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Toyota to add more hybrids.....

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    in the latest issue of MT, they state that Toyota is thinking of bringing out a hybrid Tundra for the '05 model year, when they bring out the next gen of that model. Imagine a full-size pick-up with a 10K-pound towing capacity and fuel economy in the mid-20s (or possibly even more around town)!

    This would finally be an application that caters to the hybrids' strengths: diesel-like torque at low speeds.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Apparently GM just developed prototypes for in-wheel motors. The tech is experimental, but if they can get it off the ground and made cheaply, they might be able to give Toyota a run for their money.
  • john1701ajohn1701a Posts: 1,897
    Toyota already has a type of in-wheel electric motor. It's used in their hybrid minivan, the Estima (available only in Japan). That's how they make it 4-wheel-drive.

    JOHN
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    of the in-wheel electrics has GM wavering on whether it wants to pursue the program, doesn't it? With all the plan-changing GM has done on hybrids, I am very curious to see what their first hybrid model looks like that actually makes it to showrooms...

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • daysailerdaysailer Posts: 711
    would do to unsprung mass, and consequently to handling, is disturbing.
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    John - Sorry, I thought the Estima used additional motors, connected through a half shaft, which is not the same as an in-wheel design. The source describing GM's efforts makes it "seem" like they have something original.

    http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0308/12/b02-242629.htm

    Daysailer - Prototypes and expected uses appear to be truck-baised, not sport cars. Handling is a lesser issue when compared with the supposed benefits of the design.
  • daysailerdaysailer Posts: 711
    class of vehicles even worse, does not give me warm fuzzies either!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    already so heavy, and motors in the wheels would lower the center of gravity! :-P

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Giving trucks wheel independent AWD would also improve handling. The affect would be similar to having AWD and a LSD directing the power. And while the motors may add to the unsprung weight, they would probably be lighter (overall) than adding motors and driveshafts.
  • http://www.lexus.com/about/hybrid/
    The video is where all the information is hiding...
    The Lexus RX400H looks like a rebadged RX330 (small SUV/CUV).
    Uses the new Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive, as seen
    in the new 2004 Prius.

    I believe that the RX330 is the "luxury cousin" of
    the Toyota Highlander, so it would make sense to
    see a hybrid Highlander around the same time as the
    RX400H.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,806
    City of Aspen has just voted to give any hybrid vehicle free parking and $100 refund on registration. At $1.00 an hour, the parking perq is a pretty good one. I figure to the average citizen the deal is worth maybe $700 a year. Over the course of the vehicle's lifetime (let's say 9 years) that's a pretty good incentive don't you think?

    IF this were offered in your town (and if it made some sense where you live to have free parking), would such an incentive possibly tip you over into buying a hybrid?

    MODERATOR

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,663
    It's an excellent incentive.

    Bob
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,687
    that would probably tip me toward a hybrid...:-)

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    I wonder if there's a dual motive in that incentive. Free parking would also increase foot traffic and bolster sidewalk businesses, like cafes and retail.
  • http://www.msnbc.com/news/958087.asp?0cv=CB20

    Toyota's increase in sales is going to continue to grow if it can get hybrid technology into mainstream models ahead of the Big 2.5.
  • I live in the Boston area where parking spaces are at a premium,so parking for long periods of time actually decreases foot traffic. Thus we have 2 hour parking limits, and $50 fines. Ironic, as cities are the place where hybrids are most beneficial.
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