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Nissan Maxima: Stolen Headlights!!

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  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,209
    First it was cats and now razor blades? What about the poor mechanic who drops a socket while messing with the <air filter> and gets cut up good fishing it out? I really don't think trying to main others is going to solve the headlights problem. Not to mention the questionable legality of boobie-trapping your car.

    And posting names and emails on the board is likely to just generate a bunch of spam in your in box.

    I suggest checking your insurance coverage and then talking to your local Nissan service manager and Nissan customer service as something constructive you can do.

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  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    All i was saying is i have heard of people doing that with radios. Plus usually if you drop a socket it goes straight thru to the floor which is more annoying (former auto body technican). Just wondering if putting fear into a few of these theifs about getting injured might make them think twice about stealing headlights.
  • I feel everyone who has had this problem needs to come together and make Nissan do something about it. Nissan is making alot of money off our headlights being stolen. Nissan has claimed they are very well aware of the problem, but have no solution. For $30,000 they should have a better answer.
  • steve, host, writes:
    First it was cats and now razor blades? What about the poor mechanic who drops a socket while messing with the <air filter> and gets cut up good fishing it out? I really don't think trying to main others is going to solve the headlights problem. Not to mention the questionable legality of boobie-trapping your car.

    Gee... and I was going to suggest rigging up some shotgun shells.... ;-)
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,209
    Yeah, but you guys do that live free or I'm gonna blow you away stuff up in NH. Aunti Maim indeed, LOL.

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  • bigfurbigfur Posts: 649
    Some people have no sense of humor lol. I agree with most everyone here that nissian NEEDS to do something about this problem. It is also very obvious that they are not doing anything about it, so why not try alternative theft deterants that are less humor and more serious?
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    Yeah, Nissan should give at least one free set of HIDs to all 02-03 Max owners when the HIDs are stolen. At a minimum, Nissan should give one free set of 01 headlights to those who want to put away their HIDs in order to "ride out" this theft wave.

    If Nissan wants future business from current Max owners, it better do something NOW or we will shop another brand when it comes time to replace our cars next time.

    Well, come to think about it, Nissan is like SONY and MicroSoft with their game consoles. They make the purchase price for the consoles very attractive, but they get you on the expensive games if you want to play. Nissan put the badly designed HIDs on the Max, but is making heaps of money on the replacement HIDs. What a SCAM!
  • alexg4alexg4 Posts: 14
    Apologies to those who have been trying to contact me.

    There are really not many details... After my lights were stolen, I went to the dealership and told them to replace them with 01 model lights. They had no problems with that.

    They charged around 1,500 including the 01 lights, but I hear of people getting that done for about 1,200.

    If your dealer tells it can't be done, he is either a liar or doesn't know his job. My lights were installed without any damages to the car's wiring.

    The fit is slightly off, the 01 lights are about one inch shorter in height, but that was fixed by putting a rubber beneath it.

    Good luck.
  • hrvathrvat Posts: 18
    It's nice to have a forum like this to vent and find out that others are sharing the same frustration I am.

    It happened to me at Giants Stadium 2 weeks ago. Another Maxima was parked 4 spots away and the same thing happened to him. Ironically, the guy had just picked up his car from the shop the same day for the same reason.

    I am picking my car up today after 2 weeks in the shop. Considering the aggravation and $500 deductible, saying that purchasing my 2002 SE was a huge mistake would be an understatement.

    In my case, they dented the hood and popped open the grill, to disconect the alarm and to swipe the headlights. The first time they stole the other guy's headlights they were able to do it with no other damage to the vehicle. Total cost to repair my vehicle is $3,500.

    I understand there is pending legislation to make it illegal to have HID lights if the original model did not have one to combat this problem. However, I don't know how much this will help.

    Although it's a quality car and fun to drive, I believe anyone who would still purchase it is insane. Nissan has made a remarkable comeback, but I think it has also written it's own obituary with this problem.
  • Happened to me too for the second time. Well this is the toll we all have to pay. Anyway, I think we should all form a group and appeal to Nissan to
    a. Cover our losses -
    b. Design new metal case for lights (Plastic casing is broken as they steal the lights) and recall the model.
    This time I am researching as to where to get the lights fixed with 2001 model. Once done I will share the method adopted and the place where I got it done
    I am in NJ
  • I had my 2003 HID's replaced with 2001 Anniversary Edition lights. Email me if you want contacts. I know of one place in Newark, and two in Queens that can do it.
    They look fine, only a quarter inch gap on the bottom. Cost was less than mentioned above.

    Where is the class action suit against Nissan?
  • timadamstimadams Posts: 294
    I own a 2002 Nissan Maxima with HID lights. And I really do empathize with those of you who've had your lights stolen. But your rage should be directed at the thieves, not at Nissan! I know it's a pain to have to protect property that you paid for with hard-earned money, but why blame the manufacturer rather than the crooks? I can even understand being ticked off at people who buy the HIDs on ebay, as they should know that there is a good chance they are stolen property.

    Convince me why Nissan shoulders the blame for some scuzzball (polite family board) stealing your headlights. Yes, they could step forward and do something for its PR value and to please customers, but I don't see that they have the duty to do so, or that there is merit to a lawsuit.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,006
    First, I don't have a Nissan, so I'm not directly involved with the "problem". What I do know is most new cars are a PITA to work on to fix most anything. Changing the bulbs in my car involve opening the hood, and figuring out how to get my hand between the battery or other wires or plumbing to get to a coller and unscrew it to then get to the clip holding the bulb. In Nissan's case, they made changing the headlights a simple task, and are now being raked over the coals for simplifying the process. I just can't buy into the posts saying they did it to make more money selling replacements. Get real folks. My $.02 worth.
  • mjc8mjc8 Posts: 1
    I am looking at the 2004 Maxima. Can anyone tell me if the HIDs are stolen out of the 2004 too?
  • I just had my headlights stolen last night. Nissan should give a free set of headlights or pay the insurance deductible for the first time it happens. By the way tmart the people caused me over 3,000 in damages for the simple task of unscrewing of a light bulb. Nissan is making the new headlights with vin#'s to track them, Everyone will be getting a letter in the mail. Class Action anyone?
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,006
    While I'm sorry for your lost, I still don't see how it is Nissan's fault your lights were stolen. If your alloy rims and tires are stolen, is it also Nissan's fault?
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Posts: 872
    Has anyone thought about changing out the factory screws to a security type screws. These screws have a torx or hex type with a pin in the middle so you will need a special driver to tighten/loosen the screws. All you need to do is measure the screw for the size and thread pitch.

    Check here and see if they can help, maybe you can remove one of the screws and mail it to them and see if they have a screw that will replace the originals.

    http://www.aaronssecurityscrews.com/

    This might not keep them from doing body damage to the car but it will probably make it so they can't get the lights out. Who know they might just smash them out to spite you making it so they can't steal them. It's strange how a thief gets mad when you take steps to keep what you paid for.
  • gg2k2segg2k2se Posts: 109
    I just got my letter. Nissan will install "new securing devices" and new "identification technology" for free on HID's in NY, NJ, CT, MA, RI. Check your mail. Sounds like they listened (or feared lawsuits).
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    Now that laws have been passed making installation of HIDs by anyone other than the factory illegal, perhaps this problem will slowly go away?
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,006
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,209
    There's some headlight regulation stuff at the NHTSA and some recent enforcement action taken against resellers in the US (esp. those advertising "for off-road use only"). I don't think it involves HID though; more the blue light specials?

    I lost my link a while back; maybe someone has been following this issue?

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  • lbglbg Posts: 2
    Attention all Maxima owners, especially those with 2002 and 2003 models whose headlights have been stolen. I am organizing everyone to hold Nissan responsible and get them to do something about the epidemic of headlight thefts.

    My lights have been stolen 3 times in a matter of months!!! At this point, I can't park my car in the street. I've already solicited professional help and our chances look promising.

    To join me and get something done, email me as soon as possible.
  • lbglbg Posts: 2
    By the way, there are NHTSA regulations concerning a car manufacturer's obligations with respect to theft protection.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,209
    No one can email you because your email isn't public in your profile.

    And if you're soliciting others for a suit or something, well, soliciting is against the rules here. See the Member Agreement linked on the left.

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  • I'm concerned!!! I have a 2004 Maxima SE, are the headlights here prone to be stolen too? Or just there aren't enough of the '04 around to have a statistic yet. Will it be a problem in mid 2004.
  • pathstar1pathstar1 Posts: 1,015
    Have been shut down by the new regs. and enforcement. I know because on the RX-7 Forum many "enthusiasts" are mad they can't get them any more. They were being sold as an electronic ballast and H4 shaped HID bulb, to fit in a standard headlamp. A very bad idea, as the light emitting area is the wrong shape so the reflector design would be wrong. Good way to blind other drivers! They would also not have auto-leveling.

    Still not sure where the stolen headlamp assys. would be going. Perhaps other countries where they are not available yet?
  • You can't blame Nissan for your HID thefts. Take some responsibility yourself. Don&#146;t park your car in an area where your headlights (or anything else) will get stolen. I can&#146;t believe the posts where folks are complaining that their HIDs have been stolen multiple times! It seems like this is a regional thing… in the northeast mainly. Car stereos are stolen more often throughout the entire country but I don&#146;t hear folks wanting Pioneer or Sony or others to be responsible for those thefts.
  • tmarttmart Spring, TXPosts: 1,006
    While I'm sorry for your loss/losses, just can't see how Nissan is responsible for ANYTHING being stolen off YOUR car. Once driven off the dealer's lot, unless it's covered by the waranty, it's YOUR problen. I, too, wonder where they go. Kinda like if a low life breaks your window and takes your radar detector. It sure isn't Cobra's, Valentine's, etc.'s fault the unit was stolen. Granted, it may not be your fault either, but that's why you have, or should have, insurance. Hmmmm, maybe it's an insurance conspiracy to raise the rates of Nissan owners.
  • I have not received any letter yet for the "new securing devices" and new "identification technology" you are talking about. Do you have to call up Nissan people to get it for yourself or are they sending it to every nissan buyer in North-East area?
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    Clearly, Nissan did not steal the HIDs; it is those low life scum of the earth thieves. However, Nissan may be deemed an "accessory to the crime" because of the faulty HID design, which makes them easy targets for thefts. All told, it takes less than 2 minutes for an 02-03 Max owner to lose his $2k HIDs, plus $2 to $3k for fixing collateral damages to the car hood and fender etc. Even a moronic thief with little or no education knows it is better and easier to steal the expensive HIDs than to jack the build-in car stereos :-)

    Having said that, however, I believe Nissan is at least trying to remedy the defective design by offering Max owners, for free, the option of installing theft deterrent metal brackets and tagged HIDs (with veh. VIN) to make them harder to sell and pawn off by crooks.

    Although the law is that the offering of remedial measures cannot be construed as evidence of prior defective design, it is some indication that Nissan is now acknowledging the problem and is trying to do something about it. This is the right move because Nissan does not want to face potential lawsuits (whether they are with or without merit), and by offering the free fixes, hopes to pacify the irate Max owners and retain them as future Nissan buyers.

    Just my two cents; I may be completely off the wall with my comments and observations. Since this is a public forum, everyone is free to express his or her opinion, as long as it is done civilly and in good taste.
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