wait on the '05 silver streak was 5 weeks, this will probably sell as it is delivered.

    Now that I've put in a new order, the wait time will be 3-4 more weeks, hopefully it will arrive at the end of June.

    I don't mind the $200 price increase. With the modifications and the fact I won't be losing as much in depreciation, I feel this is a better situation for me.

    Thanks again, I appreciate your input. :)
  • callmedrfillcallmedrfill Posts: 729
    The '05 tC is having it's best months ever this Spring, and the changes are modest to the '06.

    Sales don't need a spike now! Maybe in the fall, when most '06 are released.

    DrFill
  • enroncfoenroncfo Posts: 5
    I know the tC comes with either Potenza's or the Yoko's, does anyone have an opinion about which is better? I know the Potenza's don't have a great rating, especially in snow and living in upstate NY, that is a definite concern. What about the Yoko's? Anyone have a winter experience to share? Also, can you request which tires you want on the car? Last check at my local dealer, 4 tC's, 2 cars with each kind, so it really doesn't seem like it would be a big deal if I wanted the Yoko's over the Potenza's, right? What is the general consensus on the tires with you guys? Keep in mind, snow tires are not really an option, I've driven in snow my entire life and never had a real problem, but then again, never had a sporty car either.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,727
    In 7K, I have no complaints about the portenzas. But, If I lieve in upstate NY (and I spent 4 years in Schenectady), I would absolutlely go with dedicated snows.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • enroncfoenroncfo Posts: 5
    Union College stickguy? Any word on which tires are on the 2006 model?
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,727
    up, spent 4 years at Union. Guess you know the area.

    Also, over the weekend, I saw a tC in bright red (looked goofy IMO), and also that light tealish-blue. Couldn't get into that one either.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    The 05 tC came out last June so it's only logical to release the 06 in June also.
    :)
    Mackabee
  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    I have 11.5k on the Potenzas and lived thru a Michigan winter with them. I had serious doubts because of their poor ratings but was pleasantly surprised that they were not as bad as I had anticipated. I realize that isn't a glowing endorsement, but the Duelers on my RX were worthless in snow in comparison - so much for 'ratings'. I would clasify them as only "fair" in snow/wet, dry and noise. Wouldn't be my choice but I can live with them for a while.

    That being said, I will change (probably Pirelli PZero Nero) when these wear out. The Potenzas are donig well enough to keep me from the added expense of early replacement, but I won't buy them when I have the choice. No help on the Yoko's, but I'm interested in what you find out about them.

    I nixed the dedicated snow tire idea. Given this type of car and the urban setting I'm in (snow gets cleared rather quickly) another set of tires and wheels just doesn't seem worth the expense.
  • axiomowneraxiomowner Posts: 76
    My thoughts exactly. The Portenza's worked better in the snow than expected. But, I'll be trying to find something with longer treadlife and less-sporty ride when the time comes.
  • yaron_usayaron_usa Posts: 1
    but I could succeed. I did this when I was ordering my '05, and I demanded the yokos instead of potenz but I was told there's nothing that could be done about which tires the car came with. Well, I did good on my trade-in value, so I didn't push it (plus I know he wants to make some money too). I know the 1.0 comes with yokos... think about getting that? then again, I have no clue if those all sold or what.
  • enroncfoenroncfo Posts: 5
    I work in Clifton Park and live in Lake George, know the area quite well. I'm thinking about what tires I want to be on when the Northway doesn't get plowed this winter and I have a 35 mile trek north.

    Also,
    Anyone know anything about the color changes? I kinda liked the Indigo, I was looking to get Flint Mica myself, but that blue was pretty sharp. Is the Nautical blue going to be any different really?
  • Just curious if anyone has had major issues with the sunroof(s). Heavy rain, hail, ice, cracks, breaks, leaks, whatever. And also a lot of the critics complain the radio door looks cheap can you remove it without breaking it? Thanks!
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,727
    the radio cover, I just leave it up, so no reason IMO to try and remove it. At least you have it if you want it.

    Only problem I have had with the roof is some creaking/groaning, but I also have a very early build.

    there have been a few posters that had a problem with the wind deflector part breaking will driving on the highway.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • 107main107main Posts: 33
    I found the interior looks nice and a cut above some others in quality.
    Definitely not a road car unless you like to feel every bump in the road and plenty of road noise.
    Drives fairly well, but not a screamer off the line. It is a tenny boppers go to school or college kind of car, sporty, but definitely not a real sports car.
    Price is right, if they discount the sticker price.
    I recently drove a Honda Civic EX SE coupe on a trip and liked it much better, but, hey, different strokes.... Both good cars I am sure.
  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    I'm one of the unfortunates that had the front deflector break while on the highway. Very disturbing experience. While the part was replaced under warrenty, this is something that definately needs a long term fix.

    The radio cover? I'm a little tired of the band-wagon of whiners crying about this. Yes, it could be a little more substantial but I find it no more "cheap" than some plastic parts in some cars costing twice the price. While mine is open most all of the time, I have not experienced any problems when I do use it. My only beef is that if there is a door over the radio, there should be controls on the wheel. Something that has apparently been addressed on the '06. Certainly no need to remove it.
  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    Funny how perceptions of the same thing can differ so much. What little road noise I find in the tC can be attributed more to the tires rather than any defaults with the build of the car - I actually find it quieter than anything else in its class (Mini, RSX...).

    I agree that this is a "sporty" car and not a true 'sports' car - but then again it isn't meant to be one - either is anything else in its class, which is what it should be compared to.

    "Teeny bopper", "College kid" car? In todays broad markets I think it unfair to generalize any car like that. My daughter is a 'teeny bopper - college kid' that drives a Silverado. I am a 52 yr old professional that drives the tC. So much for that thoery.

    The tC is thousands less than comparably equipped cars in its class. People that 'guesstimate' the cost of my car are consistantly in the low & mid 20's (it cost 17k). Hey, I'd love to see it offered at below sticker too, but it is undoubtedly the best value in its class - even at sticker.

    None of the 160 hp cars in this class are screamers off the line. I am somewhat agressive and have yet to find a situation where the car felt underpowered when I asked for or needed some umph. Again, these cars aren't designed for the track, but do offer more than adequate power and handling for some fun.

    As you say, to each his own. I drove them all while shopping and couldn't top the tC for its overall characteristics and value. And while styling is certainly subjective, I turn a lot more heads than any Civic does.

    Happy motoring.
  • 107main107main Posts: 33
    The car IS marketed for the youth. That is in the literature and what the salesman told me. I am 61 and it is a bumpy ride on the road, but so is a Honda S2000. It does ride better than two 05 H1 Hummers I recently drove on trips. Now you talk about turning heads, these turn heads. People will drive up besides you on the interstate and slow to look it over. At $137-146K sticker, they ought too! I move cars as a side job and get to drive all kinds of them.
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