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Scion tC



  • do you guys feel that your OEM Potenza's take the bumps all right? Or are the bumps all felt pretty strong? I am already planning my next set of tires for the car before I've even bought the tC! I must like this new Scion a lot! I'm leaning toward the Yokohama's because I sure liked them on my '99 Sephia. The car handled so much better after getting them.

    Who has bought a 2005 tC with Black Cherry Pearl color? Are you having trouble keeping it clean? Do they apply a wax coating for you at the dealer? Extra charge for it or do you have to wax it the first time yourself?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • I have the BC. Any dark color is going to be a little tougher to keep clean, living in Michigan, I'll have my work cut out for me. I'm use to having black cars so that comes as no shock. The pay-off is that when the BC is clean it is a spectacular color - day & night.

    My dealer put a light coat of something on it but I tried the McGuires Tech Wax as recommended on this site and was very pleased with the easy on-off and looks, yet to see how long it lasts but it is so easy to apply that it shouldn't matter.

    I too already have my next set of tires picked out, Pirelli P Zero Nero's. The Potenza's are rough but so far, that's about the only significant change I would make on the car.
  • Anyone out there have the Scion Fog Light Kit?
    Any comments, recommendations? As well equipped as the tC is, lack of fog lights is, in my opinion, a glaring ommission. No pun intended!

    They are one of those things that once you have them, you can't live without them. They come in handy on snowy nights. $425 sounds kinda steep. Please advise. Thanks.
  • jps1jps1 Posts: 2
    I saw your post at the Edmunds site and as I just placed an order for an automatic, silver w/side curtain airbags, I was told up to 8 weeks wait [ETA around Thanksgiving]here in San Diego.
    Just curious what you were 1st told and what extras you ordered or if that even influenced the ETA at all.
    I also have heard of others who ordered a specific config., but a different color arrived at the dealer and they were asked if they wanted to opt for it, but if not that they wouldn't loose their original position in the que.
    What's the scoop you got?

    Thanks for the info,
    PS: I made my mind up to order the tC [9/22/04] after researching the car for about 30 minutes; of course I had wanted a hi-mpg 2nd car for a while now: 50 mile commute daily in So Cal. freeway bumper to bumper.
  • jps1jps1 Posts: 2
    I just ordered the silver, but I wanted the Indigo originally. Indigo is intense, but in a slick way; more at day than night, but yeah, under certain lighting at night it looks way cool. The contrast with the black interior is less. The 1 thing that changed my mind is the dark color in So. Cal.- the solar effect seems to heat it more during the day, so that at about 3-4pm when you're ready to leave for home, [could be psychological] it's a little warmer in dark cars than light ones. Keeping it clean wasn't that big of an issue for me- I park in a garage at home. I guess I liked the contrast of grey/black best of all [think about the first print picture you saw of the tC; it was probably grey- marketing and designers probably agreed silver showed the cars' best profile]. Just my preference, but they all look good.
    This is weird though, you know how So. Cal. is car crazy and you don't have to look very far, so inside of about 10 minutes on the freeway you've probably seen just about every car ever made? Ever since I ordered the tC, I've been keeping my eyes peeled for any out on the road. Over the last 3 weeks I've seen maybe 2- that's it, wierd.
  • Like tonylexis I live in the Land of the Orange Cone & Road Salt (i.e., Michigan). Despite this, I plan on purchasing a Black Mica tC someday!
  • car magazines earlier today I am no less taken by the new car than I was yesterday. Some call it's design bland. Poppycock! That design looks ever so could doctor it up with body kits but just like the GT V6 Tibby from Hyundai I would leave it's clean and fresh design alone. I like it just the way it is but I agree, foglights might be nice. Not sure they're a necessity but kind of nice, though.

    Any tC owners from Idaho? I'm graduating from college(no, I'm working on a 2nd career, I'm not a young buck by any stretch!)in March of 2005 and I'm looking at a job over in eastern Idaho. Snow country. Would a tC be a pain in the rump to drive in the snow? I mean, it is FWD, right? If I go over there the Sportage 4X4 with our 4'x 8' trailer would make the trip. I'm still thinking about getting a tC later on in 2005. Nothing's cast in stone, though, of course. Who lives in Idaho on this thread that has the new retro-Celica tC?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • who owns a tC who lives in either Idaho, Montana, Oregon, Washington, Utah or North Dakota reading this thread? Who has actually taken a tC out into snowy driving? Is that a big no one-because the tC just came out in June '04 and no one has had a snowy chance yet in their tC? Oh, doesn't that sound like fun? Spinning around in circles in your tC in the snow? Now I'm gettin' all excited again!

    Speaking of spinning around, wouldn't the tC make a cool little racecar? Ever thought about racing tC's against each other in the oakie-berries somewhere, on a track? Or how about endurance racing them? This is getting more exciting all the time!!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • jcfjcf Posts: 35
    jps1 - While all my sales reps claimed that a specific color choice with SAB would take longer than a non SAB model, only one sales rep clearly explained why a specific order might not arrive within 2-8 weeks.

    Ironically, that one sales rep offered me a car first out of the 9 dealerships I had orders with - even though I had placed orders with numerous other dealerships 2 weeks earlier! Thus, in my case, placing orders with multiple dealerships helped.

    As for the listing policy and not accepting a second choice, I would expect it to vary per dealership.

    It took 3 months from my first orders for my car to arrive. Had I insisted on my first color choice, it would likely have been another 2-4 months. This is based on Aug/Sept/Oct/Nov port allotments though. One would think that future orders could see better availability and shorter waits.

    Finally, after 2 years of saving, 6 months of researching, and 3 months of waiting, I picked up my new baby. Parked under a street lamp last night, showing it off to my friends, that white sure looks sharp.
  • After an eight-month wait, I finally got my silver mica with side-curtain airbags. (The first dealer strung me along and tried to get me to accept a different color without the side airbags, while a second dealer fulfilled my order in one month. It definitely pays to be on the list with more than one dealer.)

    Fog lamps weren't yet available, but I haven't checked back since my initial purchase. I got the six-CD player, XM satellite tuner, floor mats, satin silver aluminum ball shift knob, sport pedal covers, B-pillar applique, cargo area net, cargo liner, rear lip spoiler, door-sill enhancements, mud guards and auto-dimming mirror (awesome).

    As has been stated by many others, the sound system is not the easiest to operate and I would recommend purchasing from a different vendor. The radio cover is ridiculous and takes three or more "pokes" before it will open. The dashboard display is extremely difficult to read when sunglasses are being worn, and the air conditioning is quite ineffective. (Summer time temperature in California's capitol city range from the low 90's to above 100 degrees.) My 1991 Celica cooled things off in a flash, but not so with the tC. My major complaint though, is the poor MPG. Ninety percent of my driving is done on the freeway, and it's averaging only twenty-four MPG. All that being said, the tC is fun to drive, has get-up-and-go, and is extremely comfortable. Also, with all of the add-ons and at less than $23,000 out the door, it's quite a bargain.
  • I thought you couldn't get the auto-dimming mirror option with side-curtain air bags. It had something to do with some wiring conflicts with the side-curtain airbags.
  • Wow, you went to town at the accessories counter!
    I am by no means a techy but I am amazed at the comments I've seen in/re the radio being complicated. Can't imagine what the complainants would do with iDrive! Maybe I'm lucky and maybe we just don't hear from the majority in/re the radio door, but mine poses no problem once I figured out the right touch.

    Have burned four tanks of gas and thus far have not seen less than 28.5 MPG. That is with a high percentage of hwy miles but not babying it otherwise. Haven't had a chance to try out the AC but the heater works fine so far (Michigan - gotta love it!)
    So far, my only preference would be for dials rather than button controls. As for performance, comfort, amenities, design, etc., I am totally satisfied and loving the car.
    With a car this low, the auto-dimming mirror was a no brainer for me and once you've had one on any car, you can't live without it.
    Still not seeing any around town but I guess that's a good thing from the exclusivity stand point.
  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    Gee, I have been driving one with auto-dimming mirror and side-curtain airbags for three months now. But I was also told you couldn't have leather done with the side airbags and I have that too. Granted I haven't had to test the airbags but the little tags are there.
  • I'm all for getting the auto-dimming mirror, but not if it runs the risk of causing the side-curtains to malfunction. Just because you had it done, doesn't mean it should be done.
  • JCF....Where in San Diego did you get your tC? How was the service? i also live in SD and am looking at getting one fairly soon. Please let me know how your shopping experience went so i can go to the right place. Thanks in advance
  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    My tC was configured on the site. Since the factory site would allow this configuration, I assume it approves of the two items (side airbags and auto-mirror) being on the same vehicle. I don't think they want to risk the liability if the bags were to not operate because of something they added.
  • jcfjcf Posts: 35
    volcomknurd - Out of all 9 San Diego County dealerships, I found the best sales reps at Kearny Mesa, Mission Valley, and Escondido. However, realize that all of the dealerships have several reps; so, landing the right rep is probably more important than choosing a certain dealership. Almost all of them, seriously, firmly claimed that they were the largest distributor of Scions, and thus could offer me the better selection. Don't be buffaloed by that sales line.

    If you're in no hurry, I'd choose the closest dealerships to work with, allowing you to get your service done at the same place you bought the car. If you're in a hurry and selective on your model, play several. Don't be afraid to lay down the $500 refundable deposit either. I got all of mine back with no hassles.
  • geneegenee Posts: 170
    Somewhere on this site (other thread?) there was a suggestion to logon to the Scion site and "chat" with a rep. Rather than "chat" I phoned ... twenty minutes to get past the first filter and transferred to a "specialist" who would handle my problem. Now, with a case file, I am still waiting the "I will call you right back with a solution" to the problem. Anyone else experience this frustration?
  • pdm72pdm72 Posts: 11
    Actually, you can't configure a car with side airbags and the auto-dimming mirror on the site anymore. I think they changed it not that long ago. After hearing that some people had both, I thought about checking into one without the homelink feature, but then I realized I hardly ever drive at night, since every time I think about doing it, I remind myself of the miserable time I'll have driving aimlessly around and around my neighborhood looking for a parking space when I return.

    However, I do have leather--with side airbag tags on it, actually, so it definitely is done.
  • jcfjcf Posts: 35
    genee - I'm the one who had a good on-line chat with the rep. Can't speak for the phone service though.

    OK, after a week with the new car, its my turn to scrutinize a little more:

    Positives: Impressive power, strong brakes, perfect alignment, great cruise and one touch power windows, solid, sound.

    Negatives (Besides the stereo cover, tail light, roof noise, 3rd gear, and roof deflector issues previously covered): Sloppy shifting - compared to a Miata. Long doors - a real hindrance when not fully open. Steeply sloped hood line - makes parking visibility poor. Awkward foot pedal angles - a problem for working the clutch with work boots on. Big key - inconvenient to carry in a pocket. Door opener - annoyingly tempormental for the hatch.

    Don't get me wrong though. I love the car. Its a great machine for the price.

    I put McGuard wheel locks on right away. I assume everyone else is doing something similar?
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