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2008 Toyota Highlander



  • nimrod99nimrod99 Posts: 343
    "Well, they weren't until NipponDenso went on an acquisition binge and now dominate the US market for automatic climate control designs. Prior to Denso US coming "about", automatic climate control systems in US made cars were just as sensibly designed, WELL designed, as their european counterparts"

    In the 1990's I looked at the Ford Explorer (also other US vehicles such as GM etc).
    I will say the climate control in US vehicles is RETARDED.
    I drove several Ford's in the UK. It had a separate AC switch and recirc switch.
    Ford US, did not have that. The climate control "knob" had the following settings "Max AC" (which I presume included recirc). AC (no recirc), Panel, Floor, and Floor/defrost.
    Ford Focus and Ford Escort were originally designed in Europe and when they came across the pond, they get dumbed down, and all styling features removed

    So there was no ability for the user to select AC or recirc independently.

    My Toyota Supra (1987 model) had auto climate control with user selectable AC and recirc.

    And as for your political reference in your last post, you need to get over it.
  • toyseekertoyseeker Posts: 81
    Does the caller ID on your mobile phone match the number on the display of the HL?

    If the person is calling from an 'extension', chances are the caller ID (on the mobile phone) will not handle the 'extension' properly.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "I will say the climate control in US vehicles is RETARDED."

    Basically I cannot disagree, except for the need to point out that our current US designs are RETARDED as a result of being overwhelmed by the horribly FLAWED automatic climate control designed inported from Japan by NipponDenso/Denso US.

    First, you seem to be referring, in the RETARDED context, to the US product back in the last century, the 1990's. And yes, other than the upscale luxury brands US passenger vehicles did not have anything close to an automatic climate control system.

    But competition for sales and mass production of the high technology componentry required to implement the "less than 5 years" models with automatic climate controls has worked its magic and now even the least expensive of US cars have automatic climate control, or at least available as an option.

    But you may take note that the designers of these NEW systems are just now beginning to realize that allowing independent control of A/C and recirc/fresh mode was ONE SERIOUS mistake. You can manually put your system in recirc if you wish, but without the A/C in operation it will switch back into "fresh" mode within minutes. While it isn't really reasonable to do this in warmer climates that remains, seemingly, something that the Denso design engineers have yet to learn.


    My new 1992 LS400's automatic climate control system's base NipponDenso design was so flawed it was not SAFE to drive the car in certain common wintertime conditions/climates. After the first few inadvertent, unpredictable, and thereby unavoidable HAZARDOUS driving instances I parked the car for the "duration". Absent doing the required modifications myself, having the ability to do the modifications that car would likely still be a garage queen.

    Now here we are in 2008 and almost every one of the modifications I came up with by 1994 for my LS400 have now been incorporated, either embedded or as a c-best option, in the newer NipponDenso/Denso US automatic climate control designs.

    But still, certain aspects of the automatic climate control in my 2001 Porsche 911, and therefore likely ALL (Bosch) european designs, still make the NipponDenso/Denso US designs seem RETARDED in comparison.
  • su922su922 Posts: 9
    Good point - there are plenty in our neighborhood, but we keep the car garaged all the time so that's not it.

    Perhaps we should get in the habit of turning off the a/c before turning off the car. It's worth a try to see if it makes a difference.
  • canuck17canuck17 Posts: 28
    Further to my original post and this post I just a call from the service manager at the Toyota Dealership where I purchased my 2008 HL Ltd. and he told me that he called a number of dealerships across Canada. Two other dealerships had the same problem of the alarm going off for no apparent reason and it was traced to the electronic hood sensor. Once replaced it solved the problem. The dealership is replacing the sensor on my vehicle tomorrow and I will see if it solves the problem.

  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    For info on turning off the A/C before turning off the ignition read the material at about their EED, Electronic Evaporator Dryer. It takes up to an hour for the temperature on the surface of the evaporator to rise from <34F to the point that condensate previously "gathered" will begin to evaporate.

    And the odor you get from the resulting formation of mould and mildew spores is more like "dirty gym socks" than the odor you describe.

    And you might be surprised at just how creative an un-neutered tom cat can be at getting into a supposedly closed garage, especially if you happen to own a female cat, even a neutered one..

    From personal experience I have learned to NEVER leave the garage door open during the day or times when I'm working outside and going back and forth for tools, etc. We have a female cat, neutered, and our neighbor has a neutered male cat who apparently isn't aware that she, and he, have both been fixed. I have discovered him in our garage the next morning after apparently inadvertently trapping him in the garage the previous day/evening.

    Have to find some birdshot for my 22.
  • cdalseidecdalseide Posts: 1
    Off topic, but I am trying to decide between the Pilot and 2008 Highlander. From what I read the average Pilot MPG is in the 17-19 range. How is the real life MPG on the Highlander?
  • texasestexases Posts: 5,511
    From what I've read, they're very similar in mileage (similar weight and power, engine technology). Biggest difference seems to be the ride: Highlander quieter, more isolated, smoother, Pilot more road feel, but more road noise. You'll need to drive both, some strongly prefer one over the other.
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    My mpg has been very good on the Highlander. I average 17-19 in town. Going on a trip in July...anxious to see the highway miles.
    I am very happy with the Highlander, and I think you would enjoy it more than the Pilot. IMO, the Highlander is alot better looking, and it has a much more smooth and quiet ride. I have the Blizzard Pearl exterior paint, and it is very good looking all shined up.
    Some friends I have own both, and they much prefer the Highlander over the Pilot for the better ride. Their gas is about the same. He is tall, and the Highlander is also a better fit. He often complains about the road noise with the Pilot, but the wife gets the Highlander most of the time! They have kids, and he is a Doctor, so they have to have two SUV's for winter driving. They take the Highlander on trips, and they have gotten around 28 on the highway at times.
    They are both very high rated SUV's, so a matter of choice is up to you.
    Good luck with your decision!
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,010
    If you are an owner of an 08, please visit the Toyota Highlander Real World MPG discussion and add your experiences to the numbers. Thanks!

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  • miacar07miacar07 Posts: 28
    yes, that's the problem i have sometimes, that the number on my mobile doesn't match the number on the display. For example, my wife called me the other day from her cell phone and the number on the display was a totally different number.

    It seems that the number that appears on the display is from the previous call i made or a previous call that came in. do you know if anyone has experienced this before and what can be done to correct it?
  • thardgravethardgrave Posts: 57
    I would agree with the other comments......the major plus for the Pilot would likely be its better 3rd row seat....if that is important to wasn't for me, as we will only use that once in a while, and the rest of the car is almost perfect for many of us....I would sure drive both, as your own impressions are what is important......but I have no regrets at all with mine, and would buy it again in a heartbeat.
  • tarugstarugs Posts: 16
    I have a 2008 2wd limited, and I also have the wind noise/whistle on the driver side window. I hear it when driving around 40 - 50 mph. Any updates on similar experience?
  • ronnronn Posts: 398
    My whistle was on the passenger side, and came from the passenger side mirror.
  • david140david140 Posts: 3
    Does anyone know if a child seat go in the middle of the 2nd row? It doesn't seem like it would be a great fit. If not, would deleting the 3rd row also make the 2nd row a more traditional bench seat?
  • hodog16hodog16 Posts: 53
    Had some free time so test drove the Highlander again, this time it was a Limited with power rear door, moonroof, and JBL. The car was blizzard pearl which is a nice color, but I don't want white, especially not if it costs $220 extra.

    Missed the nav from my first test drive, but the smart key and push button start are pretty cool. I agree the wood trim is an eye sore.

    Drove really well. With superficial discussion on price, they were offering 2% over invoice. If I really get serious I'd hope to get a better deal than that if possible.

    I think I've got it down to the Highlander or the 2008 Pilot. It's a question of whether it's worth $6,000 or so to get a new design or one that's 6 years old with comparable options between the two (moonroof, nav, etc). I liked both, hopefully the wife will decide for me after she drives both ;) .
  • jgantjgant Posts: 10
    I just bought a 2008 Highlander, Limited. Great vehicle, we love it. However, I'm a bit Techno challenged in trying to get my Bluetooth operational. In following the manuals, I have successfully entered about 25 phone numbers to my phone book. However, when try to use my voice commands, it won't work and it's telling me that the entries need to be "Voice Tagged". Anyone know the easy way to do that? Additionally, until I get them Voice Tagged can the phone book be used to make calls while on the move? If not, can calls be made while on the move (currently without the voice taggs)? Thanks for any assistance.
  • gdh3gdh3 Posts: 28
    Attention Blizzard Pearl Owners and fans. I have a white jeep that has tiny specks of rust showing up everywhere. If left alone the specks increase in size over time. A clay bar removes these with a lot of elbow grease. I was told that all cars get "rail rust" and it just so happens that white and silver cars show it the most.

    Have any Blizzard Pearl owners experienced this rust???????????
    Does anybody have any added insight into this?????????/

    Obviously I am considering blizzard pearl but have real concerns regarding the color choice as I keep my vehicles a long time.

    Thank you in advance for your helpful responses.
  • jpagsjpags Posts: 1
    I'm wondering the same exact thing! The manual shows the front and rear floor jack positions, but there is no mention of jack stand placement. Anyone out there with a 2008 Highlander Shop Manual that can shed some light on this?

  • texasestexases Posts: 5,511
    Having seen many white cars, I've never heard of 'rail rust' as a constant problem on any car, regardless of color. You're saying the hood, for example, will develop these 'tiny specks of rust'? To me, an obvious flaw in paint application. 'All cars' definitely do not get this!
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