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Scion tC

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  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    I'll take a 9 to 11 year accord please (requires sunroof, cd, automatic, ac and alloys) thanks :) !! lol my dad said he'll help me get 1 but he prefers me to have a v6. I said "If you buy, I'll keep". But when i mentioned tC his head went thru the roof :cry: !! O well i'm 16 in 9/06 :shades:
  • Hi all, I'm getting ready to buy my first new car (finally getting rid of my clunker '93 Escort) and I'm looking at one of three cars. I'm particularly interested in the Scion tC because of the overall look of the car and all of the features that are included with the price. I am also looking at the Chevy Cobalt and the Saturn Ion. After having to pay for constant repairs on my Escort I want something that isn't really high maintenance and is a reliable car. I do realize that most people are quicker to report problems than they are with compliments and that there are at least some problems with every kind of car, but the list of problems with the Scion tC is kind of daunting. My main question is this: are there still consistent problems with the Scion? I'm reading all of these problems and wondering what percentage of owners experience these problems (from the forum it seems like many). Also, does anyone out there have any opinions regarding the "best buy" out of these three cars?
  • My tC is very well made and have had no real problems. The build quality is great. You will notice a difference in materials between the cars. Notice all of the cheap/flimsy plastic and crappy seats in the chevy + saturn..... The tC comes with 3 free oil changes and has a MUCH better resale value.

    Ions and Cobalts are heavily discounted whereas the tC has never needed them.... ;)
  • Thanks a lot for the info and comparison, I was so psyched about the Scion when I found it and will look further into it!
  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    I think you will find that most of the problem posts you refer to deal with just a handful of the same problems and even at that, alot of those are based more on personal preference. I have had my tC for 1 1/2 years, have over 25k miles on it and other than a shattered wind deflector, have had absolutely zero problems or complaints. Maybe I'm just lucky. However I do feel that I stood a better chance of being "lucky" with a Toyota vs a Chevy.

    The other 2 vehicles you're looking at may have their merits, but my extensive shopping in this class of car determined that the tC could not be beat as the best value and now it is proving itself to be the best vehicle as well. (My opinion)

    Base your decision on your personal priorities and preferences. Safety, comfort, power, handling, standard equipment, styling, resale, reliability history, utility, etc. Then choose the best fit.
  • gtwgtw Posts: 46
    My daughter's White tC was bought in July 04 and has had nothing wrong with it at all except 2 Stereo's replaced under warranty. Car has over 25k on it and is being driven by teenager. Highly recommended.
  • Thanks! I really do like the tC overall and thought the price was incredible considering all the features that come standard.
  • riposteriposte Posts: 160
    Use Edmunds' TCO (True Cost to Own) calculator for the cars you're considering. I think you might be amazed at the results.
  • lgtclgtc Posts: 1
    I've had my tC since feb of this year, and so far its been great to me. It has a little bit of everything. Although only 160hp w/o S/C, it still has some pull, even for the auto. The gas mileage isn't that bad for what it is. I haven't gone under 26mpg so far.. well, i guess it could be better :P . The ride is smooth and except for maybe the road noise being a little loud at highway speeds. The car comes with a appealing and long list of standard features i think most will enjoy. I was reassured of its rigidly when one of my friends flipped his, but the frame held up well and everyone was fine. :D
  • Karen_CMKaren_CM Posts: 5,014
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  • shom1shom1 Posts: 5
    Do any tC owners think the lack of a rear wiper is a big problem? Anyone know if the 2007 models might have them?
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    i highly doubt it. Its possible. For the time being, i recemend you use 2 coats of RAINX so the water will just bead up and roll off the window as you drive. The only way you'll see a rear wiper added is most likely during a mid life freshening.

    The down side to adding a rear wiper will be where the water will go when activated. If positioned like an 06 eclipse, the water will roll onto the "trunk" and into the cargo when opened or onto the hatch side to roll into the trunk when opened. Adding a rear wiper will be practical but will cause to many problems. Ask eclipse, tiburon or rsx owners. If not standard, it should be a $362 option. :)

    btw, its not on the 2007 tC as they're already out.
  • kylakylakylakyla Posts: 1
    When will the 2007 tc be in the showroom. Does anyone know what the changes are for 07.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    There is now 2 trim levels!! The trem levels are spec and base. Spec is the cheaper model. The tc now has a msrp of $15k for a manual and $15,800 for the auto (still a 4speed). On spec models, there are only 4 exterior colors (black, classic silver, flint, and white) and a 16in steel is standard on spec models. There is no cruise control for the spec models and the steering wheel audio controls are gone. otherwise, not much else has changed :) .

    I almost 4got, $100 has been added to the msrp :( .
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    The Tiburon is a lemon? What supports that claim?
    Here is the manufacturers initial quality data:
    JD
    and I may add the Tiburon was one of three in its class for rated tops for initial quality. Would not say the 2003 model year went smooth, but other than that, see no other bum year for the New Tib. The Scion has more road feel? More power? For road tracking, and Acura RSX or a Celica comes to mind. Scion and Tiburon are good GT or Touring Class cars. For power, I assume you are not comparing the tC to the Tiburon GT.

    Which is a better car? I guess they are different enough that there may be no clear winner. For everyday runs to the store, I guess perhaps the Scion. If you like a sunroof, Scion has it. I don't car for a sun roof. Wonder if the sunroof is gone on the Spec tC ? Extra high up weight and possible leak or rattle area, when not desired in the first place, would be a welcomed delete in my case.
    -Loren
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    and it has got me looking at the Scion tC again. I always love to dream about what I might want next and these Spec tC's have everything I would want for around $15,000. That's a great price. I would get the 5-speed manual tranny, of course! And I would get the Flint Mica color.

    The audio controls on the Scion steering wheels are OK but I noticed on the 2006 Scion xA in Polar White and 5-speeds that I drove that the audio controls were more annoying to me than helpful. I wouldn't mind the Scion tC Spec's regular stereo controls, actually.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Loren, that was in march when i said that!!! When i used the term lemon, what i ment was that it needs to be remodeled out of the old hyundai styling and molded to fit the new hyundai image.... Probably have a bigger v6 to compete with the supercharged tc, civic si, and pontiac 2007 g5/saturn ion redline/ chevrolet cobalt ss and offer a more comfortable rear seat.

    The sunroof is on the spec model. :)
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    I think it will be cool to have toyota offer a tC for the heat. What i mean is a topless tC. Convertibles are becoming popular and i think toyota will become very profitable from it. Coupes are becoming unfavorable to their topless counterpartss.

    The tC is like a celica replacement and toyota had a convertible celica in the 1990s and i think it will sell much better now. In fact toyota had 2 small convertibles, the Paseo which might sell well as a topless yaris and the celica. The problem with that celica and paseo was that they were stingy with the interior and the paseo was stingy with the HP. Seriously, if you were 6'2, would you but a cramped convertible with only 90hp and about 100lb feet of torque?

    It'll grab more attention than the BIG solara!!
  • m1miatam1miata Posts: 4,556
    Well Tiburon is an awesome looking car, so I don't know what they need to change. Yes, the 3.3 V6 at 233HP would be cool, if it fits in the engine bay.

    The Spec tC looks like a good value. Will keep watching the figures on reliability / initial quality figures. Seems like side air bags, which is now standard on many cars, should be standard.
    As far as engines go, the tC seems to have enough HP, but if they want to tweak things, I say let's see if they can get it to 175HP + without a blower. A 180# torque engine would be cool. What it has now, of course is plenty for a quick car. Now fast, when needed comes with a blower, for those that feel the need for speed.
    -Loren
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    Thats good especially for it being so pudgy. I *think* Side airbags are standard on the Blitz Blue Special Edition Model. You'll love those alticara* seats ;) but you gotta get 1 while you can or you'll be stalking those repo centers...

    I ment that the tiburon is slow for a pudgy v6 model and the tC is quick for a pudgy I4 model. :D And i dont think it is fair to compare the 4cy tibby to anything other than the standard civic? both also need to go on a gas diet. better?

    *How is that said/ spelled???
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    had all the power I would want which is why I think the 2007 Scion tC Spec would suit me just fine straight from the factory. I might change out the wheels for some hand-picked ones. I am starting to like the Flint Mica color-it has that earth tone look but still looks really sporty at the same time. That's the one I'd pick.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    If you like having the same color as EVERYBODY eles. THAT iS THE MOST COMMON COLOR. I used to like it but now the black cherry pearl is growing on me... It reminds me of my dads 1992 Acura Legend, powerwise #of doors and the whole 9 yards. The only thing missing would be the leather seats.

    In the area where I live, the dearships are offering tCs with black leather. I haven't gottten to try it yet because when i get there, they're all sold out :cry:. IMO, tc's last on the lot maybe 4days before they are sold
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    I'm including the Classic Silver or Silver Streak Mica or whatever Scion is calling the 2007 Scion tC Spec's variety of Silver on my short list. A car like the tC is just right for the silver color. It just fits the corners, angles and curves of the tC well.

    I might entertain chrome wheels with the silver.

    How are everyone's Bridgestone Potenza's holding up? Well? Are they only lasting you 20,000 miles? That's what research is saying so far. If that's the case I'll just go order a brand new tire and wheel set off the net for my tC Spec that will hold up beyond 20,000 miles. Is it rainy weather that wears them prematurely? Why are decent tires like Bridgestone Potenza's only lasting 20,000 miles? Or are they not decent tires at all. I think Yokohama makes a great tire as does Toyo. These Potenza's may not be very well made, huh?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    tC again. Something about a flat $15,000 for a 2007 Scion tC Spec in either Classic Silver Metallic or Flint Mica and 5-speeds did it to me. Did I mention a flat fee of $15,000? I don't need any extra so that is what I'll pay.

    Notice I typed that is what I'll pay, not that is what I would pay. Oh yeah, I've got it dug into my mind now that I want a tC.

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    Have y'all noticed that the Scion tC's value doesn't drop after you buy it, either? No kidding! I just did a Kelley Blue Book valuation on the 2005 Scion tC and it listed it's book price at $19,490! That must be a typo! Why would a year old Scion tC sell for more than my 2007 Scion tC Spec in 5-speeds and Flint Mica or Classic Silver Metallic?

    I think Toyota is on to something big here. :surprise:

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    :) because you pay more for a regular old tC and much less for Spec... :shades:

    Any1 like th light blue: :( :D :P
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    light blue emoticons, actually. They sort of grow on you.

    Why would a Scion tC gain value, though? Yikes.

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • autoboy16autoboy16 Posts: 992
    As i know of the only tCs to gain value is the special edition ones.

    emoticons
    u mean emotorcons? Heck i dont blame you time to ditch these emo cars for some newer ones perhaps animated...
  • waydewayde Posts: 198
    Super White / Auto! My perfect combo, no options installed from the factory so now I get to add the exact ones that I want :) (They had another white one there but it was loaded with options - 21,3xx - and I didn't want everything that was on it.) I saw that one last w/end and was scouring the Mpls area Scion dealerships for another incoming white tC with no luck.... Well, I drive tru the same dealer that I saw the loaded white one at last week and they had just got a big batch of new Toyotas and Scions - including a white/auto tC! WOOHOO lucky me.
    I am adding: fog lights, rear lip spoiler, iPod radio, door sill plates, blue LED interior lighting, wheel locks, bumper protecter thingy... can't wait!
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,700
    cpngratulations! Post back here and let us know how you like it, OK? Have fun!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • tonylexustonylexus Posts: 94
    Nearly replaced the Bridgestones immediately on my tC based on all that I had read in/re their poor status. Decided to save the expense and get what I could out of them. Found the performance to be so-so but a little better than my very low expectations. A hole in the side wall at 23k miles (tread still looked deccent)provided the opportunity to switch to P Zero Nero's.

    Here again, expectations governed by what I had read were not quite met. The P's are louder than I expected, wet roads are marginaly better as far as I can tell as of yet, no snow experience yet, but I can say there is a huge difference in handling (for the better) and at a much lower cost.

    Hoping that the tread wear is satisfactory, time will tell. All things considered, the Zero's are the far better choice - better performance (how much is subjective) at a more reasonable cost.
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